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Opioids Opana Questions

I do not get these conversions. Me an a friend of mine have the same tolerance which is about 40mg of oxy at a time. We both have to insuffalate 10mg of opana to feel the same high which would mean were doing 100mg of oxy according to comparisons you all are giving.
 
I do not get these conversions. Me an a friend of mine have the same tolerance which is about 40mg of oxy at a time. We both have to insuffalate 10mg of opana to feel the same high which would mean were doing 100mg of oxy according to comparisons you all are giving.

i agree with this statement. i can do 2 20mg roxie's and feel the same off 10mg opana.

i usually buy 20mg er opana's because that's all i can really find, and i usually do the whole thing over the span of a night in little lines, but i feel good after i do about 5mg of it =D

i hadn't done any opiates the last few days, and got absolutely nodded out off 20mg opana earlier in the afternoon and it was great as always.
 
Well, since the bioavailability of oxymorphone is 40% when insufflated, when you snort 10mg, only about 4mg actually make it to your bloodstream. So technically that should equate to 80mg of oxycodone (50% was an approximation, my mistake it makes a big difference actually).

So saying that 4mg of Opana in the blood = 80mg of oxycodone in the blood is an exact. Once in the blood this is how they compare in strength.

However, the amounts consumed don't always equate exactly to the approximated bioavailability. In other words, when you snort 10mg of Opana it doesn't mean that exactly 4mg of oxymorphone made it into your system. It varies vastly from person to person and even each time you consume it.

This is partly because everybody responds differently to different chemicals and partly based on how well you snorted/consumed it.

When you say you insufflate Opana, do you mean Opana ER or IR? If you ingested the ER formulation it is very hard to judge how well your body absorbed the oxymorphone. This is because of the stupid gel timerx formulation of the pills. Not only does it clog up the nose, but a lot of the oxymorph is still delivered in a time release fashion, even though you crushed it up.

In the timerx system, the oxymorphone is basically trapped inside of these "beads" of pill binder. When they come in contact with water, they release the oxymorphone and absorb water, basically trading it off. This is why when you crush it up and swallow it, a lot of it is still time released. They did a really good job on the anti-abuse front. Even when you break the pill down these smaller "beads" still deliver the drug with the same system.

So the same thing happens in your nose. The oxymorphone has to come in contact with water and be released. And taking into account how it gels up inside the nose, depending on how much it gets clogged, the bioavailability could go down to 30% or even 20%.

So while it can't be known for sure, 40mg of oxycodone might feel the same as 10mg of Opana to you because it is being partially time released and you are feeling it less intensely over a longer period of time.

Also, you have to remember that although they compare in strength a certain way, they are different drugs and give a different type of euphoria. Even though they compare in analgesic properties and CNS depression, it could take that much Opana to give you the same "feeling" as 40mg of oxycodone.
 
The weird thing for me is that when I snort a 10mg IR tab I dont feel any euphoria but I get sick and want to throw up 2hrs later. But when I snort 10mg from a 40mg ER I have a decent amount of euphoria and dont get sick. Its a VERY strange drug to me and I have done many.
 
^Yeah exactly what I was saying... you get sick and want to throw up because you absorb about 4mg of oxymorphone from the IR which is too much for you based on your 40mg oxycodone tolerance.

But then when you snort the ER, it time releases the dose... probably a closer dose to what you need.
 
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