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Stimulants Oral meth dosage
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BlueHues
Bluelighter
I mean, I take it you're not in the US, because all I'm saying is....it would be much easier to just get some sort of other stimulant...Adderall, Ritalin etc....and take 5-10 mgs of that a few times a day for a few months as an appetite supressant....even if you could get pharmaceutical meth, but using crystal to that end doesn't seem to be the most practical idea, addiction issues aside...I hope it works for you...maybe you just happen to have come across some meth and dont know what else to do with with it...IDK....but I don't think most normal non-drug using girls that wanna lose a few pounds, immediately think of using meth to do it...I could be wrong...It's like trying to dose powder heroin for slight back ache
You were quite right on maybe I just happened to come across some meth. I tried it before a couple of years back and had positive weight loss result just by doing it once because I couldn't sleep and eat for days. Initially I thought it's just water weight loss but the weight didn't come back and I was thrilled but I don't quite like the feeling cos it makes my heart palpitate like mad for more than a week and makes me so scare that I told myself that I will never do it again.
I'm not a totally non-drug using girl as I used to roll on E as a weekend warrior for ard a year but that was 10 years ago. Recently I've been gaining weight like mad as I've been extremely unhappy thus comforting myself with food. So here I am, looking for a quick fix and keeping things in check so I won't go off the cliff. I'm doing tons of research and taking supplements, protein shakes and trying to chow down bits of food throughout the day and keeping myself hydrated to make things easier.
Ohhh I read about Adderall but there's no adderall from where I am. I thought of buying them online (hence I started a thread asking about addarell and dieting previously), however I got to know of this girl that purchased it from a site and the adderalls look dubious and shipped from Afghanistan ! So Adderall is out for me.
I've tried pharmaceutical appetite suppressant such as duromine and panbesy (they contain phentermine and comes in 30mg tablets) but I guess I've been using them for the longest time so they doesn't work anymore. I could take up to 90mg and still feeling hungry though it still gimme insomnia. On nights when I can't sleep, I will just take drugstore sleeping aids (Pain relief Pm caplets... not benzo, valiums or sleeping pills ). I will limit myself to the sleeping aids and not taking them daily as the worse case is lost weight and yet become addicted to sleeping pills.
I'm sounding like a toddler in all these as compared to you guys
Thanks for listening to my rumblings ! Maybe cos I'm feeling the effect and needed to keep myself busy
I'm not a totally non-drug using girl as I used to roll on E as a weekend warrior for ard a year but that was 10 years ago. Recently I've been gaining weight like mad as I've been extremely unhappy thus comforting myself with food. So here I am, looking for a quick fix and keeping things in check so I won't go off the cliff. I'm doing tons of research and taking supplements, protein shakes and trying to chow down bits of food throughout the day and keeping myself hydrated to make things easier.
Ohhh I read about Adderall but there's no adderall from where I am. I thought of buying them online (hence I started a thread asking about addarell and dieting previously), however I got to know of this girl that purchased it from a site and the adderalls look dubious and shipped from Afghanistan ! So Adderall is out for me.
I've tried pharmaceutical appetite suppressant such as duromine and panbesy (they contain phentermine and comes in 30mg tablets) but I guess I've been using them for the longest time so they doesn't work anymore. I could take up to 90mg and still feeling hungry though it still gimme insomnia. On nights when I can't sleep, I will just take drugstore sleeping aids (Pain relief Pm caplets... not benzo, valiums or sleeping pills ). I will limit myself to the sleeping aids and not taking them daily as the worse case is lost weight and yet become addicted to sleeping pills.
I'm sounding like a toddler in all these as compared to you guys
Thanks for listening to my rumblings ! Maybe cos I'm feeling the effect and needed to keep myself busy
Thorns Have Roses
Bluelight Crew
Have you tried therapy, to deal with the mental issues that are causing you to over-eat/self-esteem stuff? If not it'd probably be worth a shot. Also, our Healthy Living subforum could help sort you out diet/excercise wise.
I went to a 10 days meditation camp to deal with my pain and self-esteem but I dropped out after day 2. Even if it's just for 2 days I feel better and is thinking of going back again.
Will certainty check out the healthy living subforum
Thanks!
Will certainty check out the healthy living subforum
Thanks!
konshuss
Bluelighter
Junko, you sound like a good soul ... and I'm sure everyone here wishes you all the best in trying to make some positive changes in your life. But I must chime in -- I don't think taking chronic low-doses of meth 'for weight loss' is a very good idea.
Even at low amounts taken orally, your body will build up tolerance. 'Finishing your bag' is not a strategy. Your physiology will adapt and after a period of time it just won't work as well (or at all) anymore. You might find yourself in the position where you will want to increase your oral dose -- just to get you back to where you were at the beginning.
And that's how the Express Train to Hell leaves the station.
I'm not even going to talk about the toxicity of meth. The havoc that meth does on your brain / axions / neurotransmitters is well-documented. Even low doses are going to be neurotoxic.
