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Opioids - first time - Fun

John_Burrows

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[NOTE - yes, this is a little long, but i'm a first timer and would REALLY like the advice and guidance of the more experienced folks out there, so please bare with me and read if you would be so kind...]

Ok so the first time I ever had a perscription pain killer was maybe 4 years ago... I had an awful toothache and was out of town and fortunately, my friend had a bottle of Vicodins that he hadn't used.

It took three of them to help. That being said, it gave me a hell of a buzz, but maybe 90 mins later it was over.

Mind you, I'm a built like a football player so it's always taken roughly double the dosage of almost any medication to work on me.

Over the last few months I learned about poppy seed tea so have been using that for fun about once a week, with the results varying wildly - I'd say I've one had 2 or 3 really good trips (and none of those I'd say were "out of my head" - just a good, warm, the-world-is-ok kinda feeling).

Well, last week I threw out my back, so I knew a trip to the doc would net me some of the "good stuff." I told him about my vicodin experience, so he said he'd give me 10mg percoset, which is supposed to be stronger that vikes. I said that this happens to me every now and then and since I also have had kidney stones a few times, would he be willing to give me a larger script so I could have extra on hand? He complied by giving me a bottle of 75!

So he told me since the 10mg percs were strong, to only take one, but I could take two if I really needed to.

Of course, that night I took two. I felt very little. Yes, I could feel it was working, but it was maybe a quarter of the feeling my best poppy seed tea experience was, and nothing like as good as the 3 vikes I had years ago.

The next day, I took 3 in the afternoon and the results were not much better. Ok, but not great. That evening I met a friend for drinks and wanted to see how they mixed with booze, so I washed two percs down with a martini.

THAT felt pretty good. A nice buzz. But 2 or 3 hours later, it was back to normal.

The next day I called the doc and told him I wasn't very comfortable needing to take 3 or 4 percs, 2 or 3 times a day to get minimal results. I just didn't like the idea of taking THAT MUCH medication, plus I knew all that tylenol wasn't so great for me. He agreed and gave me a script for 4mg hydromorphone, which he said was much stronger. Recommended dosage was 2.

But I got a nice bottle of 100 hits!

So last night I took 3. That gave me a comfortable, poppy seed tea-like buzz. Still not as strong as the tea had given me, but it was decent. Again, after 3 hours or so, the feeling was mostly gone. I crushed up another 2 and slammed that down, but it only brought back a tiny bit of buzz.

Tonight I was determined to make it a "special" saturday night. For pete's sake, I have all these pills, I want to get a good god damn high off of them for once! So I took 4 morphones to start out.

Maybe 45 mins later I could feel it, but it wasn't very strong. So I decided to crush up 2 more morphas and a perc for good measure and dump the powder into a shot of rum.

Half an hour after that I was feeling nice. Like maybe my best poppy seed tea experience, but it still was only a nice, warm feeling. Not like the room was spinning or I saw Elvis or anything.

All this began tonight at around 11pm, and now it's almost 1:30am and I am bascially back to being sober.

What gives? Is this normal, or do I just really have a high tolerance for opiates? I have a ton of pills to play with, so I'm happy to entertain anyone's suggestions.

Is oxycontin any better? When I was first in the doc's office I asked about it, but he said that stuff was pretty much only for people in the worst possible pain, like cancer patients and people who had been run over by a bus or something.

Thanks for reading and your insights!

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snort the hydromorphone ,daliudid hads a very bad bioavalablilty and is much more efficent when insnuffalated . also don't abuse prescription drugs or even take them unless its a must.you will probably get addicted to heroin at some point and your life will be over.i prolly should have written this part first
 
Snort it? I've never snorted or injected anything before... maybe I'll wait for a few others to voice their opinion before i try it.

Thanks for the warning, but I doubt I'll get addicted. Especially if what I've felt so far is as good as it gets - not something so amazing I couldn't live without it...

UPDATE: A friend who had an extra oxycontin gave me one to try. I just crushed it up and drank it down, maybe 15 mins ago. I think I feel something coming on, but not sure. We'll see how "powerful" this stuff is!
 
Plugging dillies seems to be a good way to avoid the needle if you want to get more out of them. Gotta say, you've got a good doc there who will jump you up to dillies in such a short time. Probably a mixed blessing. All them drugs, and so quickly, even tho you need them.

