Hello, my name is Cody, im from milwaukee, wisconsin. Im 20 years old, ive ben doing opiates for 6 years, and smoking weed for eight. Ive done about 50 different illegal drugs, which i have written down in a notepad. I lost both my parents at the ages of 40, and 42. My dad from sleep apnea(he died sunday night, 2 years ago, and was scheduled for surgery 2 hours after he died). And my mom died from smoking on birth control, which completely destroyed her small intestines. That was just a little about my life, anyways, so recently i started banging. Ive been doing opiates for a very long time, and never been sick, or anything. I started doing heroin back in january, once i couldnt find 30s. I went on a full on week-week and a half binge of straight juicing heroin, and never got any sort of dope sickness. Its the same as its always been for me. Not even my mind tells me i want it. I dont get it. Everyone i know got hooked bad after their first couple times doing it, and i have no real want or need to do it, no psychological, no physical. Is it just luck that i dont feel this way, or do you think its legitimately possible i cant get addicted to opiates? I used to sell oxycontin when i was younger, and morphine. I always took a ton of em, every day, for almost a year, and i never got sick once. It just doesnt make sense to me. I am seriously baffled(and extremely grateful) that i am not full on psychologically and physically addicted to heroin. All my friends who do it are all like "you dont get sick cause you dont stop" but its been over a week since that binge, and i feel completely normal.. I never felt different at all. Any opinions would be appreciated. And please, no "youre lying bs" because im honest. I feel like some sort of miracle person.
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Opioids Opinions?
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Some people have less w/d symptoms from opiates.
Every time i've done oxy/h etc I don't get any form of withdrawel even if I do them for a few days, now if i do them for a week or two I get a strong mental craving every day for it. However Morphine for example makes me dead fucking sick the next day after I take it. I don't know why I just feel deathly ill.
For me however which is different, is I get Benzo withdrawels almost instantly, and strongly even after low doses of benzos are administered once, I have panic attacks and the shakes, anxiety, loss of control of my temper, etc. and this usually persists (from one use) for a week after the benzo dose.
Just goes to show, people are different.
But doing H all the time will catch up to you eventually.
Try to use your head bro, I'm sorry you've had a hard life, and I can empathisize because I've lost my family and siblings and whatnot too. But I've managed to stay away from opiates because despite how i feel after taking them, i've seen what extreme damage they can do first hand. Especially when ritually IV'd.
Every time i've done oxy/h etc I don't get any form of withdrawel even if I do them for a few days, now if i do them for a week or two I get a strong mental craving every day for it. However Morphine for example makes me dead fucking sick the next day after I take it. I don't know why I just feel deathly ill.
For me however which is different, is I get Benzo withdrawels almost instantly, and strongly even after low doses of benzos are administered once, I have panic attacks and the shakes, anxiety, loss of control of my temper, etc. and this usually persists (from one use) for a week after the benzo dose.
Just goes to show, people are different.
But doing H all the time will catch up to you eventually.
Try to use your head bro, I'm sorry you've had a hard life, and I can empathisize because I've lost my family and siblings and whatnot too. But I've managed to stay away from opiates because despite how i feel after taking them, i've seen what extreme damage they can do first hand. Especially when ritually IV'd.
blue1995
Bluelighter
Some thoughts... You're fortunate - but life isn't made by luck a good life is made by conscious and consistently smart choices, only. I can empathize with having had a hard time - look around at other people's problems sometimes and you'll cling to your own - at least you know you can survive with what you've got going. I like to think if my young son lost me for whatever reason that he wouldn't turn to the lifestyle to find his place in the world. Not saying this is what you're doing, but somehow as a parent what's good for the goose is NOT OK for the gander. I'm sure your folks don't want to look down and see their child hurting, ever. When you're playing a dangerous game - it's ok to quit while you're ahead. Be safe.
yeah well im not jealous because of the shitty things hes been through but i am jealous about the withdrawal thing. I dont have any explanation for it but i know for sure that one day if you keep it up you will get sick and addicted. no body is immune to it, its just not human to be immune.
missmeyet?
Bluelighter
OP,are you taking anything at all or are you completely off of everything for a week? Can you go longer for a week, say for 2 weeks?
Sorry to hear about your losses and Im glad you decided to start posting.
Sorry to hear about your losses and Im glad you decided to start posting.
bunge
Bluelighter
There could be alot of factors at work here. Maybe you do have a naturally high threshold for addiction but you certainly wont be immune, no-one is immune to dependance.
Like people who use opiates daily for pain, you might not develop psychological dependance but eventually you will become physically dependant. Its not a case of luck, just biological fact.
Im gonna take a wild stab at you also being a poly-drug user as well, could it be that use of other drugs is masking mild withdrawal symptoms?.
Regardless of the reason, i would be careful as you really are playing with fire.
Btw, welcome to Bluelight.
Like people who use opiates daily for pain, you might not develop psychological dependance but eventually you will become physically dependant. Its not a case of luck, just biological fact.
