Opioids Out of ideas

[closeau]

I am currently on 40mg of methadone 10mgx4 a aday. Well, I've been trying to boost the methadone effects with no success. I guess methadone really doesn't work like that. I really like methadone. Not as high but it lasts a long time and helps my chronic pain. Im still in a lot of pain and cant get my dosage raised till April. So, I wanted to experiment. Here are the things I've tried in vareing order to dose;
600mg Tagament
! full glass of tonic water and white grapefruit juice
35mg of DXM
25mg Benadryl
Tums
Quercetin
Cats Claw
Among other things. Ive looked all over this site, and the whole web and these are the most prominent potentiators. Im also on Gabapentin 900mg a day and hydroxyzine 50-100mg a day. They are supposed to boost methadone too and nothing! I have a medium to medium low tolerance. I dont get it. My conclusion is, I'm just stuck with taking my methadone 40mg and bein happy. Unless some of you guys know a good, safe thing I've missed here. Thanks for ant suggestions!

 

[i are spectre]

wean down. taking 40mg a day will put you in a place most refer to as normal.

take as little methadone as possible for as long as possible. this is reducing your tolerance.

then take the methadone you have saved in such time... you'll probably find yourself high.

 

[Ohayou]

^I agree, there's not much else you can do as far as potentiation goes, and I would not respond to your inability to get high with the obvious "take more" solution. Ween down and let your tolerance go down for a while, then try again. You won't like where you end up if you try taking more and more and more.

Not to mention, you'll be able to save up a surplus of pills! This way, you will get to be higher for more time in the long run, it may be difficult at first but it really is a no brainer. ^_^

 

[debbbideb]

Milk Thistle works for me more then grapefruit or cats claw ever did.

 

[JustJ]

ashwagandha can help with anxiety and reduce tolerance if used regularly.
Nigella sativa is an opiate potentiator.
Kratom - particularly Bali - will help a lot with pain and WD's - and may even help you eventually get off completely.
Ayahuasca is a powerful experience that may help root out some of the underlying issues and help you walk away from the addiction.
You could also consider going for an underground Ibogaine therapy treatment which could get you permanent relief.

The worst thing you could do is steadily increase your mdone dose - that stuff is serious poison and takes weeks to months to get out of your system. The only alternative to it is suboxone but that one is just as hard to get off longterm, but with less damaging side effects.

I hope you find something that works for you.

 

[thelung]

If you must insist on enhancing your dose, use Clonidine, Promethazine, Hydroxyzine, Flexaril....tons of people at my clinic take these meds to getm ore out of their dose...

 

[thelung]

Luvox also raises your methadone level in your blood, its an SSRI used for OCD and its expensive...and if you don't have OCD don't plan on a script from your doctor. Promethazine, however, is very easy to get a prescription for. Just say you are very very nauseous and have been puking all night and they'll give you a script. they might ask what works best for nausea for you just tell them phenergan. its a common medication and its safe just don't take too many if you're on methadone it'll make you OD

 

[closeau]

Thanks for all the advice. I have heard of Promethazine. I do get nauseous a lot so that might be the one. I have raised my dose when I was on 20mg a day. I took mor and then ran out 3 days ahead of time. I've withdrew for terrible alcohol binges, MS Contin and oxycodone. None wew fun but that feeling I started to get that second day of no Done and I was feeling it strong. Couldnt sleep...the whole 9. Seems worse that anything else Ive withdrew from. Sure will not raise it again. Im happy right now at 40mg. Their spread out all day so I have continues pain relief. I'm still a 5 out of 10 on the pain scale but thats prettu good for me. I can tolerate 5, just not 8 and 0, like it sometimes is. I agree that methadone probably isnt good but thats all I'm getting prescribed by my Dr's now so I have to make the most out of it. Thanks again everyone!

 

[closeau]

How much Milk Thistle? Interesting. Thanks!

