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Opiates Help!

toastedpanda said:
I don't want to give the impression I'm the one exception either I very well could end up in the deep end with the sharks before I even realize I crossed the line.
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i have 2 friends that were doing oxys or percs 2 or 3 times a month for 2 years & they completely stopped using. They said it was a phase & they are over it.
 
cire113 said:
if you want to live a miserable life and kill yourself go ahead and do opiates...

thats all that happens
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People kill themselves every day w/o being addicted to opiates or any other drugs. Oxy can give you an addiction & make you feel miserable but if theres a choice between doing yourself in by a gun because you're depressed or becoming an opiate addict because you're depressed, I will gladly take the latter.

At least you're alive & getting high but possibly miserable instead of 6 feet under.

Not saying this is my situation but you get my point!
 
erm toasted panda i think you are misinformed re your comment about going on the methadone program and to be high all day, im on the program and may i say you are most certainly NOT high all day. You feel normal after the first couple of months or so from regular dosing.
 
I know how the methadone program works I was saying I would personally make sure I would be high all day with the "help" of methadone. 30mg would give me a strong buzz without blocking other opiates so I could shoot 30mg of morphine on top that. It was just an idea I know people stabalize after taking the same dose consistantly. I could never go the clinic route anyways cause of my job and traveling for it.
 
TheLostBoys said:
i have 2 friends that were doing oxys or percs 2 or 3 times a month for 2 years & they completely stopped using. They said it was a phase & they are over it.
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How often does that happen tho? Not that often. IME most people start using more frequently and it becomes Increasingly hard for them to stop. Yes, you can stop, but is it that often that people can resist it? No.

What i am trying to say i guess is, depends on frequency of use, history of abuse, and the right taste for the drug. i know some kids that dont f with opiates cause they dont like how it makes them feel. so ya, not EVERYONE will get addicted. but the people who do like it, and dont stop early, WILL.

For example. I have abused opiates for 2 or 3 years. The last 6 months i went from a twice a month habbit to a daily binge and it got pretty bad. just when i started realizing my tolerance went up, i decided to quit.. Was hard as shit and i caved. no W/D's but the cravings were there and the pills were just too easy to get.. finally i was able to shake it cause i deleted the numbers from my phone of the dudes that had them. almost been two weeks since ive seen a pill.

So ya its possible to quit, but only for the certain person who has self control and the needed discipline. Distractions help the best.
 
toastedpanda said:
I don't feel that opiates are queit an "all or nothing" drug, there perscribed on temperary basis all the time, and recreational use can be maintained for some, of all the people I know most do take opiates once or twice a month none are nor ever have been addicted. Myself I use a bit more often once a week usually. Was less often in the past but still that's my general pattern for half a decade now....
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I'm the same. I would say I've used more often in the last year than earlier in life, but that my use has always been pretty much under control. I'm talking years here.

Even if I only use a couple times a week, I start to go to a dark place that I don't like. Being high on anything too often makes me lose touch with reality. Opiates, like anything else are definitely a recreational drug to be used in extreme moderation, or as prescribed for pain.

I definitely have an addictive personality, but it's all about self-control, discipline and keeping a light state of mind.
 
i've been addicted to opiates for many years, and have had a few yrs. sober too. quitting is the hardest thing i've ever done. and STAYING quit is even harder!! everyone who has posted has said the same thing i would say, so i don't want to be redundant here, just be really careful, b/c i have found that my addiction is stronger than my ability to stop.
there's another element to your post that i don't know if anyone has commented on, so have youever thought about this??....that is, the LEGAL ramifications of getting caught? you work as a pharmacy tech? OMG! that would be the kiss of death for me! i would literally steal all that i could, any way that i could, and i would no-doubt end up doing hard time, sitting at the "gray bar" for a very long time. so, that's where my "disease" would take me!
many, many times i have these fabulous dreams of being in a pharmacy all alone, and grabbing bottle after bottle of lorcet percs, oxy's, opanas, dilly's, tussi-syrup, etc...!!
the "kid in the candy store" for sure! but at least today, i'm not willing to put myself in that situation, as that is a slippery-slope for me...
i actually did 4 years of felony probation for altering scripts, and am so lucky to have made it through and not be in jail. and then i had my record sealed so that i don't have a felony on my record. but, really, stop while you're ahead. you don't want the consequences, trust me, i'm a lot older than you, and the only reason i'm not using opiates right now is my lack of money to get them, but i crave all the time. it's been years of a wild and crazy roller coaster ride, and i don't know if i would have turned the other way if someone had warned me, probably not....but i wish that i had, cuz drugs, (specifically opiates) have robbed my life of so much potential in everyway...yep, be very careful, ok? peace
 
it's a damn slippery slope thats for fucking sure...be careful and increase the amount of time between your bingers
 
I find the best way to keep tolerance low is to not binge at all.

