Meth Oral Meth for Therapeutic Treatment Of ADHD (Self Medication)

[Taj Manzoor]

I'm new to this forum so please do let me know if i say anything either against the rules or not with the "culture" of this forum...
I do not promote or glorify drug use in anyway, i am not a doctor, please do your own research, talk to your doctor and site relevant laws before attempting to replicate anything mentioned here...
Thank You in advance...

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I'm 19 and from England, I've struggled with ADHD my whole life, and have only found out recently (within the past 3 years) that out because my mother was very neglectful and wanted to push away all ideas of it due to it probably being her fault from drinking and smoking cannabis while pregnant (Not trying to look for sympathy just wanted to give context) and pretty much since I have found out I have been on a waiting list to get "diagnosed" so I can be medicated/get treatment for it and before anyone says because I don't have an official diagnosis that I could just be making it up or think I have something I don't, I do have an informal diagnosis but to get officially diagnosed for medication and treatment its a longer process.

I've resiled recently how much it is that having ADHD effects my life, for me it makes everything "harder" then it has to be, and has caused me to develop an irrational anxiety about doing certain tasks (which I have had CBT for) which hasn't helped one bit. Its made my life a living hell, it made me underperform in exams, basic selfcare, hobbies and other things I have ambition for. I'm a very ambitious person, i want to do well, I strive to always be "above average" but ADHD has stripped the ability for me to put pen to paper with my dreams.

So I got fed up, I got a gram of Methamphetamine and through my own process that I don't think I can say on here I turned them into capsules. Your probably thinking "Why Meth?, its a lot more addictive, neurotoxic and illegal" well unfortunately its the only solution that I can afford daily use of, other script pills like Elvanse or Ritalin and very hard to get where I am from + very expensive, meth on the other hand is cheap, powerful (per mg) and easy to find.

My plan is to start of taking 15mg daily (10mg upon waking and 5mg around dinner time) and then titrate slowly until the dose is "right" trying to replicate how a doctor would do if I was prescribed, i would be lying if i said this is the only time i would use them, but i do have a thought that i will take more for certain situations: studying, exams or nights out (rec

My main reason for making this thread is because I have a few questions,
- What are the real risks in what I'm doing?
- What is your honest opinion on what I'm doing? (BE HONEST)
- What precautions should I take to mitigate risk?
- Is there anything I may be overlooking?

If your going to disagree with anything stated, please give a reasonable/logical answer to why you think this way

Thanks for Reading

 

[Taj Manzoor]

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[Halif2]

Hey Taj. Welcome to BL!

Dude, did you bump a thread that you made... on the same day as making it?! Have patience! You'll likely get some good (or at least interesting) comments and feedback, but sometimes you have to wait a while for the thread to get 'picked up' and rolling. Probably the meth making you impatient

To answer your questions all in a blob at once: It's a high risk strategy, for sure, but it's not the worst idea I've ever heard. Possibly one of the worst, but... I mean, there was that guy recently who, as a non opiate user, wanted to start taking fentanyl in place of having a few drinks every evening, so it's all relative.

I'm sure you have read about/heard of Desoxyn - pharma meth sold in some countries as an ADHD medication. I believe it comes in a 5mg tablet. So your dose is triple the basic starter dose. I'm sure you are also aware that meth lasts for a really long time. Taking a second daily dose in the evening sounds like a good way to have severe insomnia. Using meth as an ADHD med, you'd be best off taking one dose early in the day.

The risks are addiction, addiction, addiction. If you are planning on taking meth every day, even if it's in modest amounts, you'll very quickly find it hard to skip a dose. On a non-dosing day you'll very probably feel like garbage (exhausted, depressed, and such). On the dosing days, you are also likely to want to take a sedative in the evenings so you can actually wind down and sleep, and from experience, I can say that meth and benzos are a great way to turn everything upside down real quick.

To recap: It is a very high risk move you are planning, and it will take a lot of discipline to pull it off. If it's even possible to "successfully" pull off (but then again, people take Desoxyn, so....)

Whatever you end up doing, I wish you the best with it. Stay safe.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

- What are the real risks in what I'm doing?

Self medicating being somewhat less sustaining and keeping you in a drug circuity.

- What is your honest opinion on what I'm doing? (BE HONEST)

... YMMV it seems as a bigger response ability having a bag of white powder versus some pharmaceutical pills.

- What precautions should I take to mitigate risk?

Knowing the purity and chirality, so if it is d/l or only dextro isomer. Especially important when using Meth. I presume as the difference between racemic Amphetamine and the d is already so big. Meaning the difference between a recreative [snorted drug illegal obtained] and being prescribed a medically functional stim.

Taken orally. Which i assume is your plan taking measured doses. Not taking a little line now and then. Euphoria takeing over and things getting out of hand.

- Is there anything I may be overlooking?

Meth-Amphetamine as well racemic Amphetamine are not in use here. The first officially has no medical use since ~begin 70-ties ? No Adderal either only Dextro-Amphetamine IR and ER -> and along Lysine version. Methylphenidate IR is available and the D isomer too in both in ER.

That s about it medically seen stim wise. Excluding Atomoxine and Bupropion which imo are not stims but used for ADHD. It sound as the smoothest the d-isomer of Meth be wary of that subtlety. Not like Phenidates direct action they cover the bases but need some work/ input to get them going my experience.

