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Opiates or stims more euphoria for you? Which do you prefer?

When swim comes across crushable oxycodone in Canada I usually grab 1 and a Xanax and curl up in my bed with a good movie or listen to music nothing better then the comfort and warmth from the two mixed.
 
Some good amphetamine is more euphoric, even too strong, you cant get much stuff done then. But with opioids if you dont take nod doses, you feel alright and can live normal life. So yes for me at least amphetamine gives much stronger euphoria, but then again Im not really after euphoria just to feel all right.
 
I am an IV user of anything. I have slammed meth, heroin, cocaine, crack cocaine, fentanyl, oxys, MDMA, adderall, and opanas. Each chemical has its own flavor as I like to call it.

The most intense euphoria I have ever experienced with one chemical....(Drum roll please!) Is powder cocaine. I feel like i bust a nut when I pick up a gram of fish scale, put about .3 in a spoon mix it up and if it is clear you know your getting your bell ringed. Draw the coke into my rig, find a nice vein, tie off, register and push coke in the vein.

ABout ten seconds after, you should get a VERY noticeable cocaine taste and smell. After thirty seconds your body will feel as if your trying to hang on to rocket going to space while gongs are being rung in your ear.

That's my choice good old' cocaine.... nothing like it, the most classic drug.
 
Pill2Chill said:
Meth had the strongest and most intense euphoria, maybe aside from MDMA, but MDMA's other effects are quite intense too. With meth I was able to enjoy the body rush much more than with MDMA because it didn't make me start rolling (obviously), so I basically only felt the 'full body orgasmic' feeling and the stimulation. MDMA offers those effects as well, but is more distracting because it also makes you 'kind of' trip (nothing like LSD, but there's a lot of distortion in my visual field on MDMA), therefore I think meth's euphoria was stronger and 'cleaner' than that of MDMA.

So, in short; Meth produces euphoria that is quite a bit stronger than the euphoria opiates give me. BUT, the reason I still prefer opiates BY FAR, is meth's many side effects. After a while that initial euphoria wears off, but you remain stimulated as fuck for a long time. During that time, the stimulation can even become annoying at some point. Because it will still be very present, and you will be wired as fuck. But the actual euphoria will be gone by that point. And redosing just doesn't work that well with uppers IMO. Every time I redose I start noticing some more side-effects that I would also get if you just didn't redose and came back down immediately instead of redosing.. But each time I decide to redose anyway those side-effects become stronger and more annoying.

That's why I prefer opiates' euphoria by FAR. You can keep an opiate high going as long as you have opiates, there is no come-down or crash after a single use. Also, opiate's euphoria, while less intense, is far more mellow and relaxed. I like feeling mellow and relaxed. With stimulants I always feel like I get a high, and then I have to pay for getting high by feeling shitty as hell. The longer I keep the high going, the shittier I'll feel. With opiates, there is never a comedown. Of course opiates are physically addictive, which is its own kind of hell. But at least you don't have to go through a period of feeling like total crap every time you decide to dose up, and I do get that from stimulants.


So, when we're strictly speaking about the strength of the euphoria I'd have to say meth is the winner,
but (by far) my favorite kind of euphoria is opiates'.
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Soooooo true about meth...Take 10 huge hits from a glass pipe on a Wednesday and you're on your feet until Saturday with no desire to eat sleep or drink water....fuck that shit...My favorite stim is high dose adderall mixed with G and benzos
 
well MDMA just beats out anything in the case of pure euphoria but although it is a stimulant I don't really consider it one, it's more of a psychedelic.

Opiates completely blow stims out of the water, although the only stims I've had are propylhexedrine (most euphoric stim besides MDMA), adderal, and Ritalin.
 
It's common sense, all the Positives of stimulants are present Within Opiates, without negatives. The Euphoria will last significantly longer without comedowns when beginning opiates.

Stimulants only benefit is less addictive and less getting "hooked". They are addictive, but not nearly as opiates.

If your serious about drugs being in your life in the long term because you don't care or are treating an atypical mental condition, opiates are the way to go IF you can get them prescribed/are rich and smart and can afford them indefinitely.