Have a fun night, then cut it out for a while.
 
if you love opiates, and youre occasionally doing something like oxy, youre going to slowly start doing it more and more. then youll start doing it everyday. then it will be too expensive. then youll start snorting heroin. then snorting will be a waste. then youll start shooting the dope.

i have to tell people this all the time on this site, honestly it seems like 3 times a day. stop now. you cannot use recreationally if you love opiates, you will most likely spiral out of control. every dead end junky was at one point where you are now.

this doesnt happen to every single person who loves opiates, some handle themselves well. but a vast majority, especially the ones that try to come up with plans like "only once a month" slowly use more and more.
 
I feel in love during my first experience. I am one of those prime examples where psychological addiction escalated to a horrendous physical dependence. I don't have regrets though. What I went through made me the man I am today. I am grateful to be a recovering heroin addict.
 
iswearimallgood said:
How often does that happen tho? Not that often. IME most people start using more frequently and it becomes Increasingly hard for them to stop. Yes, you can stop, but is it that often that people can resist it? No.

What i am trying to say i guess is, depends on frequency of use, history of abuse, and the right taste for the drug. i know some kids that dont f with opiates cause they dont like how it makes them feel. so ya, not EVERYONE will get addicted. but the people who do like it, and dont stop early, WILL.

For example. I have abused opiates for 2 or 3 years. The last 6 months i went from a twice a month habbit to a daily binge and it got pretty bad. just when i started realizing my tolerance went up, i decided to quit.. Was hard as shit and i caved. no W/D's but the cravings were there and the pills were just too easy to get.. finally i was able to shake it cause i deleted the numbers from my phone of the dudes that had them. almost been two weeks since ive seen a pill.

So ya its possible to quit, but only for the certain person who has self control and the needed discipline. Distractions help the best.
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Ive tried oxycodone/oxycontin & done it several times. I actually liked the old formulation OC's because they gave me a warm feel good high when I would chew 5 or 10mgs. The new Op's & plain oxycodone & roxi pills dont do it for me for some reason. I can take them for a couple of days & just get this feeling like, nah, they suck, I dont want them anymore. Maybe theres something wrong with me but I dont like oxycodone.

I prefer hydrocodone & even morphine over oxy. Of course I use hydrocodone precribed for my back pain but I see people in love with oxy, like go crazy over it & I just dont understand the big hoopla over it, at least for me because I dont get "ANY" euphoria over these new OP's or roxis. I guess its a good thing.
 
iswearimallgood said:
How often does that happen tho? Not that often. IME most people start using more frequently and it becomes Increasingly hard for them to stop. Yes, you can stop, but is it that often that people can resist it? No.

What i am trying to say i guess is, depends on frequency of use, history of abuse, and the right taste for the drug. i know some kids that dont f with opiates cause they dont like how it makes them feel. so ya, not EVERYONE will get addicted. but the people who do like it, and dont stop early, WILL.

For example. I have abused opiates for 2 or 3 years. The last 6 months i went from a twice a month habbit to a daily binge and it got pretty bad. just when i started realizing my tolerance went up, i decided to quit.. Was hard as shit and i caved. no W/D's but the cravings were there and the pills were just too easy to get.. finally i was able to shake it cause i deleted the numbers from my phone of the dudes that had them. almost been two weeks since ive seen a pill.

