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Opioids Opium Powder from Poppy Seeds

Ara16w

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Morphine Powder from Poppy Seeds

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/328775-True-opium-powder-from-poppy-seeds

I feel a little silly creating an account to resurrect an old thread, but this has been helpful to me and I thought I'd give the technique a little boost. First off, I realize that poppy seeds have no morphine in them and that if there's any to be had from them then it's on the outside of the seeds due to processing. However, if you shop around then you'll realize that there are sources of unwashed fresh poppy seeds.

If you have access to the plants or pods, this probably isn't worth your time. If you have the tolerance of five men rolled into one addict, again, not worth your time. Those of you with little to no experience with morphine, those that have a responsible tolerance, or even those that don't want to drink unknown quantities of opiates in tea form may find this useful. My estimate based on other people's success stories is that one can obtain between 300mg-1000mg of morphine from 10lbs of poppy seeds which can be purchased for as low as $40.


The Tek:

1 - After procuring your seeds you'll need a container with a lid to wash them. You could funnel them into a 2 liter bottle. There's no need for fanciness here. Use just enough warm water to cover your seeds, tighten the lid, and shake for 5 minutes. You're not trying to extract anything from the seeds, only wash them. Theoretically, you could do multiple washes (no more than 3) following the entire procedure for each one and you should notice a heavy degrade in quality for each batch which in my opinion is a pretty good reason not to mix them.

2 - Untighten the lid enough to pour the wash into either a large pot or double boiler. I was initially under the impression that boiling water doesn't get hot enough to destroy morphine, but I got scurred by some folk claiming otherwise. Maybe someone else here can settle this (or I could stop being lazy and go research), but use a double boiler if you want to be cautious.

3 - Boil away the water while being extra careful not to burn the resin when the water starts getting low. To help ensure you don't destroy your project, you could use a hair dryer to finish drying the last bit.

4 - Scrape the resin with a razor blade. Your first batch (the initial 5 minute wash) should look like the picture in the original thread if not a higher quality.

5 - Fill a container with some ice followed by cold water. You want the water to be as cold as possible before using it since morphine isn't very soluble in cold water. Hopefully, the impurities will be. Mix your resin with just enough ice water to cover by an inch or so in a container that you can shake the hell out of. Go on, shake the hell out of it.

6 - Add a high proof alcohol, perhaps a 50/50 ratio. Water in the alcohol defeats the purpose of using cold water in the first place since morphine is just going to find its way into that.

7 - Freeze your alcohol / water / morphine mixture. Alcohol doesn't freeze but the water will, hopefully trapping the impurities.

8 - Pour off the alcohol into some container so that it may evaporate and you can once again scrape. You should be left with some fairly pure morphine crystals, at least in theory.

9 - Enjoy responsibly.
 
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Needed a solution for the lack of high proof alcohol and came up with it. If you get rubbing alcohol and it's 70% alcohol, you could store it in the freezer not to freeze but just to get it ice cold and that should work too.
 
ps: i read the whole process, is not opium powder but morphine powder, ofc morphine powder is very powerfull , even related with the (street nowadays soft )heroin
 
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ps: i read the whole process, is not opium powder but morphine powder, ofc morphine powder is very powerfull , even related with the (street nowadays soft )heroin

Hmm, you're technically right but keep in mind that it was opium that was pressed against the seed coatings. However, all you're trying to extract is the morphine so morphine powder it is. If I'm not mistaken, there's small amounts of codeine in it too but I don't think it will survive the heat nor is it in a large enough quantity to be worth saving.

This method should produce a product that's kick ass for a light weight. My experience with opiates is almost nil which is why I was interested in going this route.

EDIT: Changed the thread title.
 
Simply eat the crude extract.

It is not worth the time nor effort to purify PST any further than drying it to a paste...

You are going to potentially do three things:

Destroy opiates...

Make a product that is no more potent than the crude tea paste...

Create a nauseating rubbish...
 
well is the wather extract, not the opium, wich cant be extracted with water

If you got the real opium, not the wather xtract, i agree with Jay that eating em is the best option

but that process start point is the wather xtract, not the opium . Im not trying to be an ass, just to clarify, i have seen there is many mistake, many people calling "opium" to the wather xtract, wich has a colour&olour similar to opium, but it isnt, it has less alkaloids than real O
 
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Simply eat the crude extract.

It is not worth the time nor effort to purify PST any further than drying it to a paste...

You are going to potentially do three things:

Destroy opiates...

Make a product that is no more potent than the crude tea paste...

Create a nauseating rubbish...

The goal is to make it smokeable and snortable so that more options are had than just eating it, which this may or may not do. I highly doubt you're going to destroy anything since there isn't a method employeed here to do so.

Worst case scenario, the purification doesn't work and you have morphine in your alcohol and water layers, which just brings you back to the paste / resin. No harm in trying, and if it does work then you've removed some of the nauseating elements.
 
The goal is to make it smokeable and snortable so that more options are had than just eating it, which this may or may not do. I highly doubt you're going to destroy anything since there isn't a method employeed here to do so.

