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One cannabis joint can bring on symptoms of Schizophrenia

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Mods feel free to move this to the drugs in the media page, I just thought it would get more of a viewing here and I find this article to be quite entertaining. A lot wrong with it in my opinion, I'm sure some people will agree.


Taken from: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2053486/One-cannabis-joint-bring-schizophrenia.html



Smoking just one cannabis joint can bring on symptoms of schizophrenia, a study has found.
Researchers at the University of Bristol have, for the first time, looked in detail at the changes in the brains of cannabis users.
They found the drug disrupts the same parts of the brain as the psychotic illness, those associated with memory and decision-making.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-joint-bring-schizophrenia.html#ixzz1bwuDeZv9


Smoking just one cannabis joint can bring on symptoms of schizophrenia, a study has found.
Researchers at the University of Bristol have, for the first time, looked in detail at the changes in the brains of cannabis users.
They found the drug disrupts the same parts of the brain as the psychotic illness, those associated with memory and decision-making.

Scientists at the University of Bristol found that even one cannabis joint could trigger schizophrenia
Cannabis abuse has previously been linked with increased rates of schizophrenia but this is the strongest evidence yet that the drug mimics its effects.
The scientists studied rats who had been given the active ingredient of cannabis - in a similar dose to a person smoking a joint.


Using electrodes embedded into their brains – which cannot be done in humans – they found those who had the drug were ‘significantly impaired’ in carrying out tasks for up to two hours afterwards.
If this dose of cannabis has the same effect on humans, just one joint could significantly change their behaviour.
Dr Matt Jones, the lead author of the study said: ‘Cannabis is making normal people behave more like schizophrenia patients when they take it and that’s something they should bear in mind.
‘Previous studies have shown a link but we didn’t have this level of detail.
'What we have shown is that the brain waves which process information and share it with other regions of the brain become de-synchronised like parts of an orchestra playing out of synch.
‘Cannabis has a docile reputation in the drug world. Most people would accept that cannabis abusers are not at their sharpest and might have subtle impairments in memory or decision making but sometimes small doses of the ingredient can cause psychiatric episodes similar to schizophrenia.'

In experiments, the rats who were given cannabis all became unable to make accurate decisions when navigating around a maze, compared with those who had not been given any.
Two parts of their brain were shown to be affected - the hippocampus which is essential for forming new memories and prefrontal cortex which integrates those memories and uses them for future behaviour and decision-making.
Disruption of the brain waves which allow these two areas to communicate is what happens in schizophrenia, a mental disorder.
It is associated with muddled thought which causes problems in social interaction, bizarre and paranoid delusions and changes in behaviour.
Dr Jones added: ‘You might feel fine – the rats overt behaviour did not look impaired - but when asked to make rapid and accurate decisions following a joint of cannabis, the cross-talk between these parts of the brain was not normal.
‘Taking cannabis while sitting on the couch watching DVDs is one thing, but if you decide to drive to the shops, that’s when the cognitive impairments come out.’
He said super-strong versions of cannabis – known as ‘skunk’ – contain a higher proportion of the active ingredient THC and would most likely have an even more pronounced effect.
The researchers, whose study is published today in the Journal of Neuroscience, hope further research will help them develop treatments for these effects which could help people with mental illnesses.
Schizophrenia is linked to a number of genes, and previous studies have shown cannabis use can accelerate the risk of developing the disease in people who are already pre-disposed to get it.
An analysis of 83 studies earlier this year involving 22,000 young people, concluded that smoking cannabis can accelerate the onset of psychotic illnesses by several years making them harder to treat successfully.
Recently scientists in Germany and the Institute of Psychiatry in London found people who use cannabis are doubling their risk of developing psychotic problems – including schizophrenia as well as paranoid ideas, hallucination and hearing voices.
They looked at 1,900 young people aged 14 to 24 and found a link at a very early stage of use among youngsters who had never experienced such symptoms before.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-joint-bring-schizophrenia.html#ixzz1bwuSI2u8
 
Well it's not really an Australian article... but then again neither was the other one posted the other day. I might leave this for now or do a re-direct later...
 
It was actually published in todays Advertiser here in Adelaide which is where I originally saw it, so the media obviously see it as relevant due to the amount of stoners there are here. haha
 
Daily mail is a trash rag I wouldn't wipe myself with after taking a dump :|
 
Using electrodes embedded into their brains – which cannot be done in humans – they found those who had the drug were ‘significantly impaired’ in carrying out tasks for up to two hours afterwards.
If this dose of cannabis has the same effect on humans, just one joint could significantly change their behaviour.

So smoking a J, makes you high for 2 hours? Who knew 8o
 
This can happen to some people. I had this happen to me - weed gave me scizo episode. It is the last drug on the planet I would take again, more into opiates now......
 
