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Only smoking using waterfalls?

TheAzo said:
I just had to look up what a waterfall was....

Let me get this straight, make sure I understand this...

So, it's a plastic bottle, with a hole in the bottom, and a bowl affixed in place of the cap, usually using tack-it or similar sticky stuff.... you then fill it with water, light the bowl, and drain the water, and inhale the smoke that now fills the bottle.

So, it's like a bong, only without water, with a gravity-feed to fill the chamber, and with the whole thing made out of improvised materials that probably off-gas when heated?

Doesn't the smoke taste nasty, what with the plastic chamber and whatever sealant is used to secure the bowl, and the lack of water to filter it through?
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I use a glass bottle. (there is a reason I use Arizona's, try poking a hole in a random glass bottle and see what happens!) Sobe was my official bottle for years, but those jerks switched to a plastic bottle and I don't want to use plastic. I even wrote a letter to them and told them to change it back to glass because I can't make bongs out of their bottles anymore, never got back to me though. There is no plastic on mine, it's a glass bottle and then I epoxied a metal bowl to the top of it. I hope the epoxy isn't bad but it also doesn't directly touch the flame, and i'm not sure how it would even up in the hit since it's just on the outside of the bowl around the edges.

It tastes yummy, I don't see why you need to filter it through bong water to make it tastes good? If it's good chronic why would it not taste good?

What you DO taste is disgusting ass resin once it builds up and you use the same waterfall too much. I have to make new waterfall bottles every couple weeks because of this (how the heck do you clean a resin filled glass waterfall?). Which only entails getting a new Arizona bottle and punching a hole through the glass (Nail Set and hammer works nicely!) That is my only complaint with waterfalls, and also they make my friends puke sometimes who weren't expected such a hard hit.
 
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Sega420 said:


bullshit. when i smoke bongs the bowl i use is tiny. literally a teeny pinch and thats it packed full ready to go.
cream that shit and snap it and you are FUCKED.

fair play though if youve only seen big bowls on bongs.
remember, a GB is just a bong that pulls the smoke for you.
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wrong the smoke doesnt filter through water :)
 
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Sega420 said:
Gravity Bong- bong meaning a device used to gather a large amount of smoke into a chamber to be inhaled all in one.
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Correct. The reason the GB is so efficient is because it concentrates the smoke into one bottle, all at the same time. Good high. Another weird thing about the GB is (for me at least), if you use one enough, you can train yourself not to cough even once off of anything (though bowls are still harsh because the smoke is so hot). I've seen people puke from a gb who aren't used to it, but it's really not that bad.
To the OP, a waterfall is a nice little device, but it takes a lot more work than the GB and (even though it's the same principal, and I'm sure it's juat a placebo caused by my love of the GB), but even the waterfall doesn't bring on as nice of a high as the GB. As I said, this is probably a placebo, but you should try one out. If it's in no violation of the rules I could put a few pics of mine up later?
 
theres no rules against pics of paraphernalia, amigo.
do you mean a "bucket" style GB? :P

brings back memories.. a "glass cheque", bucket, and a socket was all you needed! :D
 
Here they are

Well, here are the pics. I thought about including a pic of the cap, but then realized there'd be no point, since you can see the cap anyway.
 

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I think it's a little silly that some people think a different method of smoking will get you higher than the other with the same amount of pot lol. All it ever comes down to is how much you're inhaling over a certain period of time. GB's might get you higher at once cause their more concentrated,but the same amount of green smoked through a pipe or bong will get you just as high if you did it all at once. Only difference is with bongs and pipes,the hits are spaced out more.
 
No offense dragon but that's just not true. How is it then that I can use a fifth of the amount in a bong that would go in a joint,
And get waaAy higher than quadrupLe that amount in a doobie?

