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Opioid Withdrawal Treatment and Strategies V2. Still Ill Says The Smiths

I just got on a subby script that I am ashammed to say I abuse, meant to supervised , but it's only on the very odd day i don't walk out with my tab, some days i do just take it normal, i only take it away so I can sniff because 8mg is too much , and obv am a nasty boy I know if a just sniff a few ml here an there , like today I got a half g and it was nice for a few hours. Today was the first in weeks, because I have been doing other stuff, and diazepam has helped but sometimes am going over the top trying to get the balance right, a puff weed and people know well family/some mates know am on Diaz, taking in small doses I feel like they help me.

I have tried the full shabang , cold turkey tapering etc aw shite , was for me , a don't look like a junkie at all, but I am a raging one trying to deal with that and being normal , to anyone I say subby cause it will make you straight, but since i have been on it and it has made me too straight I have mental health issues and I haven't been giving no meds yet, and i refuse certain meds, I need ones that will do what diazepam does, probs pre gabs, and my subby and I will live a normal life, I know that's currently only way i can do it, but if you don't have any mental health issues subs are big help , obv brings you into the NHS junkie group , am on for various things anyway, drug related obv lol, but a live a certain life style that's fuck all to me, but some people are worried about jobs, but if you are having a hard time coming of opaites then subs will help.
 
Man, my last heroin withdrawal absolutely ruined me. It's remembering that withdrawal that stops me from using more than once a week. I prepared myself by buying 12.5g of K, as that eases quite a few of the symptoms. Unfortunately I absolutely cained through that and it was finished within 3 days. I brought another 5gs, which lasted 2 days and then just rode out the rest. I'm really not sure if those un-godly amounts of ketamine were making it worse or not. I would start sniffing half hour after waking up and have another line every 45 minutes or so. Truly one of the most horrible experiences of my life, which the main-effects lasted roughly 7 days and was then followed by intense depression and apathy for the next few months.

On 4mg of subs these days, which have really improved my life. The worst part about it is sitting in the back room with a pharmacist a foot away, just sitting in silence whilst the subs dissolve. Eurgh, so unbearably uncomfortable! I've heard a lot of people say that the pharmacist seem to look down on you if you are going to pick up your script, but I've always found them to be extremely friendly :).
 
Hi, thanks for moving my message to this thread. Not posted before then. Well I didn't use am it's day 12 now. Sadly it's still rite their in my head so im probably going get something as surely it can't set me bk now? An if it does then ib wil stop me ever fuking up again surely. Been tested today an meth is still in my system on day 12! The Bristol regime is pretty new an im a guinea pig lol. Iv had withdrawal so but not all all once so easier to handle. Its a bit going from meth quickly onto subys then nothing but the subys have a long half life so withdrawals r easier. Need to be determined thou an I am but I just want to have once more and say bye to that life. I have an ml ways worked an dont look like a "user" if ya get me. Think that makes it harder as it didn't affect my life, not as such anyway but iv had to stop as I want kids an I dont want this life. This realy wil b a one off. Last goodbye I guess. Il let u no wat happens!
 
Didnt use last nite as I rang my man an he said il go bk to day 1 if i use! Honesty hey! He said wait so i did but its the same today. Been given some naltraxone tablets so gona start them in a few days an then there won't be any point using an its meant to help with cravings but whether it does or not I don't no. Iv got a couple of dip tests left over so il test myself an start em wen the gears out my system. Dont feel too rough today. Just got bk ache an leg ache but I think they r more psychological than actual withdrawals oh and sneezing to fuk but read thats phycological. May change my mind yet but usualy wen I think I want to use no matter wat I will end up doing it but not going bk to that life, im only 30 and iv had this life since it was 13. Y an 18 year old addict wud introduce heroin to a 13 year old is beyond me. Smoked it for 3 months then cranking after that till i cudnt get my veins no more then smoked it for the past 6 years. If I had Any veins left id still be doing it probably. Miss that feeling pins an needles and that warmth that goes through ya body. Always had shit veins anyway, never went in my groin or legs thou cus I have had to live 2 lives an had be careful. Maybe that's y Im wanting go bk for one last time, craving that feeling that you can't get from tooting. Im just sitting in my car outside the dentist waiting for my appointment music on full blast to try get it out my head. Il let ya no. Day 13 ffs, seems like it's been time since I used but it's not even been 2 weeks!
 
Didnt use last nite as I rang my man an he said il go bk to day 1 if i use! Honesty hey!

Too right for a salesman. Plenty of insight - do they use as well? Of course, didn't stop them selling to you anyway but the fact that they raised the setback it would cause is somewhat of a human perspective for those folks.

Can't offer any suggestions zzzlll other than keep posting - this process is bitch and that 'one more time' shit is something that I don't know if I personally will ever get over, regardless of whether or not I stop using. Just stick in there and try and put scoring off at any opportunity you can (it's how I've got by the last decade, and how have I got by? Still pretty badly...) - I would personally wait until you are feeling really poorly before using the suboxone, if you're just urine screening yourself to see when you have little enough gear in your system to justify taking them then this may be a waste and considering they are hardly going to get you twisted you may get more from them once climbing the walls.

Just my 2 cents, as always - everyone knows I haven't amassed any more money than that at once in years.

All the best mate.
 
Cheers steewith2ees, I ended up fuking up an getting half last nite. literally had 5 lines an thought wat the fuk am I doing on day 12! Cudnt throw it away thou! Still got it but don't want it as feel like i feel worse again today or not sure if thats in my head or not. Didnt think it wud of made a difference tbh. Really pissed. Going start naltraxone tomorro. Need these cravings to go. Dont happen loads but it's hard wen u no something feels so good but ain't no good!
 
^ done that soooo many times man, 'swear this is the last bag'x10000
recovery isn't a straight road is all i'll say - i hope it hasn't set ya back and wishing you the best
 
recovery isn't a straight road is all i'll say - i hope it hasn't set ya back and wishing you the best

This is very true and a point worth emphasising. The 12 Steppers have convinced themselves and far too many others that any slip back into use - no matter how small - means you may as well go back to full-blown addiction. Such bullshit. It takes virtually all addicts some considerable time to get away from the on again/off again cycle of abstinence and relapse - the extent of the relapse is something that can be controlled much easier than the simple fact of relapse. One-off use can remain that way - there's no reason at all to swallow the "One drink makes a drunk" bullshit mindset that seems to often effect even non-12 Steppers far more prevalently than it has any bizniz doing. Simply isn't true. You make your own choices and sometimes that choice is to use. The important thing is to remember you can also make the choice not to.
 
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