Worst case scenario, the purification doesn't work and you have morphine in your alcohol and water layers, which just brings you back to the paste / resin. No harm in trying, and if it does work then you've removed some of the nauseating elements.

If you are trying to snort it, waterline it like you would do with heroin.

Also, plugging is going to be efficient as well...

Smoking it is likely going to destroy most of your goodies, it is not opium and is not potent enough to be used as such.
 
I am somewhat suspect of the end result of this extraction. I was under the impression to seperate or extract morphine from the other alkaloids in opium one would need to alkalinize to ph 9 and precipitate the mixture. Is this actually just creating a crystallized form of the bevy of alkaloids in opium, not pure morphine?
 
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If you are trying to snort it, waterline it like you would do with heroin.

Also, plugging is going to be efficient as well...

Smoking it is likely going to destroy most of your goodies, it is not opium and is not potent enough to be used as such.

The closest I've come to waterlining anything was with freebase DMT. I ended up putting a water bottle up against my nose every 30 seconds or so to prevent it from feeling like someone was holding a lighter under it haha. I'll keep it an option but I'm anxious to see how this turns out first.

Why couldn't one vaporize it or sandwich it between something else one is smoking? There's bound to be a plethora of ways to make relatively pure morphine smokeable. Plus, the guy in the original thread snorted and smoked his despite it not being remotely pure and it seemed to work for him.


I am somewhat suspect of the end result of this extraction. I was under the impression to seperate or extract morphine from the other alkaloids in opium one would need to alkalinize to ph 9 and precipitate the mixture. Is this actually just creating a crystallized form of the bevy of alkaloids in opium, not pure morphine?

Probably, but if the purification method works at all then it's likely to at least get some of the shit in there you don't want out. I'll report back with findings at a future date unless someone beats me to it.
 
I guess it depends on what you are eliminating as to if its worth while. Getting rid of that nasty a#@ thebaine would be advantageous. Whatever the result I probably wouldn't go smoking it. Just consume orally. its a pretty simple and easy to perform tek so it would be worthwhile to get a concentrated product that could hit you harder, or possibly be plugged(not sure if it would be the same BA difference with oral compared to rectal as morphine HCl/SO2).
 
I guess it depends on what you are eliminating as to if its worth while. Getting rid of that nasty a#@ thebaine would be advantageous. Whatever the result I probably wouldn't go smoking it. Just consume orally. its a pretty simple and easy to perform tek so it would be worthwhile to get a concentrated product that could hit you harder, or possibly be plugged(not sure if it would be the same BA difference with oral compared to rectal as morphine HCl/SO2).

You can’t out the thebaine without destroying morphine.

The closest I've come to waterlining anything was with freebase DMT. I ended up putting a water bottle up against my nose every 30 seconds or so to prevent it from feeling like someone was holding a lighter under it haha. I'll keep it an option but I'm anxious to see how this turns out first.

Why couldn't one vaporize it or sandwich it between something else one is smoking? There's bound to be a plethora of ways to make relatively pure morphine smokeable.

It shouldn’t hurt as long as you aren’t using any acids to do the extractions.

Hence why I say “like” you would do with heroin.

The thing is, you don’t have a high enough concentration to even be remotely trying to purify. < That’s my whole argument.
 
... if I had a 1,000mg worth of morphine, no tolerance, and that didn't give me at least 10 solid doses then I must be immune to it. I'd be paying over 10x that price for the same amount of pure morphine on the street. How much one makes is up to the individual, but I'm referencing 10lbs worth of seeds. There's plenty of 50lb bags out there.

I'm still not sure why you think 300mg-1,000mg of morphine is such a low dose. I was under the impression that 30mg was a good starting place for someone around 200lbs with no tolerance.

Also, according to wikipedia thebaine is only in opium in small amounts. This tek isn't concentrating that amount, the ratio is the same be it opium or "morphine powder". I'm not real worried about it.
 
... if I had a 1,000mg worth of morphine, no tolerance, and that didn't give me at least 10 solid doses then I must be immune to it. I'd be paying over 10x that price for the same amount of pure morphine on the street. How much one makes is up to the individual, but I'm referencing 10lbs worth of seeds. There's plenty of 50lb bags out there.

I'm still not sure why you think 300mg-1,000mg of morphine is such a low dose. I was under the impression that 30mg was a good starting place for someone around 200lbs with no tolerance.

Also, according to wikipedia thebaine is only in opium in small amounts. This tek isn't concentrating that amount, the ratio is the same be it opium or "morphine powder". I'm not real worried about it.

I did not say that that was small dose. at all...
 
My dog told me he boiled it in a spoon, and it worked fine. All of the above too....not at one time,of course.
 
Sounds pretty placebo ish to me.

Poppy seeds do contain very small amounts of Morphine and Codeine, however, it's miniscule. I'm sure it does cause some minimal effects, but I wouldn't be surprised if the rest was placebo.

(Keep in mind, placebo isn't a bad thing! If it gets you high, who gives a shit! ;P )

7 - Freeze your alcohol / water / morphine mixture. Alcohol doesn't freeze but the water will, hopefully trapping the impurities.

Of course it freezes! Everything does! ....your freezer just doesn't go to a low enough temperature to freeze propanol lol.
 
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