 

[Fire&Water]

C...When I was on methadone a couple years ago (was all I could afford for 3 mths.) I found a CWE on 4x 10mg. tabs then plugged worked better than 6 pills "chuted" & washed down. Go through the steps -dissolve powdered tabs in hot water (3 ml.)- stir for 30 seconds-chill in refer'- create a piece of coffee filter funnel over shotglass- filter for 30 minutes, in refer'-re-warm- pull into oral syringe w/ (the small vinyl tube attached)- lay on left side for 3-5 minutes. It's worth the effort

 

[closeau]

Hello. Well, I was bored today and have plenty of meds leftover from my experimental recipe. I decided to give it one more try. I took 600mg of Tagament with a HUGE glass of white grapefruit and tonic water 45 min before dose. 35 min before dose I took 30mg of DXM, 25mg of Benadryl, and 1 Alleve. 15 min before dosing I had 2 Tums the dosed 20mg methadone orally. Then, I had a couple of cups of hot tea. Wow!! Actually worked quite well which brought me to another point. I quit smoking cigarettes the other day. I heard that smoking will effect the absobtion of methadone. Must be true cause when I smoked last week and tried this recipe, I didnt feel it. Man, I sure did today. I dosed at 4pm eastern time and I'm still good. Lots more pain relief. I'm gonna try promethazine and see how that works. Just wanted to let yall know that the recipe is very legit. Later

 

[debbbideb]

I know it's not a miracle drug but I wonder what you guys mean when you say things like...damaging side effects and call methadone poison, others on BL have said things like...it will "turn on you"... maybe some experiences or details would help. About the Milk Thistle, I take 300mg with a very small breakfast (sometimes the invisible flavor) half hour before my dose. Only some days, when I don`t need to focus as much...

 

[Znegative]

I know it's not a miracle drug but I wonder what you guys mean when you say things like...damaging side effects and call methadone poison, others on BL have said things like...it will "turn on you"... maybe some experiences or details would help. About the Milk Thistle, I take 300mg with a very small breakfast (sometimes the invisible flavor) half hour before my dose. Only some days, when I don`t need to focus as much...

I honestly think that methadone gets a bad reputation. People see methadone patients, and immediately jump to the conclusion that the reason so many of them look like zombies, is because they're using methadone. What they don't take into account, is that many people that are on ORT, have poly-substance abuse problems, and are using pills and crack/speed alone with methadone. Even a lot of patients themselves, that I have known, decide to blame all their physical problems on methadone, most likely because they hear others saying the same thing. I imagine if buprenorphine was given out only through clinics, that people would say the same thing about suboxone.

And as for methadone "turning on you", it just seems like a stupid thing to say. Methadone maintenance is a commitment, and part of that commitment means that when you do decide to come off of it, that you will have to face withdrawals, which are often a lot longer than heroin, due to the long half life. But there's no easy way to get out of addiction, and I've met people that worked there methadone program well, and detoxed off it without relapsing.

 

[closeau]

Thanks debbideb for the milk thistle tip. I agree with you guys about methadone. When I got on it, I did a lot of research on it and got a lot of negative stuff about it. I know nothing og what its like to be in a matienence program but I'm sure its like anything else; if you work hard at it, you will succeed. I think if people do what their supposed to do with methadone, it can be helpful for addicts. I just got on methadone 3 months ago and will be on it a long time. My blood clots aint movin anytime soon. I will continue to have chronic pain indefinatly. I'm carefully experimenting with it now bbut that will eventually stop and I will just take it as described and I'll be fine. I love everything about methadone now. It's great for constant pain relief!!! Later

 

[debbbideb]

Thanks Zneg! thats what I think and closeau IO aswell think I am going to be on it for a long time and I`m happy thats an option for me.

 

[_Synapse]

Yeah methadone is not a bad drug or anything, it just takes one hell of a physical commitment. i am down to 70mg no started dropping from 110 right around new years. It's not bad so far, sometimes hard to tell because I like was stated in an earlier post I fall into a giant category for the clinic patients, and am a polydrug addict so I am coming up and down off other types of drugs all the time, particularly amphetamines...

the methadone comedown/taper does not seem bad so far, I can tell its beginning to get harder, but not really. I feel the dose more at 70 than 110, I get itchy and shit like I use to at the lower dose (not high), I think maybe i have begun to move down past the blocking dose? Is that anything to do with it?

but yeah not bad, If I can afford it once I hit 20mg I would like to swap to a partial agonist like suboxone. If I can.