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Opioids Opiates not working?

someone12345

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Hi,

For the last four years I haven't been indulging in opiates because they do not seem to work correctly for me. I become very jealous when I read about friends and other enthusiasts "nodding out" and riding that razor thin line between the most orgasmic rush they ever felt and passing out.

I have tried taking opiates on several occasions and for some reason they do not seem to make me "feel good".

An experience with 30mg Oxycodone left me nauseous and puking for 2 hours

An experience with 90mg Codeine left me nauseous for 6 hours

A few more experiences with Oxycodone just left me feeling "slow" but no euphoria as others describe. Can anyone shed some light on this? I know that a small percentage of the population lacks a specific enzyme but I do recall one instance where I took 60mg codeine and felt really good; so I must have something. Any suggestions for how I can approach opiates without getting sick and getting that euphoria?
 
Consider yourself lucky that they aren't providing you with any euphoria and just don't take them again.. Hah. I wish I didn't like them.

In reality, it's not uncommon for the first handful of someones opiate experiences to be unpleasant.. it does get better though.. but.. take my word for it.. you don't want to develop a love affair with opiates. Take this as a sign and don't bother with them again. You'll thank yourself later.
 
Yeah for real I kinda wish opiates never worked on me. i wouldnt have a dui and a theft on my record and could actually get a job. Having mental illness that can result in getting disability seems to be my only choice.
 
Yeah for real I kinda wish opiates never worked on me. i wouldnt have a dui and a theft on my record and could actually get a job. Having mental illness that can result in getting disability seems to be my only choice.

Got the same issues on my hands without the opiates so I figure introducing something new to the mix wont hurt...

Guess I'll start slow and try messing with codeine?
 
Opiates is the kind of drug you learn to love (and hate) the more you take it, I think. I wasn't exactly overwhelmed by pleasure either the first time I took opiates (was 150mg tramadol I believe). Neither was I the first time I tried smoking heroin. You need to experiment a while to find the "sweet spot" with opiates when being opiate-naive. Too much will just result in being drenched in sweat while nauseated and too little will leave you wondering what the fuzz is all about. It takes a few times with each new opiate you try to find that "perfect" dosing, the one that makes you nod but doesn't make you feel nauseated and dizzy. This is alot harder when you are not used to the drug, I haven't gotten sick from taking too much opiates for years since I'm so used to them.
 
Opiates is the kind of drug you learn to love (and hate) the more you take it, I think. I wasn't exactly overwhelmed by pleasure either the first time I took opiates (was 150mg tramadol I believe). Neither was I the first time I tried smoking heroin. You need to experiment a while to find the "sweet spot" with opiates when being opiate-naive. Too much will just result in being drenched in sweat while nauseated and too little will leave you wondering what the fuzz is all about. It takes a few times with each new opiate you try to find that "perfect" dosing, the one that makes you nod but doesn't make you feel nauseated and dizzy. This is alot harder when you are not used to the drug, I haven't gotten sick from taking too much opiates for years since I'm so used to them.

Ahh okay. This makes sense.

I actually had some tramadol on hand a few weeks ago and I honestly didn't feel anything other than its SNRI effect. (250mg-350mg); I chalked it up to being a really weak opiate (if at all).

I guess I just have to keep trying and grow into it
 
I guess I just have to keep trying and grow into it

Why the hell would you want to grow into something knowing its extreme addiction potential? You're forcing yourself to continue taking drugs that don't even make you feel good with the hope that one day they will? Why would you willingly force yourself into a possible and probably life altering addiction?
 
i wish they'd have never worked on me either, i wouldn't be 29 and working in a grocery store just to get the insurance to pay for my suboxone. and still craving the bastards. sad sad world. get out while you still can!
 
^ Yes, like Mr Scagnatti said, I understand wanting the euphoria and all but it seems obvious opiates just don't agree with you, why risk addiction and all its attendant dangers for a class of drugs that may never even be fun? I'd consider it a positive sign your system keeps rejecting an opiate high, it's telling you don't go there
 
Why the hell would you want to grow into something knowing its extreme addiction potential? You're forcing yourself to continue taking drugs that don't even make you feel good with the hope that one day they will? Why would you willingly force yourself into a possible and probably life altering addiction?

