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Ordering Scheduled RC's

Saucy

Saucy

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I am planning to refill my supply of 2C-I, 2C-C, and 2C-E soon, and I noticed that the manufacturer I order from is now offering 5-meo-dmt and 5-meo-dipt as well. I am admittedly very tempted to add a gram or so of each to my purchase, but I have never taken the risk of ordering a scheduled RC before and I wanted to get some input first.

How much riskier is it to order a scheduled chemical than one of its unscheduled analogs? If customs intercepts a package with 10+ grams of unscheduled 2C's, what is a likely response? How would this response change if the package contained one or more grams of a scheduled chemical in addition to the unscheduled analogs?

Thanks in advance for the input.

-Saucy
 
How much riskier is it to order a scheduled chemical than one of its unscheduled analogs?
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It is riskier because it is schedule 1. Completely illegal. No grey area.

If customs intercepts a package with 10+ grams of unscheduled 2C's, what is a likely response? How would this response change if the package contained one or more grams of a scheduled chemical in addition to the unscheduled analogs?
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if the amount of the legal 2c is small (10g being small in this case) it will probably be thrown out and you will receieve a love letter from customs.

if it is 10g of illegal RC's you can probably expect a visit.

if its some legal and some illegal that gets tricky.

I have been arrested before with both legal and illegal RC's. I didnt say what it was, they didnt go through the trouble of testing each and every vial, i just had to plea guilty to another charge and they left the rc's alone.

if your illegal item isnt labeled as what it actually is then they probably wont go through the trouble of finding out. If its labeled youll prob get in trouble.

all of this is conjecture. I dont know what customs will actually do. Just guessing off of what i heard and experienced.

Also lets not let this turn into source discussion.
Lets look at is a legal question.
 
If your package of unscheduled RC's is intercepted, chances are you'll just receive the customs "love letter".

Depending on how much of the scheduled RC's are found, you could either receieve just the love letter, or you could receive a knock of your door from LEO's.

As delsyd has said, it's very tricky.

Id email your vendor before hand to talk it out with them. Ask them what they plan on doing for sending their product. Ask them if they can take extra precautions to make your product safe as it's scheduled in your country. Ask them what their success rate of sending packages is. These questions should help you determine whether it's a good idea or not to even order the chems.

Also as delsyd has said, if you're only placing a 1 or 2 gram order of scheduled chems it might not be that much of an issue. Nine times out of ten when only one or two grams of a chem are bought they're sent in just a regulare envolpe which usually spends less time in customs.

If you plan on ordering scheduled chems, id order them seperate from your unscheduled ones. That way if the illegal one gets seized, you'll still have your legal chems.
 
I agree with Thizzer's advice to separate the orders, just in case.

I'm no lawyer / customs agent but my basic assumption: if they're not labeled explicitly it's probably not significantly more dangerous, at least for small orders and in terms of likelihood of getting 'caught'. In theory, if they did do the testing, they would at best have a weak analog act case hinging on proving intent to consume if they tried to charge you for the 'legal' stuff, whereas it would be quite easy to make charges stick on the illegal stuff as long as they could prove you intentionally ordered it. GC/MS is expensive, though, and they don't tend to do it unless they have good reason to (e.g., if they found an ounce of some unmarked white powder instead of just a gram or 2).

AFAIK, 5-meo-dmt is not yet scheduled. Erowid says they proposed adding it to Schedule I late last year but doesn't mention this being finalized, and Wikipedia lists it as unscheduled in the US.
 
Delsyd said:
5 meo dmt is not, but 5 meo dipt is.
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Wow, I'm not sure how I've managed to be a psychonaught this long without realizing that. Good to know though. Even if it doesn't make any sense. Then again, drug laws never make sense, do they?
 
^ there are many to check up on things like that. I wont post how as I know it's not allowed, but everyone should know it is possible to do such a thing.
 
If your vendor is a DEA sting I doubt they'd expose themselves over one gram of 5-meo-dipt. At any rate, let's keep the discussion in hypothetical legal territory regarding how customs would respond - your sources and their reliability/trustworthiness are your own business and not BL friendly topics. :)
 
solistus said:
At any rate, let's keep the discussion in hypothetical legal territory regarding how customs would respond - your sources and their reliability/trustworthiness are your own business and not BL friendly topics. :)
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^This

You don't know if your vendor is a DEA sting or if they are being watched
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I cant imagine why the DEA would be interested in ppl buying personal amounts of RC's
Theyd prob go for the vendor (as they have in the past)
And if its coming from another country where those chemicals are legal its not illegal for those chems to be sold, its up to the buyer to know if its legal or not in their country.
 
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