A shit article, for sure.

Smoking just one cannabis joint can bring on symptoms of schizophrenia, a study has found.
Scientists at the University of Bristol found that even one cannabis joint could trigger schizophrenia

So which is it? Does it just bring on the symptoms, or actual schizophrenia? I think this is deliberately unclear for the scare factor. Bringing on symptoms and bringing on the actual disease are very different things.

‘Cannabis has a docile reputation in the drug world. Most people would accept that cannabis abusers are not at their sharpest and might have subtle impairments in memory or decision making but sometimes small doses of the ingredient can cause psychiatric episodes similar to schizophrenia.'

Saying it's similar doesn't mean it is schizophrenia.

This seems to me like the usual article filled with hyperbole and scare tactics.

If this dose of cannabis has the same effect on humans, just one joint could significantly change their behaviour.

Mm I think that's the point ;)
 
A shit article, for sure.




So which is it? Does it just bring on the symptoms, or actual schizophrenia? I think this is deliberately unclear for the scare factor. Bringing on symptoms and bringing on the actual disease are very different things.



Saying it's similar doesn't mean it is schizophrenia.

This seems to me like the usual article filled with hyperbole and scare tactics.



Mm I think that's the point ;)


Brain scans of a schizophrenic person are near to identical with some people on pot - but it is merely a form of 'temporary schizophrenia"...scary as shit though, I hated it.
 
Wow what a load of fucking crap.
Basically this is saying, basically we gave a bunch of drugs to tiny little rats, you know a different species to us and we found that they were severely intoxicated, which surprised us even though rodents are not much heavier than a joint I'd roll on a Friday night. So they inject this rodent with it's weight worth of marijuana in the form of pure THC, (despite the fact we all know that THC is not the only active ingredient in weed, far from it) and then because the rat was intoxicated it's somehow proof that weed is bad for humans and also that it causes schizophrenia, or schizophrenia like symptoms, and you fart gas that turns your inside out and your lungs turn into dried up prunes and whatever else they want to try and stuff down people throats!

Significantly alter your behaviour for two hours hey?
Hmmm what's another drug I know that will alter my behaviour for two hours? Oh yeah a few shots of vodka from the local liquor, there's one near you.

Sick of this hypocrisy. One day we will see drug law reform though I do truly believe it.
 
So if cannabis has been around that long how come they only found out now? They say things about everything thesedays. One day is good the next day it isnt and vice versa.
 
It's possible dude.

Possible is not what this article presents though. I've seen people going crazy with weed, they either smoke way too much or are just really unlucky with their genes from what I've seen.
They're not saying hey it's unlikely but possible, they're making it out like if you smoke week you will get schizophrenia, and yes it's possible but it doesn't mean it's also not misleading and that the science quoted to back it up is absolutely ridiculous.

Not to mention I also vaguely recall a recent article talking about low calcium levels coinciding with schizophrenia caused by marijuana use, but don't quote me on that I can't quite remember.
 
Being conceived in spring has a higher correlation with developing schizophrenia than smoking weed does :p (The hypothesis is the mother having certain viruses such as the flu have an impact on the feotus in the first trimester).

I hate weed, I get a worse 'trip' on that than most psychs. However I disagree with it causing 'temporary schizophrenia'. Scizophrenia by definition is not temporary. And even disregarding that, brain scans are very inaccurate to the point of being virtually useless but for the most dramatic of brain states. A methamphetamine high looks like a 'flight or fight' response on a simple brain scan that tests for glucose expenditure/energy levels in the brain. However whilst methamphetamine definitely can and often does involve and element of fear and anxiety, that's not the whole story. Likewise, a cannabis high likely has many subtleties.
 
Abusing psychoactive chemicals can worsen ,and in svere cases of abuse of powerful psychadelics, cause mental health problems. Logical argumnet for warning people against problems from substance abuse.

One cannabis joint could trigger schizophrenia. Scare tactics that will not help one single person.
 
Abusing psychoactive chemicals can worsen ,and in svere cases of abuse of powerful psychadelics, cause mental health problems. Logical argumnet for warning people against problems from substance abuse.

One cannabis joint could trigger schizophrenia. Scare tactics that will not help one single person.

^ Yes. What sloth said.
 
the english press where this article originated from has really been pushing the anti-marijuana message recently. Tackling this drugs over there has seemed to become an official priority with harsher police penalties as a result of many recent anti-marijuana politics going down. Interestingly this has resulted in it being more prominent in both the news and academic literature. Infact there are examples of contradictory studies and reports actively opposing eachother originating from the european media and the 'Californian movement'

However re: HR this article raises some interesting points
 
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