Opiate question...Am I missing something

[Exx_head]

Okay, I'm not really into prescription drugs, but I have had the chance to try oxycodone and tylenol 3 (with codeine). I'm sure many of you find these super-weak, but like I said, I'm not a seasoned user of these.
I find that I just get this out-of-it dulled senses feeling. Is that what opiates are about? Or am I supposed to take higher doses and get some kind of super duper high? I know I can go to erowid and read, but I'm looking more for personal experience. How much Tylenol 3 does it take to get you off?

 

[Deus121]

You'll need a lot. And no thats not what opiates are all about, the weaker opiates will probably not do much of anything for you. I find that codine, and even hydrocodone don't do really anything to me. I need a good strong opiate like heroin to enjoy it.

 

[drCipher]

If you are looking for a nice opiate high... Codeine (T-3's) is not really the way to go. Now the Oxycodone should have done you in nicely if you popped a few of those (a couple because you are an opiate virgin). It's not a super-duper high to all. Personally I think opiates are a cure-all. They can and *should* be used for a lot. I wish there was more research into opiates and depression. I think opiates would be very beneficial... anyway I am digressing. They are really euphoric and I do not get dull and lethargic on them. I become really happy and content. It’s a good idea to have some antihistamines nearby (Benadryl). The itching can become quite annoying to some. If you want to try it with the codeine, shit try 4 and work your way up. If you plan on doing this a lot. Look into an extraction. Not worth it for codeine though IMO

 

[JimmyPop]

for me, the oxy or hydrocodone high is very subtle. I was looking for an easily identifiable feeling (like MDMA, or alcohol even), and didnt get it, so i because disappointed and frustrated with them.
Only once i had "forgot" that i had taken them, (ie not thinking about it too much, relaxing, not searching for the feeling or waiting for it to "hit",) did i finally realize what they do.
I now treat them like alcohol. I usually dont count my drinks throughout the night, and you dont really think about it or how its effecting you when your buzzed or intoxicated.
so maybe i didnt answer your question. maybe yours is a problem of dosing. but for me, i think alot of the problem was mental.
hope this helps.....
[ 20 December 2001: Message edited by: JimmyPop ]

 

[RJW]

It took me a few times to finally enjoy oxycodone and hydrocodone, even at 100mgs, was not really that great. Drugs like X and cocaine, to me, are a much more intense experience. Hearing that the oxycodone high was "heroin like" and the heroin was the "GREATEST euphoria" you can experience I expected a lot more. For me the opiate high is much more subtle. I get a really nice feeling of contentment and happiness and felt really talkative. Now, I haven't yet tried heroin but I will when I find some that I can snort that is of decent quality and maybe that will be better. I can definatly see opiates being an effective treatment for depression

 

[aliengrrl]

gee, how is it that i got INCREDIBLY sick on 20 mgs of oc. is that normal. i have no interest in taking oxys again cuz i got so sick. i threw up all night and even in the morning.

 

[Bizzare]

Knock out a OC 40 I bet that'll get ya a good start
lol
good luck

 

[**Infinity**]

Originally posted by aliengrrl:
gee, how is it that i got INCREDIBLY sick on 20 mgs of oc. is that normal. i have no interest in taking oxys again cuz i got so sick. i threw up all night and even in the morning.
To people who use OC's often, 20mgs sounds like nothing, but to someone who isn't opiate tolerant, yes, this is normal for you to get sick.
The first couple of times I did oxy's I was the same way. Although, I never got that incredibly sick feeling, it was kind of like I gotta puke, go the bathroom, puke, feel much much better..then I was just able to enjoy my high.

 

[*KANE*]

I find oxycodone to be the best and safest euphoria. Heroin is much like oxy as far as snorting but every heroin bag has to be approached carefully until you know the strength. there are other great euphorias out there but i think oxycodone is the least risky. It sucks because i don't always come across them and I am dry of all opiates (drugs in general) and when i get them i eat them away in hours. I could go on and on about how great oxycodone is and it is such a WONDER drug. but i will stop.

