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Digestive symptoms prominent among COVID-19 patients

Wolters Kluwer Health | Neuroscience News | 18 Mar 2020

Digestive symptoms, such as diarrhea and anorexia, are common in COVID-19 patients. Almost 50% of coronavirus patients from the Hubei province of China presented digestive symptoms and cited them as their main symptoms.

The American Journal of Gastroenterology published today a new study that reveals digestive symptoms, including diarrhea, are common in COVID-19 patients. The study comes from the Wuhan Medical Treatment Expert Group for COVID-19 in China.

Nearly half of COVID-19 patients enrolled in the study conducted in the Hubei province of China presented digestive symptoms, such as diarrhea and anorexia, and cited it as their chief complaint. The study also reveals that patients with digestive symptoms had a longer gap between the onset of symptoms and hospital admission than patients presenting only respiratory symptoms and were less likely to be cured and discharged than those without digestive symptoms.

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Nearly half of COVID-19 patients enrolled in the study conducted in the Hubei province of China presented digestive symptoms, such as diarrhea and anorexia, and cited it as their chief complaint.

The authors said “the index of suspicion may need to be raised earlier in at-risk patients presenting with digestive symptoms rather than waiting for respiratory symptoms to emerge.”

 


Burr responds:



He wouldn't be the only one:



But it begs to understand if they are indeed making these 'insider trades' or if they are blind to them



Though, there are explanations (not my words, but another forum where someone was rebutting this):

Fund managers were already doing some selling based on coronavirus fears by Jan. 23rd, the day that Wuhan went into full lockdown and the whole city was quarantined. This was a dramatic and unprecedented event, and markets started reacting accordingly. That was a day before the Senate was given a briefing on it, and there's no proof they were told anything that wasn't already known and considered by the aforesaid fund managers.

Loeffler's fund managers, who trade the stocks owned by her and her husband, sold off less than $3 million in stock from their >$500 million portfolio. A drop in the bucket. Their portfolio is independently managed without their involvement, not because Loeffer is in the Senate but because her husband happens to be Jeffrey Sprecher, the Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange.

Hellooo? McFly??? You think Sprecher would risk a position like that, not to mention his wife's Senate seat, in order to avoid losing value on 00.06% of their holdings?? And, do you think the Chair of the NYSE would have anything other than the most insightful and experienced traders managing his personal investments?


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I loathe how many politicians go in normal and come out ultra-rich, regardless of political affiliation (NOTE: Both persons cited are Republicans). I wouldn't mind a freeze on their ability to trade or do similar things, even thru a '3rd party on their behalf' during their time in office. I'm fine with a full investigation, on any and all such politicians - so long as it is party-blind, and it results in some sort of regulation to prevent it.
 
I am so fed up with hearing the crap that comes out of Donalds mouth.

Ive never been part of the group that call him racist however I just saw a tweet then which changed my mind. Calling the Coronavirus 'The China Virus' is not funny and damn right childish.
It's not childish calling it the coronavirus got the Corona beer sales to go down it did come from China China is not a race of people and it's not racist.

Everyday I cannot wait until Donald Trump dies of China virus and they show his fat corpse on the television.

I'm already calling it he'll be just fine though.
 
Not sure if this belongs here or merits its own thread. I thought it was a good read:

The Geopolitics of American Fear

By Peter Zeihan

This coming week (March 23-28) the South Koreans will be in the fifth week of their epidemic. To be blunt it is what I’ve been waiting for.

The “typical” coronavirus experience for someone who requires hospitalization and survives is about 25 days end-to-end; five weeks is about what we need to get some good data.

Why the Koreans?

The South Koreans are technically minded, they have a top-notch health care system, they are culturally wired for quick responses, their first instinct isn’t to lie about everything, and they believe in math.

They will soon provide the world with the best and most holistic information about all aspects of the virus. If coronavirus had first erupted in South Korea, I have zero doubt it would have been contained, squashed, and we’d not be discussing it at all, much less living under self-imposed quarantine.