So ya its possible to quit, but only for the certain person who has self control and the needed discipline. Distractions help the best.
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im sorry man, but two weeks really aint anything..thats just the start. now the PAWS start , thats the hard part. congrats on the two weeks thoug. but dont get cocky and think you have the habit quit. ive thought that many times..

ive been addicted for 5 years now been to rehab three times. i havent gotten anything accomplished in the past five years its like im still 18 when your addicted you just stagnant , you dont mature you dont grow you just stop. you lose your passion for anything, you lose your integrity you lose your health and you lose your dignity. its the worst fucking addiction in the world. i am so mad that i got myself in this position and i know i need to stop to be happy but i dont, its called INSANITY doing something over and over expecting different results. no matter how good my life is going when i try and get clean, i still go back to using. its fucked up man, its pathetic , its sad, and its not a way to live. i feel sorry for anyone who is addicted opiates. opiates are no joke and should be taken of the market for sure. opiates are a plague and will eventually kill our youthes passion. ive seen so many people get clean and healthy thinking they are safe, two months later they are shooting up again and then dead or in prison. STAY THE FUCK AWAY BRO. i wish heard this when i was in your shoes.
 
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DrinksWithEvil said:
im sorry man, but two weeks really aint anything..thats just the start. now the PAWS start , thats the hard part. congrats on the two weeks thoug. but dont get cocky and think you have the habit quit. ive thought that many times..

ive been addicted for 5 years now been to rehab three times. i havent gotten anything accomplished in the past five years its like im still 18 when your addicted you just stagnant , you dont mature you dont grow you just stop. you lose your passion for anything, you lose your integrity you lose your health and you lose your dignity. its the worst fucking addiction in the world. i am so mad that i got myself in this position and i know i need to stop to be happy but i dont, its called INSANITY doing something over and over expecting different results. no matter how good my life is going when i try and get clean, i still go back to using. its fucked up man, its pathetic , its sad, and its not a way to live. i feel sorry for anyone who is addicted opiates. opiates are no joke and should be taken of the market for sure. opiates are a plague and will eventually kill our youthes passion. ive seen so many people get clean and healthy thinking they are safe, two months later they are shooting up again and then dead or in prison. STAY THE FUCK AWAY BRO. i wish heard this when i was in your shoes.
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Noted. I have to restart now... unfortunately. i know how fucked up it is. its unreal. two weeks isnt shit.
 
DrinksWithEvil said:
im sorry man, but two weeks really aint anything..thats just the start. now the PAWS start , thats the hard part. congrats on the two weeks thoug. but dont get cocky and think you have the habit quit. ive thought that many times..

ive been addicted for 5 years now been to rehab three times. i havent gotten anything accomplished in the past five years its like im still 18 when your addicted you just stagnant , you dont mature you dont grow you just stop. you lose your passion for anything, you lose your integrity you lose your health and you lose your dignity. its the worst fucking addiction in the world. i am so mad that i got myself in this position and i know i need to stop to be happy but i dont, its called INSANITY doing something over and over expecting different results. no matter how good my life is going when i try and get clean, i still go back to using. its fucked up man, its pathetic , its sad, and its not a way to live. i feel sorry for anyone who is addicted opiates. opiates are no joke and should be taken of the market for sure. opiates are a plague and will eventually kill our youthes passion. ive seen so many people get clean and healthy thinking they are safe, two months later they are shooting up again and then dead or in prison. STAY THE FUCK AWAY BRO. i wish heard this when i was in your shoes.
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I hope you can get clean my friend but I dont think opiates should be taken off the market. Opiates are a blessing to a lot of people that really need pain meds for their physical pains. To some people, opiates are the only thing keeping them alive because of how terrible their lives are enduring physical pain.

For people that are addicted to opiates & are using them strictly to get high, its a different story. Im pretty sure I would never have tried opiates if I didnt have back pain.


Thank goodness I dont like oxycodone, for some reason it doesnt do it for me, I hate the speediness it brings along with the high.
 
^^ What TLB said

I was one who got my life back due to opiates (to deal with my pain).
 
Seems like everyone here knows what they are talking about and the OP probably gets the point. Opiates are terrible for some people but helpful for others. Thread closed.
 
I started w/ opiates when I was a pharmacy tech also. I got hooked so fast. I have detoxed alone and w/ meds in the psych ward, been on mmt and suboxone all in the past 12 years! I now know that I need to stop completely! Nothing else helped me so I'm going to try to be honest and stop all together. Good luck :)
 
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