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blight12

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So I have recently tested and enjoyed meth use and decided its time to move on.
I was lucky to find no functional use and thus avoid serious addiction as is common with meth.

With meth i found that by sticking to weekend only use i seemed to avoid serious issues with regards to its addictive qualities.
This is my personal experience and in no way a recommendation.

The last thing I have left to try is opiates and I can only get access to Heroin.
It is in the form of white powder and the dealers here call it Thai White.

Assuming I am not interested in whether I should try it or not, I would like to know from those with experience whether I can avoid dependency by weekend only use which has never steered me wrong in the past.

Any information in terms of the specifics with regards to dependency would b appreciated.

Thanks.
 
I think using either one of those substances can be disasterous for the vast majority of users. Don't think that you are the rare exception.
 
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I can't say that this would happen to you for sure if you try heroin.
I tried heroin and liked it so I thought yeah I'll keep that as a nice weekend treat. I managed to do that for a while but then I started having it as a weekend and mid-week treat. That carried on for a bit and then slowly but surely I started using it every single day.
Naturally it soon got to the point where if I didn't have heroin everyday I would go into horrible withdrawals.
So basically my advice would be that if you talk to heroin addicts I reckon most would tell you they started off as weekend users.
My weekend use led me on to a habit that lasted over 11 years.
 
Yeaahh... you'll be able to pull it off for a little while, maybe even a couple years.. (even that is slim) but theres a 99.9% chance you'll end up strung out, just like the rest of us. Been using a long time, met a lot of addicts of all shapes and sizes, and I have never once met anybody who was able to "chip" with any kind of long term status. They all end up breaking there own rules, progressively using more and more until one day you wake up dope sick and it's all over. Whamo.

Maybe you're of the .1% who can do it, if so.. write a book in 5 years telling us how you did it and cure the nature of addiction. You'll be rich.
 
Dont do, it, honestly most likely like stated above it will start as a week end thing, how I started with pills 10 years ago then went from hydros, to percs, to oxy(contins), to opanas/fentynal/ basically all the strong opiates, to heroin. After a while it will go from well I can do it a few times a week to full blown heroin addict, besides if you want to try opiates start low with some hydrocodone (lortab, viks, norco, etc.) For someone with no tolerance for opiates jumping right into heroin is a good way to od & depending on the quality its real easy to od...
 
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Dont do, it, honestly most likely like stated above it will start as a week end thing, how I started with pills 10 years ago then went from hydros, to percs, to oxy(contins), to opanas/fentynal/ basically all the strong opiates, to heroin. After a while it will go from well I can do it a few times a week to full blown heroin addict, besides if you want to try opiates start low with some hydrocodone (lortab, viks, norco, etc.) For someone with no tolerance for opiates jumping right into heroin is a good way to od & depending on the quality its real easy to od...
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Good first post, Insainity.

I was also going to mention in my post... why do you "have" to try opiates at all? Especially if all you can get is heroin... is this like... really necessary? Because man, you're going to regret that decision for the rest of your life. You don't "have" to do anything... you may want to, or have opiates on some "list" that needs to be checked off but man, it isn;t a game.. it isn't one of those things like sky diving where you can say "oh I need to try that once before I die" Do you really need to do this? If so, are you ready to handle a life time of misery? Just read my posts and the hundreds of others who started out just like you. You really want to be where we are at?
 
if youve never got high on opiates I would SERIOUSLY recommend not ever trying it so you wont know what your missing out on. The opiate high is just to good for most people to not become addicted. I would give ANYTHING to get that high I got my first 4-5 times using opiates. I have AMAZING self control and dont want opiates in my life anymore yet i still do them almost every weekend.

I started "regularly" using about a year and a half ago ( IV morphine ). Started out doing it ONCE every two weeks. Over that year and half ive switched to IV heroin EVERY friday and saterday and sometimes sunday as well. sometimes ill be high from friday at noon till I go to sleep on sunday night. Ive stayed away from using that often latley though. havent had ANY opiates in 2 weeks. If i use heavely for 2-3 days weekends on end I will go through mild withdraws for 2-3 days.

moral of the story its possible, not many can do it, youll be at a great disadvantage as well because alll you can get is heroin which is usually the last step in opiate addiction and your starting on it.

Honestly wish I would of never touched opiates. Life would just be better.
 
To answer your question. If you can fight the mild/moderate urgers that you get sometimes, you can bypass dependecy. But you can only play with fire so many times before you get burned. Know what i mean? If you are the type to always have a lot of money around and is always bored, You are probably going to get a habit. It's just that good.
 
Beefy said:
If you are the type to always have a lot of money around and is always bored, You are probably going to get a habit. It's just that good.
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YES ! this is my downfall as well.

and I would compare chipping more like standing in the middle of a fire and hopeing you can take the heat.

there is no magic yes or no answer regarding addiction. more than likely youll chip for a while then become a junkie. I dont know you thats just what I see happening.
 
Doing heroin is like the first time you fuck... It's God Like and once is never enough. It's a feeling that no human was meant to feel because from then on, nothing else measures up, and you'll be chasing that original feeling (which goes away real fast never to return fully) for the rest of your life. Take whatever imaginary list you have in your head and cross opiates, especially heroin, the fuck off. I swear on all know and love that you will be back here in 5-10 years, probably sooner, telling some poster just like you the exact same thing.

You. Will. Regret it.
 