Until I have that information, however, I think our time is best served discussing the ongoing panic. In particular, the (I’m not sure this is quite the right word) positive aspects of the panic. There is more to American panic than toilet paper shortages.

The American geography is by far the best on the planet.

The Greater Midwest is the largest chunk of temperate zone, high-quality arable land in the world, and it is overlain by the world’s largest internal navigable waterway network.

Development and industrialization is the cheapest there of anywhere in the world.

Barren deserts, rugged mountains, dense forests, giant lakes and ocean moats make for a nigh invasion-proof homeland. For five generations the United States experienced greater development, rising standards of living, easy financial access, minimal health concerns, rising economic growth, all in an environment of almost perfect security.

This has many, many outcomes. Three are worth highlighting:

First, considering its riches, its low development costs and its security, the U.S. economy is geographically set up for massive success
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It isn’t about policy or governance or ideology. It is about place. That cannot be copied. The American system has exited every decade in a stronger position than it was in when it entered, including the decade periods of the Great Depression and Great Recession. It came thru the 1920s Spanish flu epidemic (a far more deadly pathogen than coronavirus) just fine. It will come through this one.

Second, the United States isn’t very good at national governance.

When geography takes care of all the big issues, there is little need for a large, overarching, competent, national government. And it shows.

The U.S. isn’t Germany or Korea, countries that live in geographic pressure cookers and so governance has to be top notch to ensure survival.

This isn’t Russia which is paranoid for good reason and so must excel at intelligence operations.

This isn’t Brazil where the terrain and climate are hostile to development and so excellence at infrastructure policy is essential.

America’s lack of federal competence means that when there is a crisis it all comes down to the personality, skill and contacts of the person at the top.

America’s initial reaction to the coronavirus isn’t its first failure of presidential leadership. But America’s sublime geography means the country will survive this failure to have others down the road.

Third, Americans are cocky. When your national founding myth is one of achievement with minimal adversity, it is eaaaaasy to become convinced you are the Chosen People and life is simply about navigating oneself from success to success.

Of course, I think we all realize this isn’t how things actually work. From time to time something or someone punches you in the face. And when that happens to Americans, we absolutely, positively, lose our ****.

Americans have no sense of proportion.

The same thing that gives us our can-do optimism and arrogance means that when we face unexpected challenge we fear the covenant with God has been broken and doom doesn’t so much beckon, but instead will crash down upon us presently.

And so we panic. We overreact.

But we overreact with the power of the world’s largest and most stable and most technologically advanced economy.

We overreact with the strength of a continent.

We overreact with the world’s most powerful long-range military, a military that absolutely controls all global waterways. And in doing so we reshape the world. Not on purpose, but simply as a side effect of our panic.

American history of all eras is rich with examples of such manic-depressive behavior. Some “recent” ones:

The Pearl Harbor panic fostered the deepwater dominance strategy, culminating in a Navy more powerful than all other players combined.

The Sputnik panic brought us a root-to-branch overhaul of the educational system and industrial plant.

The Vietnam depression married tech to military strategy and brought us JDAMs, cruise missiles, the Internet and cell phones.

The 1979 and 1983 oil shocks led directly to deepwater oil production and the shale revolution.

Our allies understand this. Winston Churchill famously noted that “Americans will always do the right thing, after exhausting all the alternatives.”

So do our rivals: a common Russian phrase during the Cold War was “Americans feel that if it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing.”

Americans have not felt a panic since the September 11 attacks.

It has been two decades since we were scared. We are due. I always assumed the next fear-response would be because of something that some dumbass country did to the United States, thinking the Americans were over the hill. Then the full force of the United States military and economy would crash down upon it and wipe it from memory.

Apparently, viruses can trigger America’s fear-response too.

In the past 96 hours the United States has gone from functionally zero actions against coronavirus to among the world’s most invasive.