Opiates seem far more enjoyable than the other drugs I am currently dabbling in. I have to come to terms with the possibility that my substance abuse isn't getting any better. I might as well enjoy it with a class of drugs that wont destroy me as quick
 
Opiates seem far more enjoyable than the other drugs I am currently dabbling in. I have to come to terms with the possibility that my substance abuse isn't getting any better. I might as well enjoy it with a class of drugs that wont destroy me as quick

If whatever drugs you are doing aren't enjoyable... why the hell are you doing any of them? And if you think opiates aren't among a class of drugs that will destroy you quick.. you are severely mistaken.
 
To enjoy opiates comes addiction or at least experience. When I was non-tolerent DHC made me sick and wasnt fun, Heroin Snorted was alright I was at a level if I take more I will overdose so I FELT is that it?

First time on OxyContin 20mg (CRUSHED ORAL) was morphineyand meh (waste of money) I gave it another shot but 40m later I snorted 10mg and the rush was amazing I WENT insane and cleaned up and had no control over wasting time - the stimuation was amazing. 3-5 day later i did more it was nice but not stimmy.

I was addicted to gbl at the time 24/7er and everytime I detoxed off for 2-3 days I would wind up back on it - I (in the end) I thought I am swapping this so I detoxed but played with OC 2-3x 80's at a day mostly nasal. Fast forward I got seriously addicted blowing £300-£400 a week. Then came Heroin which I got fairly pure from a good source I loved it so much - I snorted 15-20mg then the high died then came the needle. By god this wasnt going back again this was better than ever - the good thing was I couldn't get addicted to H as it was hard to source this came from overseas, etc

I used Bupe too (non-scripted) till I got into Bupe-MT - bupe was nice 1-2mg for a nice buzz, lower addiction level but once you're scripted it and taking daily it locks. There is no "feel" back then I wanted it but today back on bupe I a, glad it's like that. I jumped between 6mg and 8mg. With 8mg numbin it a tad, My use wasnt as bad but still I was using. Then came local heroin sourcng, at first I never understood the rush but I wound up on that moved to mdone clean for a month - loved it but then it died down and I used. TOo hard geting it upped so after the year of 40mg done MMT but using 30-40mg later or heroin I went back to bupe. This time I wanted off. I Went upto 16mg at the first few mongrs there were problems till I upped further 24mg and after 2 week I driooed as fast as I could to 16 mg.

Problem woth opiates is craving THAT HIT
+ feeeling normal

2 reasons people use becase they want to feel straigtened out, not in wd or if they are on stims something to comedown on or hold back when speeedballin'

and chasing that high in your head you have them few times it was amazing. LIke my OC experience, another two where i skipped my 16mg and 36hr later did a 4bag shot (NEVER DO THIS AMOUNT) the rush was crazy and stumlating but i never expected it but I dived in the shower and had tea, Another was 2 bags after 11 day clean (just bupe). There's been quick a few "proper hits. NOW this sounds I am glameriousing it - I aint what I am saying is whenever I use I THINK about all them real good hits and nor of the bad ones this is another awy Heroin LIES to you.

Opiates are evil and they lie to you.

"i wont get addicted to heroin because my mate from London just gets some weight every two months and lets me have some so I CAN'T" - So you take the plunge and use his gear and you are right you can't and it's "soo awesome?" what happens in a year if theres local guy with it or another source? Even worse what about him being a pusher?

"opiates aren't harmful or dangerious" - Ignore this, they aren't toxic I agree and the damage is preventable due to hr edu. but Heroin is lying to you it'll fuck you in other ways. You will change when you hang with mr H, you might be nice but you might be a twat to people for no reason, Heroin will dangle you like a puppet when you have no opiates, you will put yoursekf and others at risk for that drug, you can't go out with friends or work becaus a fucking bag of powder said so.

as a younger using heroin (whist gbl dependent) I couldn't imagine getting hooked on Cocaine how can somenoe just blow all that money? similer with H but buying h you get small tenner bags so it feels cheap but with tolerence you can blow £100's. For the record yesterday and the day before I spend £200 I never "got that rush either" - maybe next time. In US dollar it is = 100k opiates have taken from me I just about afford it I don't buy anything for myself on purpose unless I stay of the gear then I treat myself.

