novaveritas
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nCov is way better. Pangolins Revenge even more so. Friends in china call it WuFlu.
Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)
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nCov is way better. Pangolins Revenge even more so. Friends in china call it WuFlu.
Blowmonkey
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^ I was gonna post an article I saw yesterday about the laboratory being not 30km away from that fishmarket, but a few blocks, but I can't find it anymore, page doesn't exist. Very suspicious. 
I'll post this instead.
sg.news.yahoo.com
Somehow this article hits me the most, lol:
www.theguardian.com
God is angry at China:
I'll post this instead.
Coronavirus up to 20 times more likely than Sars to bind to human cells, study suggests
The deadly new coronavirus is up to 20 times more likely to bind to human cell receptors and cause infection than severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars), a new study by researchers at the University of Texas at Austin has found.The novel coronavirus and Sars share the same functional host-cell...
Somehow this article hits me the most, lol:
Wuhan's cat rescuer: the man saving pets abandoned during coronavirus outbreak – video
Ye Jialin has been looking after the pets of residents who are unable to return home
www.theguardian.com
God is angry at China:
Blowmonkey
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I saw some of that and it's being denied by the locals that they eat bats and pangolins, but fear of the government and paid shills maybe influenced those reportings as well. If it's not true it only leads credence to the virus being laboratory grown and escaped too, sure advances in technology have accelerated immensely, but a genomic sequence and vaccine against ebola took years, this one was identified and almost released to the scientific community after nearly a month, wtf? The reporting a few days ago about the "fake news" going around about it not escaping from those nearby labs was pretty, coincidental? Or orchestrated.
They most definitely eat dogs and cats, the japanese eat everything too, can't tell me those bat soup pictures aren't real either, lol, BUSHMEAT. Corona, don't cough a friend, it's dangerous. They should make a corona awareness song too, I loved the ebola one.
They most definitely eat dogs and cats, the japanese eat everything too, can't tell me those bat soup pictures aren't real either, lol, BUSHMEAT. Corona, don't cough a friend, it's dangerous. They should make a corona awareness song too, I loved the ebola one.
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Yeah this is suss.
I've read that patient zero was elsewhere and the virus was brought into the wet market where it was then taken outside and spread. The proximity to that lab is a little too coincidental. There could be a few explanations: It may have been leaked accidentally, may have been an attack from a foreign state, or it could've actually originated from diseased animals and lack of hygiene. Another theory is that it was from outer space. Cometary bombardments carrying alien viruses may have led to pandemics in the past.
Or another more concerning theory is that there is indeed some serious imminent global food shortages due to the Grand Solar Minimum causing shortened growing seasons. If this is true then the global food system is on the verge of some serious changes. What hasn't been widely reported is that African Swine Flu has recently caused China to destroy 50-70% of their pig population causing pork to skyrocket in price and cause shortages. With Chinese New Year coming up this was seriously angering the people and causing unrest. Coincidentally after Corona this has now become a non-issue and people are skeptical of meat (the official story). There were also serious anti-CCP protests in Hong Kong and now nobody wants to get close to one another or congregate. So maybe this was a bio-attack against their own people. It could also have been part of a test of their capabilities. They've just locked down cities with tens of millions of people and some of the footage being released from there is a bit disconcerting to say the least. Some are even suggesting that they're rounding up and imprisoning or executing political dissidents under the guise of containing the epidemic.
I lived there for a couple years and I'm surprised I never saw dog but I'm sure it was easily found down an alleyway. I was more worried about the pork being served on the street because I was told that it's often passed off as rat as it has a similar taste and texture. Then I found out about gutter oil and it was game over for me. Also roughly a third of the alcohol is fake.
At least the Japanese are super hygienic about it. They put dirty-assed Westerners to shame in that department. There's a very expensive members-only "restaurant" in Japan where you select an animal to have sex with before it's killed, cooked and served to you.
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OK I'm officially very concerned about this. It's not even just the virus, it's the subsequent quarantine of your area if you get cases. People are going mental. I recommend everyone stock up on some food and supplies just in case you get told to stay in your houses for a while. Then if that happens nobody in the area can work which will slow the local economy (already happening in China with effects felt elsewhere).