 

[Taj Manzoor]

Probably the meth making you impatient

Nah just the Very Expensive Ritalin Overdosed Sorry, I’m used to more active forums.

I believe it comes in a 5mg tablet.

From my research it comes in 5mg Tabs (which is the dose I’m making) isn’t the daily starter dose I’m pretty sure it’s 5mg taken 2x a day, so yeah a little less then what I’m doing

I may be wrong it’s hard to find reliable dosing information.

It is a very high risk move you are planning, and it will take a lot of discipline to pull it off. If it's even possible to "successfully" pull off (but then again, people take Desoxyn, so....)

I’m sure it can’t be as addictive as recreational use (famous last words I know) since the doses are alooot smaller, however now you have said this I may start on a lower dose, because if I over shoot it may be a rocky road.

Any tips on managing to keep use strictly to therapeutic?

I really appreciate your reply, Thanks

 

[Taj Manzoor]

Self medicating being somewhat less sustaining and keeping you in a drug circuity.

I don’t understand what you mean exactly, my guess is you mean it’s keeping me dependant? But my “argument” to that is that if I where persribed a Diffrent variant the same thing would be happening?

Taken orally. Which i assume is your plan taking measured doses. Not taking a little line now and then. Euphoria takeing over and things getting out of hand.

Yeah, they will be in 5mg Caps

Thanks for the response

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Ment getting drugs prescribed versus obtain via internet or on the street. Both have hick-ups in supply but the prescription to me seems more reliable.

Medically seen waiting for the man happens but is different. Has to do with Law, renewing prescriptions and insurance company s. My med s for ADHD get stopped every few years. Got used to it but it gets lesser it seems [knocks on wood just in case]

Waiting for the man never goes away. Be it the mail-man or on the street. And comes with a sort of illegality i did it rush. Never happens when the mailman drops the envelop of Dexies in my mail box. As i save a surplus and its not that recreational ime very liitle. When compared to racemic Speed from black market, like it are two different drugs.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Nah just the Very Expensive Ritalin Overdosed Sorry, I’m used to more active forums.

So you are taking MethyPhenidate atm if i get it right >

Ime experience dextro-Amphetamine while way better tolerable in comparison with MPH needs some personal input/ energy to make it worrk. Its way less in your face, in the background. i can sleep on it fine and it never makes my heart palpitate or hands shake.

No experience with Meth. Do you know if it is racemic or only dextro ? Overal Amphetamines feel smoother then MPH and d-Meth seems to top the chart regarding this. Also duration giving the option to dose twice a day instead of lingering between 2 3 with d-Amp duration.

 

[Taj Manzoor]

So you are taking MethyPhenidate atm if i get it right >

Not prescribed, i get it of a friend, only situational use, but for me its like if caffeine had a shitty older brother I

only really use it because it lasts longer and is slightly smoother.

i can sleep on it fine and it never makes my heart palpitate or hands shake.

Is this referring to MPH of D-Amp?

Do you know if it is racemic or only dextro?

It claims pure Methamphetamine, but I don't exactly trust Drug Dealers, Looks like Pure Crystal but I'm not expert whatsoever.

Waiting for the man never goes away. Be it the mail-man or on the street. And comes with a sort of illegality i did it rush. Never happens when the mailman drops the envelop of Dexies in my mail box. As i save a surplus and its not that recreational ime very liitle. When compared to racemic Speed from black market, like it are two different drugs.

Legality isn't a concern for me, I live in England if its your first time offence, good chance you walk out the police station same day, my freind got caught weilding a fucking sword of a knife, walked away with a slap on the wrist lol (this isnt funny my country is shit)

 

[Esperighanto]

So, I haven't had time to catch up on the past posts in this thread here yet but I know a solid handful of people who do this and the best way they found to do it was not to precap but to make a liquid solution they put in their water bottle, usually they flavor it pretty heavily too. It keeps you from slipping into doing lines of the crystal.

 

[Taj Manzoor]

So, I haven't had time to catch up on the past posts in this thread here yet but I know a solid handful of people who do this and the best way they found to do it was not to precap but to make a liquid solution they put in their water bottle, usually they flavor it pretty heavily too. It keeps you from slipping into doing lines of the crystal.

Once its in the caps thought its dilouted with filler, so its not like ill have pure crystal sat around.

Correct me if im wrong..

 

[Esperighanto]

Once its in the caps thought its dilouted with filler, so its not like ill have pure crystal sat around.

Correct me if im wrong..

Oh no I was loading caps with 12mg of ice each, huge pain in the ass. If I was using fillers though you'd be absolutely correct.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Is this referring to MPH of D-Amp?

Dextro-Amphetamine. But Dextro is known to have less side effects. In Meth the d-isomer it is even presented as merely peripheral active useless. But with Amphetamine its a valuable and a re`creative extra component the racemic way stronger and reinforcing. I found it distracting mostly Peripheral aggrivated effects .

With Phenidates i only had the racemic so hard to tell. But afaik i would prefer Amphetamines over Phenidates anyway more functional. Phenidates have weird pharmakinetics feel forced and way to physically. ime. Even the XR versions