I don't know if you smoke cigs, or not? Do you? If so, then make sure you got a pack if/when you smoke/shoot/snort that shit, cuz like mr.scag says "it's like the first time you fuck... It's God Like...", so true and what better treat after good sex, than a cig. I haven't used H in ten years, but I am dependent on opiates to get me through my work/life/day..., and it sucks. I started with a few vic's and then someone was like, hey - you wanna smoke some "opium" with me? I was like sure, I'm young and dumb. After a few weeks/month, the dude was like, yea, that wasn't opium, it's BTH... And honestly, I really didn't care, due to the addictive qualities. But, paradoxically, had he been like, hey - wanna smoke some heroin with me? I probably would have passed up that... Smoking it (BTH) leads to snorting and eventually (unless you have iron lungs!) shooting it. You really don't want to get all the abscesses and infections (or just tracks if you're lucky) that come with that shit. The more some people are told not what to do, it entices them to do it even more... So, if you have to cross it off your bucket list...fuck it, just don't blame anyone but yourself........
 
Great posts thank you all.

I see i really need to seriously consider avoiding this entirely.

I don't think im special at all in terms of avoiding more then weekend use.
I think what has helped me in the past as well as recently with meth us that I love my work, I have my own business which is my passion and the most importance thing in my life and this has so far ensured i do nothing to mess it up like using drugs during the week.

Meth in my mind was the biggest danger since for others its often very functional and useful for work type tasks and i was very lucky to find it not so for me.
Being able to avoid doing it weekly has got me thinking that i might get away with trying opiates in the same way. Also my ROA is always only oral or nasal, im to scared of anything else. I think this has helped me as well.

I really enjoyed Kratom and I can sense the beauty of opiates in it just there out of reach so I would like to try taming this final beast.
Unfortunately here you cannot buy pharm opiates at all, that type of market doesn't exist. So its the big H only.

Anyways, so my question in terms of dependency is that I could theoretically avoid it and withdrawals if i was theoretically able to stick to weekend and non daily use, correct?

I have actually done it once accidentally. A dealer gave us this instead of coke and we hit a big line while driving and all i can remember is memory loss and being unable to walk. Fortunately the drive somehow managed to pull over. It also went away quickly and i dont remember it being fun at all, but prob due to not expecting it.
 
It depends what are yer weeknds like? Just sat and sun? Or do they include Friday to bcuz that's an xtra day to get high. And what about those days where you have off they count too and so does the night before bcuz technically if you don't have work the next day than its technically the weeknd... everyone slips man everyone your choice
 
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It depends what are yer weeknds like? Just sat and sun? Or do they include Friday to bcuz that's an xtra day to get high. And what about those days where you have off they count too and so does the night before bcuz technically if you don't have work the next day than its technically the weeknd... everyone slips man everyone your choice
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Yeah i hear you. It would be one session per weekend (prob friday evening) and public holidays dont count, as a business owner i work in the week and disregard public holidays. I will have to have a long hard think on this first.
 
If you decide to try it, you better wish that you don't like it. Everybody doesn't. But if you do like it, you will 100% develop some problems with it sooner or later. You really cannot win in this game. Unless you count it as a victory that you've done it, but found it unpleasant.

Skip it if you value yourself at all.
 
Name just about any other drugs, and I've seen people who could manage it and not let it take over their lives, but I've seen heroin/meth turn people who used just about everything else recreationally turn into addicts after trying these drugs. It makes you very selfish and withdrawn and pretty much seperates you from the rest of society, even the rest of the drug using culture. You're whole life eventually becomes an elaborate cover up, with you trying to keep up the appearance that "everything's fine". And it gets where the only people that you can be honest with are other people that are using it too. If you start fucking with those drugs, you may as well wave goodbye to being a "normal" person ever again.

Meth and heroin are equally as "bad" in my opinion, but for different reasons...Cocaine is just as bad as either of them and probably has the most potential to ruin you financially, but it's more socially acceptable than meth or H.

I think stimulants have the potential to screw your life up quicker than heroin, because there's a fairly long grace period with H where it seems cheap and manageable and doesn't keep you up for days or completely change your personality. In the end though, when it becomes a physical addiction and you have to use it everyday, it's not good. Even if you can afford the habit, it's a depressing trip, believe me. Spending time with your family, going out and doing normal activities....These things seem like a nuisance to you when you're using H.....You take care of your responsibilities out of obligation, but the people in your life can tell your heart's not in it anymore.....

I personally love the high.....but there's a steep price to pay....
 
Meth would Fuck you up faster because the damage it takes on your body. But heroin is more addicting due to how bad the withdrawals can get comparing to stimulants, so its a trade off. That thai white powder sounds good to man, like everyone is saying i would hold off. I can see you taking bumps through out the day justifying your use to your self even though you are an addict. The feeling is just complete pleasure, it doesn't matter how bad or good your day was. The opiate is going to make you feel nice a content, with a warm body buzz. Everything will be more enjoyable on Heroin, this is something you don't want man. I recently stopped using for like 2-3 months and picked up again like a week ago. I told my self i can chip, and do it here and there and its just 1 sack i can't get withdrawals from it. Well im back, using daily and even using 3 days in a row will give you small withdrawals on your 'day off'. So if you want to use week ends, im almost sure you will want to use fri-sun which may work for a while. But sooner or later your gonna be sick of feeling shitty on monday and tuesday from your little withdrawals, and your gonna use one of those mondays. Then it is all over, your gonna have to use to not go into withdrawal.
 
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