You also mention 'how much is 50mg? Two grains of rice?' ... argh. *shaking head* At the very least, if you're going to use an insane drug like meth, spend a few dollars / quid / kroner and buy a small scale. They're not expensive nowadays. A milligram scale in my area costs $20. Sure, it isn't lab-quality, but it's better than using 'grains of rice' as a measuring tool.
Instead of using meth 'for dieting', you would be much better off changing your lifestyle as several people have mentioned above. The best way to do this is to start small and make incremental changes. Keep a journal / diary of your habits and feelings, find out the cues for what is making you eat. Ask for help. Seek counseling. Go for a daily walk, eat healthy food and drink lots of water.
There's an interesting book I read recently called 'the Power of Habit', it talks about the reward system of the brain and our primal motivations for overeating / addictive behaviours, etc. ... I'm just recommending it as a place to start. There are lots of resources on how to make positive changes in your life.
FWIW, I'm not trying to sound preachy here. I've used speed. I have chronically used ritalin and adderall for no good reason. I have used meth orally before. Of all the shit I've tried, meth scared me. It's a drug that's too powerful, too awesome, and too addictive.
Take care of yourself.
Even at low amounts taken orally, your body will build up tolerance. 'Finishing your bag' is not a strategy. Your physiology will adapt and after a period of time it just won't work as well (or at all) anymore. You might find yourself in the position where you will want to increase your oral dose -- just to get you back to where you were at the beginning.
And that's how the Express Train to Hell leaves the station.
I'm not even going to talk about the toxicity of meth. The havoc that meth does on your brain / axions / neurotransmitters is well-documented. Even low doses are going to be neurotoxic.
You also mention 'how much is 50mg? Two grains of rice?' ... argh. *shaking head* At the very least, if you're going to use an insane drug like meth, spend a few dollars / quid / kroner and buy a small scale. They're not expensive nowadays. A milligram scale in my area costs $20. Sure, it isn't lab-quality, but it's better than using 'grains of rice' as a measuring tool.
Instead of using meth 'for dieting', you would be much better off changing your lifestyle as several people have mentioned above. The best way to do this is to start small and make incremental changes. Keep a journal / diary of your habits and feelings, find out the cues for what is making you eat. Ask for help. Seek counseling. Go for a daily walk, eat healthy food and drink lots of water.
There's an interesting book I read recently called 'the Power of Habit', it talks about the reward system of the brain and our primal motivations for overeating / addictive behaviours, etc. ... I'm just recommending it as a place to start. There are lots of resources on how to make positive changes in your life.
FWIW, I'm not trying to sound preachy here. I've used speed. I have chronically used ritalin and adderall for no good reason. I have used meth orally before. Of all the shit I've tried, meth scared me. It's a drug that's too powerful, too awesome, and too addictive.
Take care of yourself.
Hey guys,
It's noobie again. I dosed at 10.30am (Monday) yesterday, went for an hour class of Zumba at 6.30pm and haven't slept since.
It is 7am (Tuesday) right now, I'm feeling kinda tired but I got to go run some errands hence cld only sleep when I'm back.
My question is..
Is it due to the cardio exercise that got my heartbeat up n its keeping me awake or cos I don't have much food yesterday thus it makes the come down harder?
Thanks
konshuss : hehe Thanks for ur tips!
It's noobie again. I dosed at 10.30am (Monday) yesterday, went for an hour class of Zumba at 6.30pm and haven't slept since.
It is 7am (Tuesday) right now, I'm feeling kinda tired but I got to go run some errands hence cld only sleep when I'm back.
My question is..
Is it due to the cardio exercise that got my heartbeat up n its keeping me awake or cos I don't have much food yesterday thus it makes the come down harder?
Thanks
konshuss : hehe Thanks for ur tips!
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
It's not the cardio exercise, its the methamphetamine preventing a normal resting heart rate.
Junko, you mentioned that Adderall isn't available where you are. You're referring to the phentermine as Duromine, so I'm assuming you're Australian. I know they have some form of dexamphetamine preparation there. All Adderall is, is a mix of 72% dextroamphetamine base, and the rest levoamphetamine (which is not psychoactive). The levoamphetamine is added to reduce the amount of abuse as it adds nasty side effects in high doses.
After doing a little digging in google, I found that in Australia dextroamphetamine is only available under the generic name "dexamphetamine sulfate." You might want to try to use that as opposed to crystal if you insist on using a stimulant to diet.
As I stated above, this isn't exactly a maintainable method of dieting, as you'll end up eating a lot when you come off of the meth. This will likely result in you gaining every bit of weight back and possibly more. You have to force yourself to eat something if you're doing this though. Don't just not eat. This will slow your metabolism to a screeching hault as it goes into starvation mode, and when you come down and finally eat something, even if it's not much, you're body is going to grab ahold of that and hang on to it for a long time, because your body doesn't know when you will get to eat next.
