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Oral Fentanyl dosage

Syd_Barret

Syd_Barret

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Ok, I did a search, but I could not find any thread regarding oral dosage for a 25ug patch.
Ok a few questions
I have no opiod tolerance what so ever would wearing a 25ug patch blast me?
I've asked around and most people said just to rip open and eat it.. this appeals to me also because I can't be high for 2-3 days straight.
So if I was to eat it how much should I eat?
Half?
1/4?
1/8?
Oh yeh forgot to add my weight
140 pounds
[ 16 May 2002: Message edited by: Syd_Barret ]
 
Don't eat it. I read the pamphlet from inside the box and it says it is not recommended for patients with no opiate tolerance to take more than 25ug/hr. The euphoria is impressive, but you'll puke if you can't handle it. IMO, don't do it if you're at all concerned because you wouldn't be if you were into opiates.
 
rub half of it on your gums, that will do the trick, keep some benedryl on hand for the itching and puking though, don't ever swallow or drink anything after you rub it on your gums untill it hits you, it takes about 5 minutes to kick in.
 
^^^^I have to disagree. Why not just slap it on and be fucked for days, instead of wasting this 'priceless' drug?
If you can't handle it, you won't like it, wasting it.
I'm sick of hearing all the hype and bullshit with this drug. I've done it 2 times and I've gained respect for it strength.
Does anyone hsve od/death stats off hand, im interested to see them because it is misused so much.
 
WHY?
God dammit didn't I already tell you?
I cannot be high for 2-3 days straight
I can only be high for about a maxium of 6-12 hours
Anyone else have any suggestions?
 
He is probably worried about being high around someone he can't act high around. It is an opiate so it is very possible you can hide it..but if it is affecting you really hard it might be tough.
If you wanted to avoid the naseua proble you *could* smoke it. As I have seen reports of people ODing this way I really suggest you don't.
Just slap the fucker on, if it hits you really hard and it is still to strong to act sober in 6-12 hours then using any more concentrated of a form would really have been a bad idea (better to
waste a little then die). If you aren't fucking high there is really little you can do non-opiated that you can't do opiated. If anything. You probably will just be a happier cheery person with the warm opiate glow and not nodding off or anything obvious. Although if you work in a pharmacy or addiction treatment center (i.e. with knowledgeable people) it might be slightly differnt.
Ohh and Dr. Rolls just b/c it says over 25ug/hour is not recomended for non-tolerant opiate patients almost certainly means that non-tolerant opiate patients can do more (they are always more carefull than they need to be in those pamphlets b/c they aren't trying to get you high and they need to worry about grandmas dying). I mean I am sure the amount of heroin I can inject as a non-tolerant user isn't *rcomended*. After all controlling pain not getting the nod is the point of medicinal opiate use. Tho please don't use my (possibly incorrect) opinion as sufficent justification for doing a fuckton.
[ 17 May 2002: Message edited by: quale ]
 
Well, god damn it!!! Why don't you put it on and take it off. It still does work with multiple useages.
Hey, fuck off! I offered my advice and if you can't handle it, don't yell. You obviously have no experience with Fentanyl and refuse to accept advice that you don't want to hear.
Don't take it until you're familiar with what the consequenses and knowledge of what you're dealing with. That's pretty standard around here.
 
quale:
Yes, you're correct. I stated that through what I read medically, not abusively. I still strongly believe people should be careful with it. I puked from it, only once.
In addition, somebody I know had been on the patch for a week. His personality was extremely enhanced. He was very social, happy, and generous(He gave me a lot of stuff for free :) ).
 