And unlike other countries – China comes to mind – who have only instituted constraints on specific areas where there are known coronavirus outbreaks, the Americans have instituted their restrictions nationwide.

America now hosts the largest population in the world under lockdown.

The speed and depth of the change is something only Americans can culturally manage, and this is only the beginning.

The scale of resource application that is about to occur is nothing less than historically unprecedented, rivaled only by American actions in previous fear-response incidences.

The Federal Reserve’s new bond-buying program to support the markets? Its only analogue is what the same Federal Reserve did back during the 2008 Financial crisis, but this time it was done in a day instead of a month.

The industrial plant’s re-tooling to make medical supplies? Completely unprecedented…unless you compare it to America’s post-Sputnik industrial overhaul.

Want to see something really impressive? Watch the process for crafting, manufacturing and distributing the coronavirus vaccine. The US just started human trials on March 16.

That’s a solid two months faster than any such trials, ever. (And if that were not enough, in the heart of the crisis the US government is attempting to wholesale purchase the German firm furthest along in generating the German anti-coronavirus vaccine. Needless to say, in Germany this is perceived as a total dick move.)

Americans are capable of incredible ideological, economic, technological, logistical, military, and cultural leaps when the panic sets in. The coronavirus crisis is by no means anywhere close to being over, but the switch has been flipped. Now comes mobilization.

These are “merely” things the United States is doing at home.

With a few weeks (maybe days?) the Americans are going to do what they’ve done during every other fear-response. Apply (perhaps unfairly) that fear to all aspects of all of their international relationships.

The timing of this particular fear-response gives it far greater weight than those that have come before.

The global system as we know it – the system that has enabled everything from global manufactures trade to global energy trade to the existence of the European Union to the rise of China – is an American creation, designed for the Cold War.

That system was the payment to our allies to side with us against the Soviet Union.

That system ceased serving American strategic interests at the Cold War’s end, and in the days before coronavirus it was coming to an end.

Coronavirus has sped things up, severing most of the remaining ties that bind the world together.

No one else has the military capacity to ensure freedom of the seas, nor the demographic consumptive capacity to fuel global commerce. Since their economy is largely self-contained, the Americans really don’t care if the system collapses.

And that was before the coronavirus-induced fear response.

In this environment, other nations need to be extremely careful, lest they court American wrath.

America has a near-infinite capacity to act, a near-immunity to blowback, and a near-zero concern for consequences. It isn’t clear to me that there is yet recognition of this fact in the wider world.

Russia’s continual use of military aircraft to needle the North American air defense envelope during an American fear-response is monumentally stupid.

I lack the vocabulary to communicate how fantastically foolish it is for Chinese state media to spread conspiracy theories that the US Army originated coronavirus and dropped it into Wuhan.

Even Europeans whining that the Trump administration acted too hastily in enacting travel restrictions on flights between Europe and the United States wasn’t perhaps the right time to take issue with American policy.

Yes, all-in-all it has been a crappy couple of weeks, and we should just bake into our expectations that the next three months won’t be even remotely fun.

But honestly the real news is that we are now – right now – suspended in a deep-breath moment between eras of history, and the world’s only superpower is absolutely terrified.
 
I'm going to call it TRUMP VIRUS until it kills him.

Hopefully no one thinks I'm racist against pumpkins or raccoons who got caught in a tanning bed machine from Jersey for too long...

LOL NOW they're going to close down "non-essential border crossings"...

IMMEDIATE MUSLIM BAN but this took MONTHS?

Guys it is clear to me there is a vested interest to have allowed this to go pandemic. There was such a half-assed effort to shut down the borders over this.

"They're incompetent" so why did they do anything at all?

Everyone's going to get it. There's virtually no one who isn't in large cities. I don't know why they're even bothering shutting anything down at this rate. It's looking terrible.

WHY NOT MAKE US GO BACK TO WORK? That might be MORE EFFICIENT than MAKING US DO NOTHING at THE WRONG TIME, MONTHS INTO A PANDEMIC.