Just for reference: I've got crazy back/nerve pain/sciatica issues, have had two botched back surgeries, and after 5 years, my doc JUST put me up to 10mg Percs. I recently asked him for something more powerful and longer-lasting than the percs and he said, "No." We'll see what happens at my next face-to-face appointment.
 
What are "dillies?" I'm assuming that's a term for the hydromorphone. Can someone tell me a little more about them? And if they are so strong, then how come I can take 4 of 'em and barely feel it?

I just took 6 tonight, 2 hours after my Oxycotin, we'll see how it goes. The 1 oxycotin I took did have an effect, but I could tell it would take 2 or 3 to really launch me into outer space.

I guess I can try snorting the hydro... how many should I crush up and try?
 
snort the hydromorphone.... also don't abuse prescription drugs....you will probably get addicted to heroin at some point and your life will be over. i prolly should have written this part first
Q F T !!!!!!!
The OP has a dozen posts at BL and he has gone from Vicodin to Dilaudid. Heroin is just over the horizon. Quit now. Just say no to drugs!
 
You gota learn to appreciate your opiates. Snort your hydromorphone (bl note: for harm reductions sake, it is not good to ever put various powders up your nose) Start with one tablet...snort it. Waitf 15-20 min...and if the effect isnt enough, try another one, or even a half one)

Also, since you have all that oxycodone (percocet and oxycontin contain same drug) use the search feature to find info on a cold water exctractioon. Its very bad for you to go over 4 grams of tylenol (acetametphin) in a 24 hour period. A you can get very high off these chemicals...just keep trying.

But more importantly, take some time a search around bluelight and erowid for more info on these substances...use discretion, moderation, and harm reduction in your experiences. Good Luck and I hope this helped!
 
Thanks for the great advice, guys... I did search around here looking for info before I posted. I did see something about extracting the opiate from the percs, but I didn't understand it. Now I know to look for "cold water extraction," so I'll figure it out, thanks for that.

So last night I took an oxycotin at 9pm, then at 11 I took 6 dillies. A few hours later, 2 valiums.

Believe it or not, on a scale of 1 to 10 I don't think I got past a buzz of 5 or 6.

So yeah, I suppose it's time to cross the line tonight... or snort the line, as it were.

UPDATE: Ok I just crushed up 2 dillies and wiffed them up through a straw from Burger King. Boy, did that feel ghetto! I can taste it in the back of my throat, is that normal? How long before I should feel it - if it's going to work?

What are the dangers of snorting vs swallowing crushed up pills?

5 mins and counting... don't feel anything yet.

FURTHER UPDATE: Ok, after 15 mins or so, I did get a nice, warm feeling creeping in. It was good, but didn't get past a "6" or so. But, I could tell that if the buzz were twice as strong, I'd be in a really good place. About an hour later the high was significantly reduced.

So, about half an hour ago, I went on another "adventure." I ate two 10mg percacets, snorted 3 more dillies and chased it all down with a shot of rum.

I definitely feel "altered," but so far nothing earth-shattering. Maybe opiates just aren't the right weapon of choice for me.

In any case, I read up on "plugging," and many feel that dillies are one of the best candidates for the job, so tomorrow night I'll give that a spin.

FINAL UPDATE: Jesus, I must be super-resistant to opiates, man... a few hours later and I am stone cold sober. Never got very high. Blah. Maybe I'll just shove the whole bottle up my ass and hope for the best!
 
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YOUR ADDICTED ALREADY!

your chasing a buzz my friend, and heroin is your next best option.

all these things you are saying " i dont think i can get addicted" "its nothing i cant live without" are all things said by a heroin or oxy or ANY opiate addict at one point.

your in the first stages of addiction.

even if you stoped now, you would have to deal with nasty withdrawals.

your riding a VERY slippery slope my friend.

I KNOW your not going to listen to me. but remember my name. and remind yourself of this post when your life completely changes. you loose your friends. family, and money. and your faced with CRIPPLING withdraws.

cheers :-)
 
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I have a guy friend who never feels euphoria from painkillers. They work to get rid of pain but his body just doesn't metabolize it like most people's does. Maybe you have the same problem? If you took that many hydromorphones, you should definately feel something. You can try plugging it (crushing it, dissolving in some water & using a needle-less syringe to put it in your ass basically) but if that doesn't work, my guess is that you're like my friend. I would consider it a blessing. I wish I didn't feel painkillers. I would be far better off than I am now.
 
