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Opiates are pretty hard to get high with :l

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J.Wallace said:
Honestly, I find it disgusting how some people are giving you advice on how to get high from Opiates. Their one of, if not the most addictive substances around. As much as I fucking love them, I would never want to introduce them to somebody, or help someone get addicted to them.
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This is a Harm Reduction message board. An individual is going to do what they're going to do - it's our mission to be here to help people do that safely. Not providing information (like Sephyr says) would be the opposite of HR - the OP has provided some background information on his/her use, and thus we can provide at least something to go off of. He initially wanted to try 50mg - a dose that he could OD on - had we not chimed in and warned otherwise. Would you have preferred he just jumped up to 50mg? I for sure do not.

This isn't a "what should I take?" thread - it's a tolerance safety thread: treat it as such please.
 
don't get high off opiates, it's not worth it because once you do get that high you are looking for, the memory of that feeling never, ever goes away. you are left wanting more and more; some people can maintain a chipp for years and be fine, but the opiates were only holding them back. even if you like sitting around doing nothing, after awhile of going no where and not caring about anything gets old. people go too deep before it's too late and wind up six feet under, behind bars, or eating with a spork at mental hospitals.

i am still trying to escape the negative consequences of getting high, and let me tell you, it sucks! everyday i wake up thinking about drugs (especially opiates), and i feel like i am missing out on so much euhporia and good times, but as the day goes on, i realize how much more stable i feel without drugs. life goes on, and i feel as if everything will be OK
 
It is possible I missed it but I don't think I saw anybody ask yet, but :OP How much acetaminophen is in the pills that you have? If you have pills with alot of tylenol in them you should do a CWE before you consume the hydrocodone.
 
To the OP, I also want to add something you had a question about. If you re-dose or split any given dose of any opiate, the effects will not be as strong. Taking the entire amount at one time yields best results for most opiates. Also, for better results wait a few days in between each time you dose. You will likely have a more pleasurable experience. Some posters are warning you on the risk of addiction, and I do advise you pay their posts heed, because opiates are extraordinarily addictive. Just so you know.
 
ihatepipes said:
It is possible I missed it but I don't think I saw anybody ask yet, but :OP How much acetaminophen is in the pills that you have? If you have pills with alot of tylenol in them you should do a CWE before you consume the hydrocodone.
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Ah! I knew I forgot something in my post.

^This is highly important. You should not be ingesting more than 1g of APAP in a single "serving" and not more than 4g throughout the day. Doing even this for consecutive days is proven to cause liver damage - even at 200mg/day. I can search for a / the study I saw if you'd like (OP or otherwise).
 
i would try 20mgs all at once again. dont space em out... i think thats why u didnt really feel em that first time...

im a daily hydrocodone user, oxy a few times a month when my guy fills his script. roxicodone is def the way to go if u have access. no apap like percs... and they break up much easier than other brands since they lack the time release crap. like everyone has mentioned... opiates are sneaky and will get u addicted before u even realize theres a problem so tread lightly. my first time i took 2 7.5 (15mgs) vicos and the only effect i remember was nausea. it wasnt until i took 2 lortabs (20mgs) many moons later after a night of partying did i realize how opiates worked. the buzz is subtle at first and u wont really appreciate them until u have hit a true nod.

nowadays i need at least 60mgs to get happy. my usual dose is 8 lorries and 3 somas. the somas def help me hit a nod.
 
Opiates were an acquired taste for me personally, unless it's heroin in which 0.05-0.1mg insufflated has gotten some of my buddys hooked instantly. I didn't realize the perfect euphoria, relaxation and bliss I got from using opiates until several uses. Not that I condone habitual use of opiates, its lead me to physical and psychological dependency :p Maybe the next time you try opiates (listen to those that recommend lower recreational dosages without tolerance, opiate overdose is serious and can be fatal).

I used to love hydrocodone when my tolerance was low enough to allow me to nod off and enjoy it, but IMO oxycodone is more noticably euphoric for those that are naive to opiates and provides a unique stimulatory effect that makes me very sociable and talkative. I always insufflate some of my oxy if it's straight oxycodone hcl because IMO the warm rush is undeniably euphoric (no apap i.e. Percocet) and pop the other half.
 
Try not to dose opiates more than once a day, this keeps the tolerance beast somewhat in control.
 