Im gonna take a wild stab at you also being a poly-drug user as well, could it be that use of other drugs is masking mild withdrawal symptoms?.
Regardless of the reason, i would be careful as you really are playing with fire.
Btw, welcome to Bluelight.
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
It takes different amounts of time for different people before they pick up their first habit. Some people develop withdrawal symptoms after using for only a week straight, others a lot longer. It the very beginning, before one picks up their first dependency, it's pretty common that it takes a while. It took me over a month of everyday use before I got strung out.. I've known others who used even longer in the beginning before they picked up a habit. It's different for everyone.
What's for sure though, is that the more you use, the more you get your body used to it, the greater the chance you will become dependent. Nobody is "immune". If you keep using, you will one day wake up with withdrawal symptoms, guaranteed.
So take this as a real lucky break you haven't yet and stop tempting fate. Quit now while you don't have that monkey on your back, because don't kid yourself, it is going to happen.. and then you'll regret not stopping when you had the chance.
What's for sure though, is that the more you use, the more you get your body used to it, the greater the chance you will become dependent. Nobody is "immune". If you keep using, you will one day wake up with withdrawal symptoms, guaranteed.
So take this as a real lucky break you haven't yet and stop tempting fate. Quit now while you don't have that monkey on your back, because don't kid yourself, it is going to happen.. and then you'll regret not stopping when you had the chance.
Slum Survivor
Bluelighter
almost exactly what i was thinking... there just isnt any info out there of certain people being immune to opiate sickness. its physically impossible. unless u have a body/brain/system that is unique. Even then, it would most likely be a defect that others could possibly have. Ive not heard of it... so more than likely Mr.S and most of the others are correct.
doesnt mean your lying either.
exactly. also what i was thinking...
what other meds and drugs do u consume?? food? drink? alcohol? otc meds??
Treefa
Bluelighter
Hey man, i'm a Cody too...I'm also 20.
I haven't lost my parents yet, thank god, Idk what i'm gonna do when they do pass..i'm sorry for your loss, just know they are still alive through you.
Bioindividuality is the idea that everybody's bodily functions, genes, etc etc, vary from person to person. Just like nobody looks or thinks exactly the same.
Perhaps you're fortunate and don't have the specific gene that makes you susceptible to opiate dependence, but from your post, it sounds like your addicted in some strange way.
Non addicts don't move on to heroin when they run out of oxy, generally speaking, although heroin is probably just as safe as oxy.
IME it takes a while to truly develop a physical dependence, and a little less time to develop a habit.
My main drug of abuse is hydrocodone...I can take about 90 in about 2 weeks(I stretch them as long as I can, but have trouble taking the Rx'd amount) and not get that sick..at least nothing a few tramadol can't take care of, and I was taking about 7-8 hydrocodone 10's per day, usually all at one time. However I've spent a week or two on morphine and oxycodone before and I absolutely loved it. I had a bit of a rough time coming off that, with no aids.
So really It all depends on your body, brain, and drug of choice.
Perhaps you are indeed lucky, and God has smiled upon you with good opioid receptors and it is such that you can't be so easily addicted as others. Or perhaps it just takes you a little longer to develop addiction/dependence.
Also keep in mind a lot of people who get addicted right off the bat are sometimes just weak minded and have nothing better to do than persue a drug habit.
Anyways, good luck man.
P.S. Generally speaking, I hate most other people that share my name that I've met in person, but you seem alright haha..maybe your like John Coffee from the green mile and you can touch people and cure opiate addiction!!! If so you better keep it quiet or you'll have a line from Milwaukee to Florida of junkies wanting you to touch them lol.
And I do have a question about your opiate use, how is your tolerance??
do you seem to develop less of a tolerance than your other friends who use roughly the same amount? or do you have tolerance, but just no addiction??
I haven't lost my parents yet, thank god, Idk what i'm gonna do when they do pass..i'm sorry for your loss, just know they are still alive through you.
Bioindividuality is the idea that everybody's bodily functions, genes, etc etc, vary from person to person. Just like nobody looks or thinks exactly the same.
Perhaps you're fortunate and don't have the specific gene that makes you susceptible to opiate dependence, but from your post, it sounds like your addicted in some strange way.
Non addicts don't move on to heroin when they run out of oxy, generally speaking, although heroin is probably just as safe as oxy.
IME it takes a while to truly develop a physical dependence, and a little less time to develop a habit.
My main drug of abuse is hydrocodone...I can take about 90 in about 2 weeks(I stretch them as long as I can, but have trouble taking the Rx'd amount) and not get that sick..at least nothing a few tramadol can't take care of, and I was taking about 7-8 hydrocodone 10's per day, usually all at one time. However I've spent a week or two on morphine and oxycodone before and I absolutely loved it. I had a bit of a rough time coming off that, with no aids.
So really It all depends on your body, brain, and drug of choice.