Yes, I could reapply the patch. It works but what I have read is that the membrane is destroyed once removed and it is much harder to reapply it.
Why I yelled at you was because you asked something that I had already answered in my previous post. I'm not yelling at you because I don't want to hear what you have to say. Say whatever you want, your advice is welcomed, but I was trying to stay away from the regular way of taking the patch. Unless someone here can tell me that I will get floored from a 25ug patch by putting it on the skin. I mean from what I have read is that most people have to eat it to get a good high from a 25ug patch at least.
Ok, this leads me to a new question.
Should I put it on or just eat a tiny bit?
*NOTE* I will be very angry with myself if I put it on and just get a tiny buzz from it. This is a rare occassion that I have a patch and I really don't want to waste it.
So I could put it on.. and take it off when I need to be sober.. then attempt to put it back on later?
Maybe smoke it once the patch has become some what expended and would be safer for a non-tollerant user
Maybe eat it?
Don't worry I won't yell just because I don't want to hear what you have to say
[ 17 May 2002: Message edited by: Syd_Barret ]
[ 17 May 2002: Message edited by: Syd_Barret ]
 
Ok, a 25mcg patch of fentanyl contains 100 hours worth of doses, or about 2500mcg. This means you have 100 doses in all of the gel contained in that patch. Just to be on the safe side, start with 25mcg rubbed onto your gums, like someone stated earlier. So how the shit do you measure out 25mcg of fentanyl-loaded gel? Simple: fentanyl is very soluble in water.
Pull the plunger out of the back of a syringe and squirt all the gel into to it. Carefully put the plunger back in(don't squirt any out the tip!) and measure the amount of gel you have. Then, squirt all the gel into a glass cup and squirt water in there until you are up to 25ml(total amount, inculding gel) or so(measuring with syringe). Mix VERY THROUROUGHLY, and you now have a fentanyl solution containing 25mcg of fentanyl per 0.25cc of water. Suck up 0.25cc of this solution and squirt it under your tongue or between your gums and cheek and let it sit there for a few minutes, or until you feel high. You can adapt those meausurements to however you feel fit, as well as the dose ;) .
Haven't bothered to search anywhere yet, but does anyone happen to know how much these patches cost from a pharmacy? It seems like an extremely cheap buzz if copped this way, I would willingly pay $50 dollars for a 25mcg patch, and I am sure they are not nearly that expensive! Well, maybe, but like I said, does anyone actually know? Going to go see if I can dig anything up. Have fun with your fentanyl!
 
Originally posted by ketamatic:

. Haven't bothered to search anywhere yet, but does anyone happen to know how much these patches cost from a pharmacy? It seems like an extremely cheap buzz if copped this way, I would willingly pay $50 dollars for a 25mcg patch, and I am sure they are not nearly that expensive! Well, maybe, but like I said, does anyone actually know? Going to go see if I can dig anything up. Have fun with your fentanyl!
W/o insurance, a 5 pack of 100 ug patches are around 200 USD.
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Ketamaniac maybe I am misunderstanding you but why are you pulling the gel back into the plunger. It seems less wastefull to do it this way.
Squeese out as much of the patch as you can into a small amount of water (opening up the patch and letting it soak actually might be a good idea here....if something else in the patch fucks with this someone let me know). Now you know you have ~2500 mcg of fentanyl in that water. Now just add more water until you reach the desired concentration. For instance if you wanted 25mcg per .25cc (same as 100mcg per cc). then you just add water till your total volume is 100ml. You can of course easily change this here to whatever concentration is desiered.
 
ok, my friend, with no opiate tolerance, ate a 5mg fentanyl patch and survived, was rather high, but not overly high. The thing that suprised me was yes, he was high for 3 days. This was after he puked the patch up after about 6 hours of it being in his stomach. So, I think eating the gel, seeing that it is a gel, will not defeat the time release. Rather, the gel will sit in your stomach, slowly dissolving and releasing as it would in patch form. Has anyone actually tried to shoot some of this up? I havn't heard of anyone yet, try it, that probably won't even defeat the time release. You'd be shooting gel into your veins...
 
maybe the only way to defeat the time relase is to smoke it, but in the same process killing a lot of the chemical...
 