✿Dai₷y✿
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I was going to put this in the conspiracy theories thread so dunno if it's actually real possibility or not, who knows maybe the illegal live/wild meat seafood market was just a scapegoat and it's originated from a lab? That would explain the cover up and pretty much instant spread of this pathogen, it had to be introduced into the patient zeros at a high infection rate to begin spreading like that, or whatever.
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The article goes on a bit, an opinion piece that sounds like a panicky 10 year old, hence the doubt.
New York post, credibility unknown
Meh I should read the thread, been there done that
Hylight
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i am very concerned.
but on the other hand, this could be quite sad.
I guess it's not quite time to ' brace 'yet .
i hate this creepy stuff.
how horrible.
✿Dai₷y✿
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I was going to put this in the conspiracy theories thread so dunno if it's actually real possibility or not, who knows maybe the illegal live/wild meat seafood market was just a scapegoat and it's originated from a lab? That would explain the cover up and pretty much instant spread of this pathogen, it had to be introduced into the patient zeros at a high infection rate to begin spreading like that, or whatever.
said:
The article goes on a bit, an opinion piece that sounds like a panicky 10 year old, hence the doubt.
New York post, credibility unknown
novaveritas
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relax. It is the worlds worst bioweapon if it is indeed a bioweapon. Makes you wonder why the Chinese would develop a bioweapon that attacked chinese people (logically they wouldn't). much more likely it is a pangolin eater who went to the market and infected eveyone. There is fairly solid evidence that it was circulating pre live food market.
So far the containment strategies have caused more disruption than the virus itself. Rumor has it that if it is a bioweapon that escaped then it was developed in Canada and smuggled to Wuhan, hypothetically targeting asians would work for Canada as a weapon, apart from trashing the vancouver RE market, if this turns out true then Canada is dust.
There is increasingly solid evidence that in 80% of cases nCOV is asymptomatic, so you have just a 1 in 5 chance of even noticing you have the virus. The numbers of offically infected people is limited by the testing ability, so assume that a lot more people have been infected which makes the absolute mortality much lower than it appears.
The Chinese are trying to track down people who have bought anti fever medicines, if this disease was serious in all cases they wouldn't need to hunt down people who were self treating and quarantine them, they would turn up in hospital of their own accord.
So far the containment strategies have caused more disruption than the virus itself. Rumor has it that if it is a bioweapon that escaped then it was developed in Canada and smuggled to Wuhan, hypothetically targeting asians would work for Canada as a weapon, apart from trashing the vancouver RE market, if this turns out true then Canada is dust.
There is increasingly solid evidence that in 80% of cases nCOV is asymptomatic, so you have just a 1 in 5 chance of even noticing you have the virus. The numbers of offically infected people is limited by the testing ability, so assume that a lot more people have been infected which makes the absolute mortality much lower than it appears.
The Chinese are trying to track down people who have bought anti fever medicines, if this disease was serious in all cases they wouldn't need to hunt down people who were self treating and quarantine them, they would turn up in hospital of their own accord.
The fatality rate is abnormally high in Iran: 8 deaths out of 43 cases. Makes you wonder if a lot more people there have it and they just don't have much testing capacity.
mr peabody
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Workers wearing protective gear spray disinfectant as a precaution in a market in Daegu, South Korea.
World is approaching coronavirus tipping point, experts say
Angela Giuffrida, Patrick Wintour, Sam Jones | The Guardian | 23 Feb 2020
78,000 cases confirmed, as Italy and Iran scramble to contain major outbreaks.
The world is fast approaching a tipping point in the spread of the coronavirus, according to experts, who warn that the disease is outpacing efforts to contain it, after major outbreaks forced Italy and Iran to introduce stringent internal travel restrictions and South Korea’s president placed the country on red alert.
Some of the countries most affected by the virus are scrambling to halt its progress two days after Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director general of the World Health Organization (WHO), said the international community needed to act quickly before the narrowing “window of opportunity” closed completely.
With almost 78,000 cases of Covid-19 now confirmed across the globe, experts say the situation will soon reach a critical threshold.
