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Oral Heroin (Why Not?)

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Does anyone have info as to why Heroin isn't very orally viable? Also how many Mgs would be a threshold dose for a low/moderate user? One more thing- Has anyone ever tried this method?
Thanks! Just very curious!
 
There is no reason you couldn't consume heroin orally.
You'd just have to use more (SIGNIFICANTLY more)... and even then it would be qualitatively less desirable.
Why would anyone want to pay more, and get less?
No one really knows why some drugs absorb better than others. It's a matter of the millions of different chemical reactions which are going on in the body...
Part of the problem is that chemicals absorbed through the GI, pass through the liver prior to entering the bloodstream. During this 'First-Pass' opiates in general don't do so well.
Even popular oral opiates like codeine are subject to significant first-pass metabolism.
Beyond that, the main appeal of heroin is its quick onset... it crosses the blood-brain barrier faster than morphine, that's the point! So eating it is kind of counter-productive.
Additionally, as with any chemical, when you eat something you end up just passing most of it. Regardless of what the chemical is, most of it is going to end up in the toilet in the morning. Especially when you eat a whole bunch of it at once.
So with heroin, orally, you are going to need an extremely high, fairly expensive, dose, for an effect which is less than ideal.
I won't speculate too far into specific dosages, but I imagine that we'd be talking the 10-20x the IV dose to reach ANY effect.
[ 10 July 2002: Message edited by: Timerare2 ]
 
good explanation! =)
you should also note that the first-pass metabolism of codeine (specifically) is a good thing - codeine itself is a poor analgesic, but your liver (cytochrome P450-2D6, to be specific) is brilliant enough to be able to demethylate codeine to produce morphine. so codeine has to be 'activated' by the liver before it's effective -- which is why codeine is most effective when taken orally.
 
Why not just eat up an OC or an MS-Contin. It's more cost effective. It will get you off better as well. You would have to take a significantly larger dose of herion oraly to get the effects of either bumping it or banging it. It can be done but it will take more then the average dose. So I would just try the OC's or the MS's...
 
No one really knows why some drugs absorb better than others.
Well, I don't know about that, there is always some scientific reasoning worded in a language I cannot understand to explain it….lol :)
But to answer Technical’s question, people don’t try taking heroin orally because the it is a waste of good money. I am pretty positive some pussy out there has tried and got ok results by doing it….but if you’re thinking about using heroin, then why don’t you just snort it or bang it? Oh well, I will no longer question your reasonings….
But NoriegA is right. Just get some Oxycontin (though I still think you should crush and snort this drug, but if anything at leastcrush it up before you swallow it!!!! PLEASE!!). The high is just as euphoric and great.
What’s the fun in just swallowing a drug? Its too simple and usually much less efficient…you need to milk the drug you’re using for all its worth…
[ 10 July 2002: Message edited by: AciD KaT ]
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I swallowed a packet of heroin once...this was when I did not have needles on me and I don't like snorting or smoking things, also I was in a rather regulated situation so taking it orally was the best way...
It really didn't do much, felt like I had popped a few codeine...NOTHING compared to injecting it and while I can't comment on how it would feel compared to snorting/smoking it I imagine it would be considerably less. In any case, it really is a waste of your money...
 
Cool! You guys pretty much answered my questions! It was more of just a curiosity question. and to everbody who chimed in with the why don't you just bang it, That is the point- I have been banging or snorting everyday for over a year. I was just curious as to the effects of oral heroin not as how good it will be on my pocket book!
Here is how all this started! I am thinking about kicking (not because of money[money is enless])But just certain health advantages of not being addicted to any one substance!!!! Well I haven't banged heroin for 2 days and right now I am at around 140mg of Oxycodone a day, but I still have quite a good bit of heroin left,
I was wondering if this could be an effective way of weening myself down to a managable level over the next month or two?
--Thanks--
 
taper down with oxycodone! While this may not be as comfortable as tapering down with heroin, it's a lot less tricky, tapering down with heroin is extremely (at least in my experience) hard to nail right. One binge will ruin a week's worth of tapering.
 
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