Enyay, thanks for the concern. Keep in mind I went through my "rave phase" a few years back, when I was going out every week and popping pills. We handled it fine back then, and I never got addicted to anything or craved anything... we just got bored after a while.

Right now, yes, I don't see myself as addicted because I have yet to experience the kind of feeling I'd want to chase over and over. I mean I have a house full of painkillers right now, and I don't touch them all day. I don't crave it, I don't miss it... but this evening I look forward to plugging for the first time and seeing if THAT does anything. If it gives me some sort of fantastic high, then yes, maybe I'll be in trouble then. And if all these opiates fail, there is NO WAY I am going to move up to heroin. It ends here. Honestly, even if I manage to get some fun out of these painkillers, when they're gone, it's back to the occassional poppy seed tea for me. That's all I really see in my future - unless my back goes out again!

Ganga, you might be right, it sounds like the same situation as your friend. My body just isn't processing the opiates like I think most people do. I do agree it's probably for the best.

On the other hand, I do want to know what sort of painkillers WILL work for me in the future, since i have a history of back pain and kidney stones. Is there something OTHER than opiate-based painkillers out there?

I do appreciate the concern, and if I hadn't already been through a "drug phase" once in my life and got out with no problems, I'd be more worried.

Still, I will continue to report what I'm up to and hope ya'll will continue to alert me to early warning signs!

In a few hours, we'll see what plugging does!
 
Comparing the addictive properties of MDMA (ecstasy) to OPIATES is like comparing a small handgun with a missile launcher.

i have been "raving" hard, for 3 + years. and ive consumed many pills. never once was i "addicted"

i had my first painkiller like 3 years ago. and it was history from there. even your poppy pod tea use should ring an alarm, its highly addictive as it had MANY opiate alkaloids.

If you were to stop right now. you would face a hellish WD.

im not trying to preach, or bust your balls while your trying to have fun.

HAVE fun.

but at that pace bro.....your looking at some hard time. in your OWN prison
 
Well, Enyay, how am I going to have withdrawl when the pills aren't even affecting me?

And, like I said, I go 24 hrs between hits and I can't say I notice any difference in my attitude, feeling or behavior. If I felt anxious for a hit, I'm more likely to crack open a pint of ice cream, since I so far have gotten far more pleasure from that than these opiates. But you sure seem to want to be right that my life is heading for the toilet, so for your sake I hope you're right so you can scream I TOLD YOU SO!

Now I have to read up on plugging and make sure I do it right. I'm going to dissolve 4 dillies and keep my fingers (and butt cheeks) crossed.

Report back here soon for a... um... report.

BJV - what are somas?
 
hello everyone

i have been just a browser of this forum for some time and just read and read and never registered and actually replied.

i have been abusing pain killers for about 2 years now i broke my knee in half 2 years ago and it was a life long injury it will never be the same again i have been told.so i get 120 norco 10/325's a month and those last me no time.

i abuse about any drug i get my hand on i rescentley just smoke fentnyl patch on tinfoil lol i got done and it was the best high i every had doing opiates!!.


bro stop using pain killers while you can!!! you know how many times i told myself the same thing your telling yourself right now!! i cant count how many times on my hands 20 times over!!

2 years later now and i am still doing it after i pretty much have nothing in my life,no girlfriend anymore i have treated every girl i have got in the last 2 years like shit due to my drugs coming first,i used to have a nice truck or car at all times with nice wheels custom everything,now i have just a regualr truck that is worth nothing realy,i just got a 3 thousand dollar loan and ended up spending 1800 on a truck and guess were the rest of the money went? yep to buy drugs a couple hundred dollars at a time.i had even baught a cd player for the truck for 200 bucks and a kicker amp and guess what when i ran out of cash i sold both of them to buy more drugs! now i have no radio in my truck!!

i want to quit soooo bad but everytime i want to life throws me a cureball and i just resort back to popping some pills!! lifes just easier when i got pills


i am sure there are tons of people on this forum that are in the same boat i am!
 
hello everyone

i have been just a browser of this forum for some time and just read and read and never registered and actually replied.

i have been abusing pain killers for about 2 years now i broke my knee in half 2 years ago and it was a life long injury it will never be the same again i have been told.so i get 120 norco 10/325's a month and those last me no time.

i abuse about any drug i get my hand on i rescentley just smoke fentnyl patch on tinfoil lol i got done and it was the best high i every had doing opiates!!.


bro stop using pain killers while you can!!! you know how many times i told myself the same thing your telling yourself right now!! i cant count how many times on my hands 20 times over!!