The only way this will work is if you use it to correct eating habits. Eat about 5 small snacks throughout the day (~100 Cal), and 3 meals (~300-500 Cal); Drink at least 2 liters of water/day; Exercise in moderation (you're on very powerful stimulants; you don't want to put too much stress on your heart); Take vitamins and supplements to promote health; and try to get 8 hours of sleep (at least shoot for 6).
Sorry to preach, just don't want you to waste all the money you spent on the go so you could lose weight.
After doing a little digging in google, I found that in Australia dextroamphetamine is only available under the generic name "dexamphetamine sulfate." You might want to try to use that as opposed to crystal if you insist on using a stimulant to diet.
As I stated above, this isn't exactly a maintainable method of dieting, as you'll end up eating a lot when you come off of the meth. This will likely result in you gaining every bit of weight back and possibly more. You have to force yourself to eat something if you're doing this though. Don't just not eat. This will slow your metabolism to a screeching hault as it goes into starvation mode, and when you come down and finally eat something, even if it's not much, you're body is going to grab ahold of that and hang on to it for a long time, because your body doesn't know when you will get to eat next.
The only way this will work is if you use it to correct eating habits. Eat about 5 small snacks throughout the day (~100 Cal), and 3 meals (~300-500 Cal); Drink at least 2 liters of water/day; Exercise in moderation (you're on very powerful stimulants; you don't want to put too much stress on your heart); Take vitamins and supplements to promote health; and try to get 8 hours of sleep (at least shoot for 6).
Sorry to preach, just don't want you to waste all the money you spent on the go so you could lose weight.
tricomb
Because it was my third day and I was able to sleep the previous 2 nights but not yesterday after the cardio
Jktm
Hey thanks! I gonna do some research on that! I think Zumba is too stressful for my poor heart.
'm a safety officer, already keeping myself hydrated by drinking lotsa of water and having supplements.
I'm taking a day off stimulant to keep my heart in check today! Feeling the hunger pangs but trying my best to go for healthier choice
Because it was my third day and I was able to sleep the previous 2 nights but not yesterday after the cardio
Jktm
Hey thanks! I gonna do some research on that! I think Zumba is too stressful for my poor heart.
'm a safety officer, already keeping myself hydrated by drinking lotsa of water and having supplements.
I'm taking a day off stimulant to keep my heart in check today! Feeling the hunger pangs but trying my best to go for healthier choice
Hello Peepz!!!!
I'm still alive and well ! So much for my determination & discipline to lose the weight but well... it didn't work as planned. I did lose a bit of weight but that's thru healthy eating and exercising. I did not lose any weight during the days when I'm on meth, I guess it totally crashed my metabolism and I don't enjoy the hype from meth.
I started out with 2.5g, after almost 2 mths and wastage as I'm a total nub (burned the whole bowl, accidentally dropped the m all over, etc...) I'm still left with 1.5g which I gave away.
Just cleaned my meth bong n pipe with efferent and feeling happy that it's sparkling clean thou I kinda miss the feeling of swishing the bowl and blowing thick clouds of vapour.
I'm just glad I didn't end up as a meth head :D
I'm still alive and well ! So much for my determination & discipline to lose the weight but well... it didn't work as planned. I did lose a bit of weight but that's thru healthy eating and exercising. I did not lose any weight during the days when I'm on meth, I guess it totally crashed my metabolism and I don't enjoy the hype from meth.
I started out with 2.5g, after almost 2 mths and wastage as I'm a total nub (burned the whole bowl, accidentally dropped the m all over, etc...) I'm still left with 1.5g which I gave away.
Just cleaned my meth bong n pipe with efferent and feeling happy that it's sparkling clean thou I kinda miss the feeling of swishing the bowl and blowing thick clouds of vapour.
I'm just glad I didn't end up as a meth head :D
pizzystrizzy
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Tolerance develops to the anorectic effects of stimulants fairly quickly, which is why they aren't prescribed for more than 6 months for this purpose. If you have already developed a tolerance to the anorectic effects of phentermine, it won't take long with amphetamine or methamphetamine. What will you do when oral dosing isn't enough?
edit -- just saw your most recent post. I'm glad you found a better way!
ryand123
Bluelighter
Sorry to hijack the thread for a sec but I also have a meth oral dosage question! What is a good dose for the studying and ADHD? This isn't something I use meth for on the regular but I obtained a half gram to help me study for finals. So what is is a good dose to help study and give motivation? And also, is there any interactions between meth/amps and prednisone and albuterol? I'm being treated for bronchitis and am a little worries about the meth interacting with the steroids and inhaler. Thanks guys!
If you insist on using speed as a weight loss tool, which I advise against and I echo the sound advice of everyone else, I'd suggest investing in a mg scale. Trying to eyeball doses is extremely inconsistent.
Also I'd recommend with every new bag you buy, taking a low "test dose" because methamphetamine purity varies widely from one batch to the next.
Be careful.
P.s. You really don't need to lose the weight I'm sure you're beautiful just how you are. Healthy is beautiful. Skin and bones is not. Just my 2 cents.