I am only a Dexedrine user because no doctor is writing opiates for adhd/hyperactivedepression /SA/chronic stress at my age, and I am unsure if I want a drug that's "too good" compared to regular potential happiness.

It's unfortunate though, for all of human history Opiates were used to make people function and feel normal because it was accessible.

In 1890, historians say 50-90% of the middle/upperclass of America Injected Morphine multiple times a day.

Oh yeah here's one more thing: stimulants are Abuse deterrant because your guaranteed to feel like sheeyat. Opiates hook you because theres no reason to not keep doing opiates if you have an indefinite supply and its helping your mood.
 
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hangyourhead said:
Opioids are more euphoric than stimulants because euphoric stims usually rely purely on the rush often IV ROA and opioids have a blissful high, energy (thebaine-derivatives), or a hedonistic nod, but on par with MDMA/MDA (not spiritually or therapeutically).

Euphoric opioids: IV hydromorphone, oxymorphone, IV fentanyl, IV heroin/morphine, methadone.

Euphoric stims: IV bk-MDMA/methylone, IV d-methamphetamine, d-amphetamine, IV high-grade cocaine,

Other major euphoriants: temazepam, carisoprodol, IV MXE, IV s-ketamine,
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Yeah WHY do stimulants feel SO SO different when they are kicking in vs once they kicked in.

I feel like the euphoria of oral amps as they kick in is extremely mellow but it starts to confuse me as soon as it kicks in and feel bored?
 
Ikr iv cocaine is a whole new level but i think it is the best and the worst at the same time. The inevitable shitty comedown plus it doesnt last more than 30 mins you have to bang like 10-20 times in one sess.the only stim i like id MDMA hands down nothing like rolling your tits offf some bomb pills. On the other hand i would prefer some iv morphine over stims,nothing can beat the rush and the perfect peaceful contentment everything is gonna be ok feeling that opiates give you.
 
Opiates hit helpful receptors.

amphetamines target only half the helpful stuff, and replace the other half of it with adrenaline.

I would say though,

First amp (any type) > first any other drug.
 
Honestly, I use both stims and opiates on a daily basis for different reasons. The euphoria is different but equal. I'm absolutely worthless without a stim but use opiates more for recreation, so I guess I'll say opiates are more "fun" for me. Oxy and hydro are roughly equal in terms of good feelz. After 14 years of near-daily use, the same dose still gets me feeling good--that goes for both stims and opiates. No idea why this is the case, but I'm not complaining. ;)

Stim euphoria = electric, confident & passionate.

Opiate euphoria = tranquil, warm & heavenly.

Two sides of the same coin.
 
Lady Codone said:
Honestly, I use both stims and opiates on a daily basis for different reasons. The euphoria is different but equal. I'm absolutely worthless without a stim but use opiates more for recreation, so I guess I'll say opiates are more "fun" for me. Oxy and hydro are roughly equal in terms of good feelz. After 14 years of near-daily use, the same dose still gets me feeling good--that goes for both stims and opiates. No idea why this is the case, but I'm not complaining. ;)

Stim euphoria = electric, confident & passionate.

Opiate euphoria = tranquil, warm & heavenly.

Two sides of the same coin.
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I've found a way to word this to my satisfaction: opioids are purely hedonistic and don't require anything to occupy your time to enhance the euphoria (e.g. IV oxymorphone you can stare at a fucking wall and be completely satisfied with life and where you are.

On the other hand, the most euphoric stimulants/amphetamines require some type of activity to fulfill the euphoriant properties (i.e. masturbation/porn, Bluelight.org, drawing, learning, empathogenic situations such as deeply, personal conversation or sex, or even building/creating something). With the exception of a huge IV shot of crystal methamphetamine where you are stuck, (as a male, dick rock hard without physical stimulation), in a state of overwhelming bliss and stimulation.

MDMA/MDA/MDE is magic beyond the hedonistic pleasures of street drugs.
 
MDA + MDMA was the most euphoric stimulating experience i've had.

amphetamine euphoria isn't as rewarding as opioid/opiate euphoria IMO.

uppers make me fiendy and only social or taxing tasks become more enjoyable..

the opiate/opioid hazey dreamy sedation and body high make me more content with doing nothing.
 
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