Now now i am on bupe 16mg daily and NO need to use but my triggers are 1) stimulents - I need my sleep sorting and STOP fucking about with stims because when I stay up that next morning I'll score so I am stashing them all away from here. 2) needle fixation, when I see blood fill a syringe its beautiful that alone can make me use.

Please try and avoid these drugs, they play ball then rape you later. IF YOU MUST use opiates try the lower level ones:

bupe can be nice keep the dose low and dont push up later or you get just side effects
codiene/dhc
poppy pods - no exp with but you might be able to control them
morphine, used to use MSCONTINS was alright but never found addictive oral.
Tramadol
Kratom

Then on the riskier scale
Methadone pills - is probably quite good I hear from low-med tol's. I used it for MMT but methadone is VERY DANGERIOUS and takes near 2hr to peak you might die if you;re not careful. I used to double dose my script and tried high doses the high was alright but I was IVing

+ OxyContin/Heroin - younger people like to snort so OC you can sniff more and stay like that. Some H you can snort #4 it has tob be in the us in the UK it;s smokable - Heroin tends to get people on the needle quick but dont think OC is any better the only pros are pure pills, pharma produced and the lesser chance of IVing. Personal exp OC is good for low-med tolerents as you can bomb/snort IVing it I found weak Heroin tends to be snort/smoke (depends on person and gear) and IVing is a huger move up. IVing street drugs can really mess you. EVEN PILLS infact READ tinyurl.com/bluelightcs LINK SHOULD WORK it's the case studies.

Addiction is more to do with HOW easy it is to get and other factors. A friend I know buys heroin hes an addict too he can get for HIS friends and they are always after some, he makes near nothing on it since its getting for someone plus coke+h are two most targeted drugs I told him if you must just per 2 month or summit since you are thier only source so you can control thier addiction (ie, not getting them hooked) he will only get them some once in a awhile so they dont get hooked amd only in smal amounts, they smoke it since they have low-0 tol it works but he isnt a dealer out to make money on it or if you are rattling pretty bad he makes an exection like when I was out of script and it was dry locally.

Infact Imight make a thread on stunts dealers pull.
 
I am hesitant to say this, because I really want to discourage you from using opioids, but some people find certain opioids don't do much for them (other than maybe cause side effects) while other opioids work (metabolism differences). But seriously, just stay away from them. They are NOT worth the risk of addiction.
 
If whatever drugs you are doing aren't enjoyable... why the hell are you doing any of them? And if you think opiates aren't among a class of drugs that will destroy you quick.. you are severely mistaken.

Well i can relate, i really tried to enjoy weed many times but it never worked. You keep try because you feel like you are being cheated out of something everybody else gets to enjoy. Its unfair. Maybe if you tweak this and that it will work the next time... And so on and so forth
 
I am hesitant to say this, because I really want to discourage you from using opioids, but some people find certain opioids don't do much for them (other than maybe cause side effects) while other opioids work (metabolism differences). But seriously, just stay away from them. They are NOT worth the risk of addiction.

I honestly think the risks of H are the glowing beacon drawing in all the moths. I mean logic tells us that if others accept the consequences and keep on going, its got to be really damn good right, big risks big rewards. How can i miss out on that experience? Ill just try it once, i wont get addicted, and another one bites the bliss
 
Hey someone,
i agree with the above mate's opinion-advice, don't mess with opiates, fuck them, there are a lot lot better things in life, why should you ruin it with fucking opiates?:?
Listen to mr.scagnattie, he speaks wise, and the other Bl mates too. Stay away from the shit, our life is too precious and short to spend it...just stay away from the fuckin shit, and i tell you for sure my friend, you will never regret it..;).100% sure..:)


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