Perhaps you are indeed lucky, and God has smiled upon you with good opioid receptors and it is such that you can't be so easily addicted as others. Or perhaps it just takes you a little longer to develop addiction/dependence.
Also keep in mind a lot of people who get addicted right off the bat are sometimes just weak minded and have nothing better to do than persue a drug habit.
Anyways, good luck man.
P.S. Generally speaking, I hate most other people that share my name that I've met in person, but you seem alright haha..maybe your like John Coffee from the green mile and you can touch people and cure opiate addiction!!! If so you better keep it quiet or you'll have a line from Milwaukee to Florida of junkies wanting you to touch them lol.
And I do have a question about your opiate use, how is your tolerance??
do you seem to develop less of a tolerance than your other friends who use roughly the same amount? or do you have tolerance, but just no addiction??
missmeyet?
Bluelighter
Well, I guess you are entitled to state what you feel is your opinion Treefa but to say that most people "who get addicted right off the bat are sometimes just weak minded and have nothing better to do than pursue (not persue) a drug habit." Is completely incorrect and totally unfair. I'm sure many people with a physical dependence on opiates/opioids will totally be offended by that statement. It has absolutely nothing to do with being weak minded and everything to do physical and biological functions.
bennyZA
Bluelighter
I don't get opiate withdrawals besides insomnia and if I really binge I get noticeable, but totally tolerable, RLS. This is even after methadone, suboxone, and fent use. All long term, round the clock.
downfallin
Bluelighter
Lucky........Well, damn. Your lucky. That`s insane.
MoreFeens4Morphine
Bluelighter
Has addiction ever run in your family? My birth mother was a heavy drug abuser, and her mother was a heavy drug abuser, and now I am a heavy drug abuser who has never gone into opiate/alcohol/amphetamine withdrawals. The only withdrawals I have experienced are benzo withdrawals, which are exponentially worse than opiate WDs.
Yeah you guys are way awesome. Thanks for all the opinions. All the input is more than appreciated, along with the condolences. I actually have only done boy twice since this post, and as far as using other drugs while off heroin/opiates, no. I don't smoke weed, I don't roll any more, I absolutely hate uppers, and I'm against the recreational use of benzos. Heroin is the absolute only drug I intake, I don't even drink alcohol. Also, I know for a fact that you guys are right, of course using heroin regularly will eventually lead to a full addiction, I guess my threshold is just higher than most. This was by far my most anticipated forum post ever, I couldn't wait to hear the answers, and I had forgotten I posted it!
dopemaster
Bluelight Crew
I think you will get sick sooner or later. It took a while for me to develop a physical dependence but once I did it became pretty unpleasant.
You are still very young and you just started shooting. With the needle you will progress faster.
When you do start getting sick, it will typically get worse each time. Some people don't get as sick, but you will eventually if you keep it up. I used to always wonder why my friends used to get more sick than me until I started to get sick.
Each kick is worse than the last, so keep that in mind if you decide to clean up. I remember the first time I kicked my habit I felt like I could do it again easily and whenever I wanted. Now I find it very difficult to cease using opiates.
Its a real bitch because I don't really get into abusing opiates and get them for pain and I get sick all the time between doses. I never can really catch a buzz and if I do you would be amazed at just how fleeting it is.
I would say I used to get more out of a oxycodone 5/325 orally than I get off of 60 mgs of oxycodone IV now.
I could say get out now why you can, but I am sure you know what you are getting yourself in to. I hope you do, cuz it leads absolutely no where and does fuck all for you life.
You are still very young and you just started shooting. With the needle you will progress faster.
When you do start getting sick, it will typically get worse each time. Some people don't get as sick, but you will eventually if you keep it up. I used to always wonder why my friends used to get more sick than me until I started to get sick.
Each kick is worse than the last, so keep that in mind if you decide to clean up. I remember the first time I kicked my habit I felt like I could do it again easily and whenever I wanted. Now I find it very difficult to cease using opiates.
Its a real bitch because I don't really get into abusing opiates and get them for pain and I get sick all the time between doses. I never can really catch a buzz and if I do you would be amazed at just how fleeting it is.
I would say I used to get more out of a oxycodone 5/325 orally than I get off of 60 mgs of oxycodone IV now.
I could say get out now why you can, but I am sure you know what you are getting yourself in to. I hope you do, cuz it leads absolutely no where and does fuck all for you life.
Thanks. I know exactly what you mean. But l mean its been a while since I've even done it, I'm getting 20$ tomorrow, and that'll get me faded twice, and then I'll be clean for a couple weeks. That's how it goes. I don't and have no viable way to get money, so that's a partial reason as to why I'm so good at now getting deep into the pit of opiate addiction(bear in mind i have had larger somes of money and gone on multiple week fade binges). Idk though, I'm going to stop use of opiates completely sooner or later, because if I do end up coming across a bit of money, I will end up getting addicted, especially not knowing my breaking point.
seattle2013
Greenlighter
I wish haha
mrflowers00
Ex-Bluelighter
it sounds like you're suffering from severe depression