 

[aliengrrl]

i can't imagine even taking 20 again. i threw up all night and at no point did i feel euphoric at all. i don't think im up to building up a tolerance. i've had more fun taking perococets cuz i didn't get so ill.

 

[TheTruth]

Originally posted by Bizzare:
Knock out a OC 40 I bet that'll get ya a good start
lol
good luck
That is some stupid ass advice, don't listen to this Greenlighter.

 

[RJW]

Originally posted by aliengrrl:
i can't imagine even taking 20 again. i threw up all night and at no point did i feel euphoric at all. i don't think im up to building up a tolerance. i've had more fun taking perococets cuz i didn't get so ill.
The same active drug is in percs as well as OC. Maybe the full 20 mgs was too strong for you. If you have another opportunity just do 10mgs, or half of a OC 20. That will be equivalent to two percs.

 

[acid_raver]

some people happen to be easily affected by opiates, so opiate virgins watch out your first time, i heard it hurts at first, but then feels gooooood....
it works the other way around too, some people need a lot to get off, just the way their body is made.

 

[incubusted13]

Well the first time i tried oxycodone...it wasnt too pleasent...although i did feel the euphoria i had constant itching and pretty much fell asleep...anyways it takes some getting used to. after my second time i find it to be one of the most pleasureable feelings ever.

 

[Alucard_X]

you won't start noticing the true joys of oxy until you snort it or shoot it (correctly that is, with the extraction). anyhow if your puking a lot off of 20 try this, scrape off the coating of the pill with your finger nail then crush the pill into a fine powder and get out all the little rock chunks. snort half the pile then wait 20-30 minutes and see how you feel.

 

[PhreeX]

Opiates are simply not for everyone.. some people will use and use but never get the true joy - hey, thats how some people are...

 

[day_for_night]

It took me a few times to finally enjoy oxycodone and hydrocodone, even at 100mgs, was not really that great.
wow, 100mgs huh? to be able to take 100mgs of either of those (especially oxy) you must be tolerance man. otherwise you would have probably died, on that much oxy anyways.

 

[RJW]

Originally posted by day_for_night:

wow, 100mgs huh? to be able to take 100mgs of either of those (especially oxy) you must be tolerance man. otherwise you would have probably died, on that much oxy anyways.
My tolerance level for OC has increased WAY quicker than I would have anticipated. My first time I railed 20 mgs and it was a good ride. About my fourth time I went to 40mgs and now it usually takes me around 80 mgs. Ran out of OC and orally tried 10 Norco 10/325. Felt a great buzz but NO euphoria. Last time I used OC I railed 40mgs and ate 80mgs. It kind of sucks that the tolerance increases so quickly. If I didn't get these for practically nothing I wouldn't consider the high worth the money. I don't have enough left to be concerned about the addiction potential and I will not pay the street rate for them so my party is soon to end.

 

[PhreeX]

Originally posted by RJW:

My tolerance level for OC has increased WAY quicker than I would have anticipated. My first time I railed 20 mgs and it was a good ride. About my fourth time I went to 40mgs and now it usually takes me around 80 mgs. Ran out of OC and orally tried 10 Norco 10/325. Felt a great buzz but NO euphoria. Last time I used OC I railed 40mgs and ate 80mgs. It kind of sucks that the tolerance increases so quickly. If I didn't get these for practically nothing I wouldn't consider the high worth the money. I don't have enough left to be concerned about the addiction potential and I will not pay the street rate for them so my party is soon to end.
I do not envy you my friend.. I have been a narcotics junkie for about 4 years and I still get off on 20mg OC railed...

 

[quale]

Well in my heretical opinion I prefer codeine to the stronger opiates...or maybe I just prefer lower doses.
I just snorted H for the first time (okay first time with good shit) and it just made me groggy itchy, out of it and in fact dysphoric. Snorting a bunch of percs also had no big bonus.
On the other hand 200mg of codeine and I feel energetic happy and alive. Everything about life is just a little bit better on codeine (or hydrocodone for that matter).