2 years later now and i am still doing it after i pretty much have nothing in my life,no girlfriend anymore i have treated every girl i have got in the last 2 years like shit due to my drugs coming first,i used to have a nice truck or car at all times with nice wheels custom everything,now i have just a regualr truck that is worth nothing realy,i just got a 3 thousand dollar loan and ended up spending 1800 on a truck and guess were the rest of the money went? yep to buy drugs a couple hundred dollars at a time.i had even baught a cd player for the truck for 200 bucks and a kicker amp and guess what when i ran out of cash i sold both of them to buy more drugs! now i have no radio in my truck!!

i want to quit soooo bad but everytime i want to life throws me a cureball and i just resort back to popping some pills!! lifes just easier when i got pills


i am sure there are tons of people on this forum that are in the same boat i am!

Hey brother. i was in your EXACT spot.

the words you are saying, use to come out of my mouth.

I HIGHLY RECOMMEND SUBOXONE! but only if you really do want to stop.


In a matter of a couple months i stopped using completely. it wasn't painless. but it was much easier then cold turkey, and it helps you gradually ween off.


Life gets back to normal dude. and girls like you again. and you don't have to stress about when your gonna buy again. or if your guy will come through, etc etc etc
 
ok so I just plugged 16mg of hydromorphone.... sort of.

I crushed up 4, 4mg pills and added a bit of hot water to create a solution. Problem is I way overestimated how much water to use, and instead of 2 or 3 ml I wound up using 20! So I just fucking filled up 4 5ml baby syringes full of solution and pumped it into my thirsty butt hole.

But perhaps it wasn't so thirsty, since i made a god damn mess of the place! Every time I pulled out the plunger I felt wet goo dribble down my ass crack, and now not only is there a big wet spot on the bed (not made the fun way) but drops of the happy-juice have just gotten all over the place.

God knows how much of it actually got ass-gobbled.

This was about 10 mins ago, so we'll see if anything kicks in.

Ass I type this (heh heh) I can feel the slow warmth coming over me... not bad... will update.

And guys, I don't have a girlfriend or a family or a truck to loose. I got laid off last week so really, what am I looking at ruining? Got a week of med insurance left and I've never known anyone other than a doc who can get pain meds, so like it or not, after this particular episode with my back is over, it's all over with.

Well, aside from the ghetto poppy seed tea, that is.

UPDATE: Ok, about half an hour since I plugged an unknown quantity of dillies, and all it's done was get me a little warm and fuzzy. Oh, and my back still hurts.

I guess I could try plugging again, since I didn't do it quite right, but even worst case scenario I still got at least 2 of 'em up there. I don't think any more is going to make much of a difference.

Bah.

UPDATE: For the pain I took 3 percs about 15 mins ago... NOW I am starting to feel halfway decent. Maybe I need the "top and bottom" combo!

UPDATE: Ok, for maybe half an hour I had a feeling that was approaching what I think most people latch onto as the painkiller buzz... and it was very, very nice. But oh so fleeting. In the last 3 hours I've had 3 dillies up my ass and 3 percs down the hatch and if that's not enough to launch me into outer space, it just ain't gonna happen.

Time to find something else. Like porn and some chocolate.
 
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Lol this thread has shocked me and amused me.
For your pain have you tried a strong indica weed? Ideally made into injestibles or vapourised.
 
enyay i appreciate it man

yea what is that suboxone? is it like methadone? my problem would be the cost i heard most of that stuff is crazy exspensive and i dont have insurance! i must say i would like to be clean and happy without the drugs, i get 180 10/325's a month from the doc, i would love to just get those and sell em lol i mean thats a good chunk of change thats a new car payment or a house rent payment i could make just doing nothing but instead i eat them like there candy everymonth !!

it sucks but if you would please give me some info on those pills in a pm or something so we dont ruin this guys thread.

oh yea keep plugging away bro lol u will get high one day i assume lol
 
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