Go away and learn2science
 
^ probably because with a joint, ur only actually getting something likt 15 % of the actual thc due to the amount of smoke exhaled as well as smoke that just drifts away when no one is hitting it. with a bong u get something like 72% of the thc out of ur weed. though i cant say that i completely agree with dragon because i do believe that taking a few massive rips will get u higher for a shorter duration whereas taking many hits over a period of time will get u less high for longer. but is suppose this is different for everyone
 
Sega420 said:
No offense dragon but that's just not true. How is it then that I can use a fifth of the amount in a bong that would go in a joint,
And get waaAy higher than quadrupLe that amount in a doobie?

Go away and learn2science
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Haha you say no offense,but then you tell me to go away? Chill out,and don't contradict yourself.And good job reading what I was saying because I specifically never ever mentioned joints. You're welcome to try commenting on my post again,minus the attitude and adding in some reading comprehension.

And yes,a few massive hits will get you higher than taking smaller hits over a longer period. I wasn't debating that. But you can get just as high with a waterfall or GB or bong or pipe if you're using the same amount of pot and taking huge hits. It doesn't seem to me that one is more efficient than the other.
 
I personally believe it's all about who you are. I can say, beyond a shadow of a doubt, a GB gets me higher then anything. 10 GB's (about the amount of a regular bowl) will have me ROMFASAF (Ripped Off My Fucking Ass Stoned As Fuck), where a bowl will have me content. 2 GB's, will have me content. I suppose it's just how your body reacts to it. I know that the first few times I smoked (including a bowl pack of kief) I didn't really get high. Then I hit a Gatorade Bottle GB, started walking home, it started raining... I knew "I'm fucking high. Finally"
 
DexWeedAndMe said:
Correct. The reason the GB is so efficient is because it concentrates the smoke into one bottle, all at the same time. Good high. Another weird thing about the GB is (for me at least), if you use one enough, you can train yourself not to cough even once off of anything (though bowls are still harsh because the smoke is so hot).
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That first part is sooo true, waterfalls make you cough like the devil until you get used to them. I don't cough at all anymore. Bowls still make me cough like crazy though? I think it has something to do with the temperature of the smoke perhaps, since bowl smoke is hot, and waterfall smoke gets very cool
 
It is well established that joints in particular are particularly inefficient, because of how much is lost in the air. Additionally, the smoke condenses on the weed at the mouth-end of the joint, so if something isn't done with the roach, more is lost there.

Pipes reduce the second effect, but there's still resin buildup in the smoking device (which some people recycle, and others consider noxious filth and go out of their way to remove), and because the pipe is less exposed to the air, it usually doesn't "cherry" like a joint does. When smoking a pipe with a carb, a small amount of suction is maintained after releasing the carb, so that you don't get quite the plume of smoke lost into the air like when you finish a hit from a joint - plus, most people cover up the bowl after taking a hit to further reduce waste. That's not possible with a joint.

Bongs/gravitybongs/etc where the bowls are burned entirely in one hit are most efficient in that less smoke is lost to the air- though you do lose a bit by filtering it through water. That would make the GB most efficient (same as a dry bong).

The magnitude of the difference between bong/grav bong/pipe/etc is small though. Probably low double digit %s.
 
i hate waterfalls. my friend smokes exclusively out of one and it grosses me out every time i use. there is so much resin built up on the inside and it looks like there's mold fuzz growing out the neck right where you put your mouth. He also has a slight roach problem in his apartment and one time I was sucking a hit in and I see a fuckin roach in the water!! god damn that was gross.

I also hate it because for some reason he only fills it up halfway with water and you can never get all of the smoke because you either suck too hard and get water in your mouth or don't suck hard enough and it leaves stale smoke in the g.b.
 
Forgive me Dragon, i thought you had meant "one method of smoking doesnt get you higher than another".

i shouldnt post when high.

& dcraver, that is absolutely disgusting.
why would you even go to his house if its that bad?
my head is full of rankness now. gracias.
 
You're forgiven,Sega. For some reason,I got the impression you were high when you posted that haha.
And to DCRaver,yeah,thats fuckin disgusting. I'd find someone else to chill with until he got his place cleaned up lol. And hey you're in VA! I'm in DC! woot!
 
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