I hope Pelosi, Trump, Pence, and Cruz all fucking die of the Trump Virus.
 
With the childish China virus thing Trump is doing a move that Lynton Crossby calls putting your dick on the table, it distracts people it breaks the arguaments whilst everybody wastes energy being indignant about Trump being Raciss or what ever.

If people in the USA want to get back to the more normal cryptofacist oligarchy thay had before they need to engage with the rest of the world, this is not a zero sum game.

Rah rah amerika is such unhelpful bullshit. The military are ineffective against fear and insanity itself. America was already on thin ice as far as the rest of the world is concerned, don't jump up and down and break it.

TLB are you USA through and through? you leak Australian language hints? jus curious. I'm not American.
 
I'm going to call it TRUMP VIRUS until it kills him.

Lol...not the first I've heard of that reference.

LOL NOW they're going to close down "non-essential border crossings"...

IMMEDIATE MUSLIM BAN but this took MONTHS?

Guys it is clear to me there is a vested interest to have allowed this to go pandemic. There was such a half-assed effort to shut down the borders over this.

Intentional or not, it's going to change the entire world as we know it. There's the running line about 'never let a crisis go to waste', and while I think there is a part of that at play, there is also the fact that a world-wide shakeup like this WILL cause nations and people to reassess how things are being done. For example, American reliance on China for basic materials for making medicine? Yeah, that's coming back home. That is the simplest and most direct example.

At the same time, almost unnoticed, are other world events that should have some attention:

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Note the oil price war between Russia and KSA. Normally, that would seriously be messing with economies, but it's not getting a word. Meanwhile, all that environment destroying energy production (ie fracking) in the US has made us self reliant on energy for a long time. Rest of the world? 'Not our problem', watch and see.
 
But those are all names. Just as coronavirus is this ones name. If it was called "china virus" from the start I wouldnt have the slightest issue.

ALL of those listed have clinical names as well, just like COVID-19. However, they are 'known' by their origin names. Ftr, this was the 'Wuhan Flu' to start. Is that better?
 
Lol...not the first I've heard of that reference.



Intentional or not, it's going to change the entire world as we know it. There's the running line about 'never let a crisis go to waste', and while I think there is a part of that at play, there is also the fact that a world-wide shakeup like this WILL cause nations and people to reassess how things are being done. For example, American reliance on China for basic materials for making medicine? Yeah, that's coming back home. That is the simplest and most direct example.

At the same time, almost unnoticed, are other world events that should have some attention:

89783982_10101670421314224_1973804198571016192_o.jpg


Note the oil price war between Russia and KSA. Normally, that would seriously be messing with economies, but it's not getting a word. Meanwhile, all that environment destroying energy production (ie fracking) in the US has made us self reliant on energy for a long time. Rest of the world? 'Not our problem', watch and see.
And then people tell me that Trump had nothing to do with this this is going to get all of his wishes as going to shut down the borders is going to get our Reliance from China terminated...

Vengeance against China and Iran is alive and well.

And if Trump had nothing to do with this virus the rest of you all have to reconcile the fact that God granted Trump all of his wishes and the far left none of theirs suck on that everybody! Or like I have faith there is no god maybe that is how one may reconcile these facts.

Is no coincidence Newsom is off his rocker happy and always was going to shake Trump's hand for the photo op. California's governor needs to fucking die of this Trump virus as well.

Not my governor and not my president.
 
I'm not trying to be a bitch but what racism is is if I called it the Han Virus.

China is a location.
China is a location in which Chinese people are from yes. I know what you mean though.

Your really not a fan of China are you CH?
It certainly has many major things that bother me but I actually really like the country. I lived there for over a month and speak manadrin fluently 🙂
 
TLB are you USA through and through? you leak Australian language hints? jus curious. I'm not American.