In 11 north Italian towns, 50,000 people have been in lockdown since Friday night, with police patrolling the streets and fines imposed on anyone caught entering or leaving outbreak areas. In Iran, the authorities have ordered the closure of schools, universities and other educational centres in 14 provinces as “a preventative measure.”
On Sunday, South Korea’s president, Moon Jae-in, placed the country on “red alert” after it reported its sixth death and more than600 infections.
Four of the 32 British and Irish Diamond Princess cruise ship passengers flown to the UK on Saturday have tested positive for Covid-19, the Chief Medical Officer for England said on Sunday. It brings the total number of confirmed cases in the UK to 13.
While the number of patients worldwide is increasing, some virus clusters have shown no obvious link to China, leaving experts struggling to determine where they started.
Paul Hunter, professor in medicine at the University of East Anglia and an authority on the new coronavirus infection, echoed Tedros’s warning and said the time for containing the disease was running out.
“The director general of the WHO has recently spoken of a narrowing of the window of opportunity to control the current epidemic,” he said. “The tipping point after which our ability to prevent a global pandemic ends seems a lot closer after the past 24 hours.”
A police officer and a masked reveller at the abandoned Venice carnival.
Hunter said that while cases were declining in China, where the outbreak began, the weekend had seen some “extremely concerning developments elsewhere.”
He said the surge in South Korean cases had been unprecedented so far in the epidemic, adding: “The identification of the large cluster of cases in Italy is a big worry for Europe and we can expect there to be quite a few more cases identified in the next few days.”
Hunter also said the situation in Iran could have major implications for the Middle East. “A further problem with the Iranian cases is wider armed conflicts in the region,” he said.
Dr Robin Thompson, junior research fellow in mathematical epidemiology at the University of Oxford, pointed out that case numbers in Italy had doubled between Friday and Saturday. “This is an important stage of the coronavirus outbreak,” he said. “Fast isolation of even mild cases in affected areas is important for preventing substantial person-to-person transmission in Europe. It is critical that public health guidelines are followed.”
Two people have died from the virus in Italy since Friday and more than a hundred cases have now been reported, most of them centred around the small town of Codogno, about 40 miles south-east of Milan.
Those living in the affected areas now face what the prime minister, Giuseppe Conte, said could be weeks of lockdown. The final two days of the Venice carnival were cancelled and Milan fashion week was also affected.
Iran has recorded eight deaths from the virus, the highest toll of any country outside China. The latest three deaths reported on Sunday were among 15 new confirmed cases, bringing the overall number of infections to 43. "Four new infections surfaced in the capital, Tehran, seven in the city of Qom, two in Gilan and one each in Markazi and Tonekabon," health ministry spokesman, Kianoush Jahanpour, said.
Pakistan responded by closing its land border with Iran, while Afghanistan said it was suspending travel to Iran “to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus and protect the public.” Turkey also closed its borders and said it would halt incoming flights, adding that all motorways and railways at the border would be shut on Sunday afternoon.
Jordan, meanwhile, will not allow entry to citizens of China, Iran and South Korea and other foreigners travelling from those countries in response to the deadly outbreak.
Announcing his decision to raise South Korea’s alert level on Sunday, Moon said "The government and the local authorities should not hesitate to take 'unprecedented, powerful' measures to contain the viral disease without being limited by 'regulations.'
As the country struggles to contain the outbreak, South Korea's president described the coming days as “a very important moment.” Of 123 new cases, 75 were related to the Shincheonji church in Daegu, the country’s fourth-largest city, and a neighbouring hospital.
The Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said they had placed more than 9,000 Shincheonji members in self-quarantine and thousands of worshippers had been screened for the virus.
The raising of the alert level came as a Japanese government minister apologised after a woman allowed to leave the coronavirus-hit cruise ship Diamond Princess on Wednesday tested positive for the infection on Saturday, raising more questions about the country’s management of the outbreak.
Warning that China’s virus epidemic was “still grim and complex,” the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, called on Sunday for more efforts to stop the outbreak, revive industry and prevent the disease from disrupting the spring planting of crops. Xi defended the ruling Communist party’s response as “timely and effective” in a video conference with officials in charge of anti-disease work, according to the Xinhua news agency.
