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Opiate tolerance question

Crepsirezzell

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I was browsing through a few forums today and and found this statement...

"every single time you ingest opiates your tolerance goes up a little bit and never really goes back down for the rest of your life even if you quit for 20 years, for the most part."

Is there any truth to it?

Thanks.
 
your tolerance will decrease over time but i am definitely of the opinion that a certain degree of opiate tolerance does last for life.. after being a heroin addict for several years i could never go back and get a buzz off vicodin or something, no matter how long ive been clean for.
 
Its your expectations about the high that change you cant be off h for like six months and then say that codeine doesnt do it for you anymore. It isnt even biologically possible you tolerance nears baseline the longer you abstain.
 
Its your expectations about the high that change you cant be off h for like six months and then say that codeine doesnt do it for you anymore.

really? cause thats exactly what im saying.

for me, it is not a psychological effect at all. im not saying that your tolerance doesnt decrease over time, of course it does.. im just saying that i could never get back to where i was before i got addicted and i was clean for almost 3 years.
 
really? cause thats exactly what im saying.

for me, it is not a psychological effect at all. im not saying that your tolerance doesnt decrease over time, of course it does.. im just saying that i could never get back to where i was before i got addicted and i was clean for almost 3 years.

ya,you will!
 
really? cause thats exactly what im saying.

for me, it is not a psychological effect at all. im not saying that your tolerance doesnt decrease over time, of course it does.. im just saying that i could never get back to where i was before i got addicted and i was clean for almost 3 years.

You can although I fully understand what you mean. It's just to do with the level of your addiction, my second time was far worse than the first, but only because I went further down the path, everytime you become hooked again the process simply repeats...
You can certainly build a long term tolerance, especially to pills, being on smack for the better part of 7 years I could munch on pills all day long, but with the smack, after even after just a few weeks off, as soon as it's out my system I have to pretty much start back EXACTLY where I was the first time I ever had it..
 
hm. honestly im surprised no ones agreeing with me lol. i swear i was clean for 3 years and my tolerance never fully returned to virgin status. :\
 
Clean from what?
And I am agreeing with you, in a way lol but it's different for each drug, and route, I mean if you got hooked to injected oxy, then taking them orally will always require more, than say when you first used to get high by just popping them..
It's just my experiance to, and I don't have much with oral opiates, but others i've known have od'd from a fraction of what they where taking a month before, thinking their tolerance would be in tact.
 
yea im talking about heroin.. i was a daily herion user for 4 years but i got clean in 2008.

this is what im trying to say: when i first took opiates in high school, before i was ever addicted, i could take one or two percocet and be like nodding out and throwing up lol. but now taking a percocet, even after being opiate free for almost 3 years, is like eatting a tic tac. it does absolutely nothing.
 
I actually agree with .Lucid. somewhat but I think that the psychological component has more to do with it than he realizes. Although I have never had a strong physical addiction to an opiate I have been dropping pharmaceutical opioids in recreational doses for several years now, and a while ago I took a 10 month break from all opiates, which by all physiological indications should have brought my tolerance down to "baseline". However at the end of the break I attempted to start back with 25mg hydrocodone, a dose that once would have had me nodding, but was rewarded with only a moderate, non-inebriating buzz. The effect was reproducible with several different opiates. I think that while the opioid receptors may downregulate to similar levels as before one started using, the brain's response to drug induced pleasure never quite returns back to what it was like the first few times.
 
yea im talking about heroin.. i was a daily herion user for 4 years but i got clean in 2008.

this is what im trying to say: when i first took opiates in high school, before i was ever addicted, i could take one or two percocet and be like nodding out and throwing up lol. but now taking a percocet, even after being opiate free for almost 3 years, is like eatting a tic tac. it does absolutely nothing.

Yeah see I get that, I simply don't bother with swallowing them, you can get a good rush from relatively low dose pills, but they are going to have to go in your veins!
Also if you EVER end up slipping back to H (grats for 2 years too btw) just think back to how much you started with your first time, I mean you will be able to go a little more than that but it's best to just start low all over again, even just 10mgs and you'll feel just like you did when you first let it in.
 
I actually agree with .Lucid. somewhat but I think that the psychological component has more to do with it than he realizes. Although I have never had a strong physical addiction to an opiate I have been dropping pharmaceutical opioids in recreational doses for several years now, and a while ago I took a 10 month break from all opiates, which by all physiological indications should have brought my tolerance down to "baseline". However at the end of the break I attempted to start back with 25mg hydrocodone, a dose that once would have had me nodding, but was rewarded with only a moderate, non-inebriating buzz. The effect was reproducible with several different opiates. I think that while the opioid receptors may downregulate to similar levels as before one started using, the brain's response to drug induced pleasure never quite returns back to what it was like the first few times.

There is basically no physcological factors involved with level of 'high' from heroin, maybe if you're doing 20 on the odd weekend, but not when she's got you man...there is a HUGE difference between pharms and smack. Popping pills yes there is a lot of placebo effects involved with different mindsets, but with smack, doesn't matter what your head space you feel it, especially when you're talking 4 years.
I CAN get high from oxy's not swallowing anymore really, just the feel good, and bit of an itch at very high doses, I haven't done that in a loong time such a waste! I used too get high even after I'd cleaned up, but as soon as I injected it, nothing else will get me high like it used to, except, either iv'ing the pills or heroin..

For people who haven't been there it can be hard to grasp, I understand that, logic and science indicate that you can get high from swallowing them, you just have to take more, people start throwing all the BA bollocks at you. While this is true, you can still feel the opiate effects at high doses, it certainly isn't high, it's like drinking a hot chocolate when it's snowing outside, you just feel nice...That's why people that do first time iv, never turn back, why people get soo addicted, and why you should never ever try it!
 
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