American born and raised. Picked up non-American terms (no worries, no wuckas) and spelling (behaviour) from people I respect here on BL. I don't hate America, nor am I "rah-rah we are the BEST!!". In my view, we are unique in terms of resources and geopolitical isolation, which has bred a mindset of independence and strength while ignoring responsibility. We have flaws, but we have great potential as well.


As I pause for self-explanation, something's been bugging me that I want to revisit and clarify as well for anyone interested:

Btw what happened TLB? You used to share both liberal and right-wing memes. Now it's only real bad pro-Trump propaganda that relies on lies and such :/

My reply a few weeks back focused on why I post pro-Trump memes primarily. The point I wish to clarify isn't about memes, but my point of view = I'm not so much Pro-Trump as I am against progressive agendas and tactics. Conservative agendas align with my priorities and views for the most part, and I'll concede shite tactics are used by all involved. But my frequent posts supporting Trump are not so much for him, but his effort to implement conservative priorities and out of defense for what I feel is extended unfounded attacks. I'd be less against the progressives, if the attacks had merit or if they were ALSO accomplishing something (ANYTHING) for the American people for the past 3 yrs. I had little to no issue with Obama, fwiw, but I wasn't paying much attention then or earlier to politics. I have no love of our child President, but I can tolerate it if it achieves what I view as important. Mostly, I ignore the lips that are moving, and watch for what's really being done or not done and why.
 
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Digestive symptoms prominent among COVID-19 patients

Wolters Kluwer Health | Neuroscience News | 18 Mar 2020

Digestive symptoms, such as diarrhea and anorexia, are common in COVID-19 patients. Almost 50% of coronavirus patients from the Hubei province of China presented digestive symptoms and cited them as their main symptoms.

The American Journal of Gastroenterology published today a new study that reveals digestive symptoms, including diarrhea, are common in COVID-19 patients. The study comes from the Wuhan Medical Treatment Expert Group for COVID-19 in China.

Nearly half of COVID-19 patients enrolled in the study conducted in the Hubei province of China presented digestive symptoms, such as diarrhea and anorexia, and cited it as their chief complaint. The study also reveals that patients with digestive symptoms had a longer gap between the onset of symptoms and hospital admission than patients presenting only respiratory symptoms and were less likely to be cured and discharged than those without digestive symptoms.

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Nearly half of COVID-19 patients enrolled in the study conducted in the Hubei province of China presented digestive symptoms, such as diarrhea and anorexia, and cited it as their chief complaint.

The authors said “the index of suspicion may need to be raised earlier in at-risk patients presenting with digestive symptoms rather than waiting for respiratory symptoms to emerge.”


I can vouch for this. My guts were very unhappy for about 4-5 days, though not diarrhoea, more like they were suffering an acute inflammatory episode.
 
Regarding the naming of the virus:

Wired said:
Naming hasn’t gotten much easier. In 2015, after a few decades of what came to seem in hindsight like culturally insensitive missteps, the World Health Organization issued a policy statement on how to name emerging infectious diseases. Part of the point was to help scientists generate names before the public does it for them. So there are rules. The names have to be generic, based on science-y things like symptoms or severity—no more places (Spanish Flu), people (Creutzfeld-Jacob disease), or animals (bird flu). As Helen Branswell wrote in Stat in January, Hong Kong residents in 2003 hated the name SARS because they saw in the initialism a specific reference to their city’s status as a Special Administrative Region in China. And leaders of Saudi Arabia didn’t much like it when Dutch researchers called a coronavirus HCoV-KSA1 ten years later—that stands for Human Coronavirus, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Its eventual standardized name, Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome, still ended up sounding like it was blaming the entire region.

The result of all that rulemaking and political sensitivity is the anodyne Covid-19. “We had to find a name that did not refer to a geographical location, an animal, an individual or group of people, and which is also pronounceable and related to the disease,” said WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus at a press conference Tuesday. “It also gives us a standard format to use for any future coronavirus outbreaks.”
 
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