“The current epidemic situation is still grim and complex,” Xinhua cited Xi as saying. “Prevention and control are at the most critical stage.”
World is approaching coronavirus tipping point, say experts
78,000 cases confirmed, as Italy and Iran scramble to contain major outbreaks
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mr peabody
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A day-by-day breakdown of coronavirus symptoms
by Aria Bendix | Business Insider | 22 Feb 2020
- The majority of cases of the new coronavirus are mild, but around 20% of patients have either severe cases of disease or become critically ill.
- A fever is the most common symptom.
Here's how the symptoms progress day by day among typical patients.
It starts with a fever. That's the most common symptom among patients who get the new coronavirus that has swept across China.
A recent study of nearly 140 patients at the Zhongnan Hospital of Wuhan University identified a typical pattern of symptoms associated with the virus, which causes a disease known as COVID-19. Around 99% of the patients developed a high temperature, while more than half experienced fatigue and a dry cough. About a third also experienced muscle pain and difficulty breathing.
Research from the Chinese Center for Disease Control suggests that around 80% of coronavirus cases are mild. Around 15% of patients have gotten severe cases, and 5% have become critically ill.
Here's how symptoms progress among typical patients:
Day 1: Patients run a fever. They may also experience fatigue, muscle pain, and a dry cough. A small minority of them may have had diarrhea or nausea one to two days before.
Day 5: Patients may have difficulty breathing — especially if they are older or have a preexisting health condition.
Day 7: This is how long it takes, on average, before patients are admitted to a hospital, according to the Wuhan University study.
Day 8: At this point, patients with severe cases (15%, according to the Chinese CDC) develop acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), an illness that occurs when fluid builds up the lungs. ARDS is often fatal.
Day 10: If patients have worsening symptoms, this is the time in the disease's progression when they're most likely to be admitted to the ICU. These patients probably have more abdominal pain and appetite loss than patients with milder cases. Only a small fraction die: The current fatality rate hovers around 2%.
Day 17: On average, people who recover from the virus are discharged from the hospital after two-and-a-half weeks.
However, the first symptoms might not come right after a person has been infected. Lauren Ancel Meyers, an epidemiologist at the University of Texas at Austin, told Business Insider that a typical patient may be infected without showing symptoms for five or more days.
Once symptoms do appear, they can be similar to pneumonia. But Paras Lakhani, a radiologist at Thomas Jefferson University, told Business Insider that the way COVID-19 can worsen over time distinguishes it from pneumonia.
"Pneumonia usually doesn't rapidly progress," Lakhani said. "Typically, most hospitals will treat with antibiotics and patients will stabilize and then start to get better."
Coronavirus patients, however, can get worse even after they receive treatment such as fluids or steroids. One case study found that three days after a 33-year-old woman started receiving treatment at a hospital in Lanzhou, her case was more pronounced than when she arrived.
In total, the new coronavirus has killed more than 2,200 people and infected more than 76,000. It originated in Wuhan, central China's most populous city, and has since spread to 29 other countries. The majority of cases are still located on the Chinese mainland.
A day-by-day breakdown of coronavirus symptoms shows how COVID-19 goes from bad to worse
The first symptom is typically a fever. By day five, the person may have difficulty breathing. By day 10, they might be admitted to the ICU.
www.businessinsider.com
Blowmonkey
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One blogger in particular was being reported on here last couple of weeks ago, this is his last known video:
Supposedly he's in "quarantine", for corona or dissent, whatever really.
lmao :D
Swine flu made me not able to smoke for over a week because my throat was coarse as sandpaper. Other than that it was just a regular flu, I sometimes oink now though.
✿Dai₷y✿
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Not all viruses and bacteria kept in these places are weapons, heaps of research labs have animals harboring these diseases living quite healthily. If it originated from a govt lab the loss of face would be unbearable to the chinese, it's bad enough as it is being seen as a animal from a market.
Chinese people really hate losing face to the world, that President will go spastic if it does.
Why did an ophthalmologist know about it to spread the word?
Meh.
Chinese people really hate losing face to the world, that President will go spastic if it does.
Why did an ophthalmologist know about it to spread the word?
Meh.
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