ErgicMergic said:
Try not to dose opiates more than once a day, this keeps the tolerance beast somewhat in control.
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It also will ease / help to prevent WD. Back when I would only take 15mg at night once or twice a week I never had an issue. Now that I take 7.5mg several times throughout the day, days off are quite rough.
 
^Taking 600mg chelated magnesium or 15-30mg DXM 30 minutes before dosing opiates also has helped keep my tolerance and dependance in control. Without it, I woke up with a really bad runny nose/diarrhea every morning (approx 24hr from last dose). Now I just get the sniffles in the mornings here and there. NDMA antagonists help more than people give them credit for, even 30mg Zinc helps, I haven't upped my dose since July 2011.
 
I agree with the others that have suggested sedative antistamines for potentiation. Diphenhydramine is ideal for this IMO bc its OTC. Promethazine and hydroxyzine are even better, but require a script in the US.
 
Sedative antihistamines tend to "dirty" up the opiate high, though. They're only good if you're chasing sedation and the "nod" from opiates, not the rest of the subtle, intricate high.
 
Which of these three would potentiate hydrocodone the most? Diphenhydramine, Dextromethorphan, or Weed? Which of the three would have the best chances of making you nod aswell? I was thinking weed. Weed would also get rid of any nausea problems. If not weed, than how much of DXM or DPH?
 
To OP, though I am new to the board here, due to a complicated cervical spine surgery and resulting complications in 2009, I now have almost 3 years of daily dosing of Oxy + Oxycodone or the combo of MS-Contin + Oxycodone for the neuro-muscular pain issues I have. Initially, the beginning prescribed dosage for me was 30mg Oxy and a 10-325mg of Oxycodone 4 hours later. Combined like that for me, I fell asleep and rested well for a few hours. But, as the days went on, my body adapted to the help it was getting. These days I am prescribed 3 doses of 60mg Oxy each day and can take up to 4 additional doses of the 10-325 Oxycodone for the break through pain. The "ride" I get from the opiates is a smooth, soft and warm feeling. For my pain issues, the affect is comforting, not euphoric and nothing like benzos. The experience of Oxy and OC (like others have said) is usually individualized. after all, we are all different people. Hope this helps.
 
personally i find that weed overpowers the mental high of opiates, dont get me wrong i like the combo but i only smoke later on when im coming down. As for the other 2 i have no experience with, although white grapefruit juice can marginally increase effects, just drink the juice like 45 mins before hand.
 
I don't like mixing anything, but diphenhydramine might not be a bad idea since the opiate itch can be a bit much for some people. It will potentiate the nod and reduce (at your dose maybe eliminate) the itching. It's normal to feel nauseated from opiates. However if you are sweating and uncontrollably vomiting then you've taken too much. I am your size and I got pretty sick on 30mg oxycodone after weeks of using demerol (up to 500mg at a time).
 
So if Im slightly sweating than I should drop the dose? Wow, I don't think Hydrocodone is my thing than. When I dropped 20mg of hydrocodone after having 10mg and 5mg of oxycodone in me, I was sweating as well.
 
Yeah, you are doing too much. I would bet 25-30mg hydrocodone on an empty stomach would be a good dose. Maybe even start at 20 and give it an hour, then add another 5-10mg if you need. If you are using oxycodone 15-20mg (3 or 4 5/325 percs) should do the trick. As others have mentioned, watch how much APAP you are taking (325mg per pill in a perc 5/325). If you are only using every few days you will be fine taking up to 2000-2500mg APAP in a go. If you are using daily don't break 3000mg a day (1000mg a dose). You can harm your liver.
 
So I feel like posting all the negative effects I had off of this dose. I had trouble urinating, heart was racing, some nausea and dizziness that was aggravated with movement. I was sweating, when I got up, I felt really light. The thing is, even at this dose, there really wasn't ANY euphoria. Maybe Hydrocodone just isn't for me? Or maybe I should just take 20mg?
 
You took too much and suffered a minor overdose. That's why you didn't feel any euphoria. The first time I did oxycodone it was the same way. There was nothing good about it at all. Opiates are all about nailing the dose. Too little and you might feel nothing, but too much and you just end up sick. Well, way to much and you end up dead. Lower your dose and try again, empty stomach. Don't bother mixing anything else. First find your sweet spot and gain some experience with the drug.
 
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