"ONE POT" dmt TEK i thought about, sounds too easy, somebody smart help me out

[xbLeAcHx]

"ONE POT" dmt TEK i thought about, sounds too easy, somebody smart help me out

*snip* bit of synthesis talk removed

So, ima cut to the chase. The thought popped into my head why couldn't the same sort of thing be done except with mimosa root bark powder instead of pseudoephedrine. Lye and ammonium nitrate at the bottom, add bark powder and np solvent and cap it and let it jump off the same way.A dry defat could be done on the bark powder beforehand if desired

It seems that doing it like a shake n' bake you would end up with your dmt freebase in the organic solvent.
what i think would be attractive about this if it actually were possible is the lack of water.


I wanna hear some feedback, negative or positive, just don't call me a dumbass, because I'm not, I actually thought about the chemical processes involved. If theres something wrong with it that would make it not work, please tell me why it won't work. I'd like to end up knowing more about this than I started out.
Thnkx

 

[Roger&Me]

1) No synthesis discussion.

2) *snip* 'that' reduction converts an aromatic compound to a cyclohexadiene, while the term "reduction" in the context of methamphetamine synthesis from pseudoephedrine means reducing the number of bonds to oxygen; there are a number of methods to achieve this.

3) You should buy an organic chemistry textbook if you're interested in this stuff. I don't really understand even what you're trying to do, mimosa extractions are just that: extractions. No chemical changes take place.

 

[szuko000]

But there is no chemical process involved in alkaloid extractions. Yes there is a guide to follow but its not changing anything chemically. You should be able to do the whole MHRB extraction in one jug and simply decant the organic layer into a different pot. Also whats up with the whole thing on *synthesis talk* , we dont like that shit here take it out it serves no purpose.

Though i do respect your idea its just too much work for whats already an easy process. Have you ever done an extraction yourself? Just because its easy as all hell and your trying to make it complicated for everyone

 

[Solipsis]

Like Roger&He said: no synth talk so I removed the specifics. But I left the part where you suggest something that doesn't make that much sense anyway.

Let's say this is extraction discussion and I will allow the general principle of reduction explained by Roger and also say a few things about it myself.

Well actually both guys above me have said it already: an extraction is not a chemical reaction, rather it is similar than making coffee where you pull out a chemical that is already there is a source material. There is absolutely no need for those reagents you mentioned because nothing needs to react. The lye that is used in extraction serves the purpose of changing the acidity.

So you see there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding on your part, though there is no need for personal attacks of any kind. Just leave out the talk about synthesis please.

A 'one pot tek' would actually be the STB (straight to base) tek, the solvent and lye are enough to extract. So you are not completely off the mark. Check out STB, I will give you a chance to respond here... but there isn't much future in this thread.

 

[xbLeAcHx]

I understand its just an extraction and sorry for rubbing anyone wrong i apologize.

basically I was just looking for a possible way to go STB without the use of water.

maybe this can't be done for some reason and thats why ive never heard of it before now

i might try a tiny batch and see if the theory works

 

[greenmeanies]

no, STB pretty much requires water in order to dissolve the lye! but it is still basically one pot... just remember that STB you do NOT shake vigorously, as the plant material will quickly create an emulsion.

 

[adrian89987]

I understand its just an extraction and sorry for rubbing anyone wrong i apologize.

basically I was just looking for a possible way to go STB without the use of water.

maybe this can't be done for some reason and thats why ive never heard of it before now

i might try a tiny batch and see if the theory works

Even if it did, what would be the point? to create a more expensive and less environmentally friendly extraction process than DMT extractions already are? You're substituting the use of water for a more dangerous chemical here while still keeping the Lye..

 

[Roger&Me]

basically I was just looking for a possible way to go STB without the use of water.

First of all, a straight to BASE tek necessitates the use of water because basicity is a phenomenon inherent to solutions in water.

Look up the fumaric acid saturated acetone (FASA) tek, which avoids water (although I'm unsure why you would want to avoid water since its so cheap and easy to work with).

i might try a tiny batch and see if the theory works

It will not work.

 

[Solipsis]

I appreciate the sentiment of wanting to make a revolutionary discovery but DMT extraction as it is usually done now is pretty efficient and does not need perfecting. You're not really rubbing anyone the wrong way, but as you may be able to tell expectations are just pretty low. Sorry. It would help if you would understand the basics a bit better, which is not meant to be personal but IMO still true.

If you would be able to give a satisfying answer to the question asked by these other people: 'why?' or 'what is the point?' That would help immensely.