My God, I am going to place a fucking ban on anyone replying to a Duragesic post with totaly inane information ..
Slap the patch on your arm and enjoy it, if you can't devote a good 30-48 hours to it then wait until you can .. I will quickly give some answers not inflated with bullshit then close this thread..
1) Eating the gel is a risk, SO DON'T EAT IT .. yeah, you will hear a lot of stories about peoples friends that ate an entire patch and were just fine, but you're really taking a risk with it .. now to be perfectly clear, it's NOT the same fentnayl as you find in Sublimaze or Actiq, however, it's still a drug thats active in the microgram doses and THERE IS ENOUGH GEL IN ONE OF THOSE PATCHES TO KILL YOU .. if you want to be Zany and Fresh and Live On The Edge (like Spiderman) you can cut it open and rub a little on your gums or on the inside of your nose - a little dab on your finger probably wouldnt kill you, then again, you were told not to do it so if you die make sure you make your last words "PhreeX told me not to, he is not responsible for my untimely demise" .. hell, yer an adult I assume, go ahead and eat about half of the 25ug patch, in all honesty you will probably come out fine, though you're TRUELY WASTING a wonderfull drug, throwing away a wonderfull high too!
2) If you remove the patch from your skin the membrane is exposed to air and the patch will never be the same .. now I have had success in transfering a patch from myself to another person but that consisted of quickly pulling it off myself, slapping it on her, pushing the air out from all directions, then I placed a large ACE bandage over the patch to ensure an air-tight seal - that works with limited success.. what doesn't is taking the patch off, trying to re-apply the backing and then putting it away after wearing it for a short period of time... see, how it works is that membrane is made of a special synthetic, it also has adhesive on it and when you slap it on yourself then apply pressure your skin is able to direclty absorb the fentanyl while the membrane just kinda regulates it... it may seem like a simple little patch but there is actually some technology behind it - once it's stuck you lose the adhesive on the membrane itself, it wont have perfect contact with the skin, and there is going to be a pocket of air between the patch and your skin ... TRUST ME, I have tried to salvage these things .. now one option is to wear it until you're ready to come down, then just take it off - you can then stick it to itself so as to preserve the remaining gel inside, you can then abuse it another way...
Some people will still insist on taking them off, then to re-apply them they will compromise the membrane (by poking holes in it with a needle) as the gel will be released directly onto the skin, this is how one kid in Melbourne, Florida died several years ago (he had saved up several used patches then cut the membrane and slapped 'em on himself!)
3) In the pharmacy these things cost about $4.70 per milligram, so a 100ug/hr (or 10mg) patch costs about $47 without insurance .. funny thing is that on the street, you don't get to mark them up that much, meaning a patient without insurance shouldn't sell his patches for profit because a 100ug/hr (or 10mg) patch should only go for about $50 on the street .. but we wont discuss street prices because ITS NOT ALLOWED! I am sure some of you cool cats get 10mg patches for $10 each, and I'm sure some of you big time slingers sell your 10mg patches for $150 each - fuck off, no one cares!
4) A novel idea someone had of saving up 'dead' patches, drawing up all the gel from them with a large needle, then injecting it all into a Nicoderm (nicotine patch) from which the nicotine shit was removed, put some tape over the hole and apply .. not sure if it would work but it seems like it would..
5) To someone with ZERO TOLLERANCE a 25ug patch will have you feeling good for about 2 days, but it's nothing you can't handle .. of course, as I always say, YMMV - but I think you could wear a 25ug patch to work, school, around yer mom, etc.. and not be noticibly fucked up.. you might puke as well as itch, but if you want to get your moneies worth then shave the area above yer heart until you're almost bleading (yes, I'm aware the insert specifically says not to do this) .. take the patch and slap it on, then firmly aply pressure to the patch for about a minute - make sure all the air bubbles are worked out, to get it working you can take a hair dryer, put a wash cloth over the patch (so you dont burn yourself/the patch) then put the hair dryer directly over it, turn it on for about 20 seconds then after the burst of warmth apply pressure for another 30 seconds, you can put one of those large band-aide patches over it to prevent it from falling off (as the adhesive around the edges CAN come off!) .. enjoy the next 2 days, you can then remove it, cut it open, and smoke PIN HEAD AMOUNTS OF THE GEL AT A TIME (disclaimer: if you die you deserve it, I said you can do this but it could be fatal blah blah)
 
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