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Opiates and Chocolate

DavidWhy

DavidWhy

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Why does using opiates make me want to eat loads of chocolate? I have never really been into sweet stuff but since I started using poppy pods and when I use codeine, DHC, or very very rarely heroin I crave chocolate like a mother-licking bitch with a Willy Wonka fetish.

I buy white chocolate, milk chocolate, chocolate with caramel in it, oh sweet baby Jebus the list is endless. I go wild for the stuff. Is this normal? I don't care if it isn't. I am going to do it anyway. It's not as though I have a craving for the taste of a nice, still beating heart so I have nothing to be ashamed of. I just wondered if this is a global phenomenon or one specific to me.

What do people in poor countries do? Think of all those in Afghanistan or Burma or wherever who are addicted to heroin but probably have to walk miles and miles before they see a supermarket with a 241 offer on Dairy Milk. How do they cope??

But yes, tell me, is this normal?
 
makes me want to eat lots of chocolate too lol. I don't know why but methadone users often get candy cravings.

you wouldn't believe the amount of chocolate i consume while on opiates lol. They really increase my apetite for some reason, not as much as cannabis though.

how do those poor people cope? some people just dont like to eat as it may diminish their high (i dont find so with benzos and opiates tho).

yes it's normal, i actually put on like 25 lbs after 8 months of poppy tea. Now that i quit it's all dropped off.
 
I an eating it now. I have a 400g bar of white chocolate, a 400g bar of milk chocolate with honeycomb pieces, I have them both pressed together and I take a big bite so I get both flavours in my mouth at once and then I take a swig of hot (normal) tea so the chocolatey combo melts in my mouth like dirty little pieces of earth from the ground in Sodom and Gomorrah. It's bliss. It's almost better than the drug itself. I am a fucking drug taking, chocolate eating heathen wallowing in sin and fat and raising agents and hydrogenated vegetable oil... I am such a fucking pervert!
 
the craving only gets more intense when you stop the opiates too...
its interesting that there is a craving for sugar but specifically chocolate....
and chocolate itself is crazy .... humans love it but its deadly poisonous to many animals

and to your question is it normal? - answer ... yes completely
 
Thank you very much tackyspiral. I feel as though I can show my face in public again tomorrow now. I won't have the black cloud of shame hanging over me for greedily devouring almost a kilogram of chocolate.

I probably won't eat all that if I am honest. I wish I could but I would surely be sick. I am going to scoff a good 500g tonight though.

It's posisonous to animals so they can't have any. It's for humans. Only humans. Animals aren't allowed it because they don't have jobs and can't afford to buy drugs. Or chocolate.
 
Good opioids in sufficient doses generally make me want to eat. Once I became dependent, being on an opioid was the only way I could eat.

It is common for opioids to cause cravings for sweets/chocolate. I used to eat a ton of candy when I was on heroin or, especially, on higher doses of methadone. I used to go to this methadone counselling group where we would have flavoured coffees and everyone would load in the sugar and cream. I would buy lots of candy and chocolates and had them stashed everywhere.

Don't go overboard though, eating tons of sweets is not good for you and opioids depress the immune system and are bad for your teeth already. Also it's not fun being on heroin and puking on your shoes after consuming a whole cheesecake or something ;)

I have heard a number of stupid explanations for this. Like one site claims the WHO says methadone users crave sweets because there is sugar in the liquid methadone syrup which basically gets one addicted to sugar 8). Makes no sense because it happens with other opioids and with methadone that doesn't contain sugar.

What I did find interesting is that opioids can apparently induce a hypoglycemic state, and thus cause cravings for sugars and food in general.

This site says:
Heroin addicts have shown flat glucose tolerance curves, with an exaggerated and delayed insulin response following oral glucose loading. Heroin addicts have a markedly reduced acute insulin response to glucose administered intravenously and have low potassium values. Morphines ability to raise levels of insulin and to induce hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia could have important consequences, especially for persons with diabetes.
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There are many studies on insulin and glucose in heroin and methadone users. An example:

Plasma glucose and insulin responses to both oral and intravenous glucose stimulation were evaluated in heroin and methadone addicts, compared to healthy control subjects. Both groups of addicts had an altered response to oral and intravenous glucose load. These phenomena were linked to a reduced insulin response. Moreover, increased fasting insulin levels in both groups of addicts were observed. These data show that both heroin and methadone addiction may alter glucose metabolism, and, furthermore, stress the findings of similarities between opiate addicts and non-insulin dependent diabetics. [source]
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I have had my insulin levels tested and they were abnormal. Another friend on methadone was diagnosed as hypoglycemic. Interestingly, now that she is off all opioids her symptoms are a lot better.

Some studies found that drugs like heroin and methadone can cause an intolerance to glucose, similar to diabetes, so that would be another reason to limit your sugar intake.

As for chocolate in particular, it may also have some synergy with opioids in that eating causes the release of endogenous opioids. One study found that giving people (non-opioid users) naloxone made them not enjoy sweet high-fat foods such as cookies or chocolate.
 
I found on Oxy I would get insatiable munchies but in particular for chocolate. When I have codeine I always mix it with benzos & weed & I wake up to a trail of food based destruction the next day. Empty packs of chips, chocolate wrappers everywhere & usually McDonalds wrappers. The McDonalds concerns me as that means I have gotten behind the wheel & drove but yes opies of all kinds give me sweet food cravings.
 
That's weird, whenever I'm on opiates in general I feel disgusted at the idea of eating, especially something sweet...it really cuts my appetite.
 
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