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Once you go dilly, you don't go back ..?

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john24

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Been fighting a chronic pain disorder for years now.

I went from Hydrocodone to Dilaudid over 2 years ago. Seems like once I went Dilaudid (4mg...3 times daily) , I have no desire to go back on anything else.

I've never tried Heroin, and not ever looking to try it. Was kinda surprised reading this thread - http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/548534-Heroin-or-Dilaudid-Hydromorphone , seems like a lot of conflicting info whether or not D's are stronger than Heroin.

I'm interested in the whole chemical makeup of Dillies , and how they differ from Oxy's and Heroin. Even how they were initially created / discovered ? I've read in places that it's generally considered 4 times stronger than Heroin...but then others will disagree. Wish we could get a strong consensus / agreement here. It's like I wanna know everything about Dilaudid.

By the way, a year ago..my pain doc tried to put me on Morphine Sulfate... And I was practically begging to have my D's back. MS made me sooo sad and was like a severe downer. A horrible downer....it wasn't withdrawal either, because it was only happen when I took the MS. After that episode we swiftly switched back to Dillies, where I still feel happily ever after at. Almost 3 years of dillies. It's like I wanna know everything about this drug. Like if it's stronger than Oxy's and Heroin, how is it stronger...what makes it stronger ? Who initially discovered / created it ? all the technical details.
 
Geographically stronger. Depends where your at. Price is high as h where h isn't prolific as big citys
 
Well hydro is garbage so anything beats that lol. IMO orally dilaudid is no good , Oxys got em beat orally IMHO. I've only been ived 1 mg multiple times in the hospital but I'll take a 15mg oxy taken orally over 1mg Iv dilaudid all day but that's just me... Never tried h but I gotta think h is waaaay stronger.
 
Agreed with the oral aspect, D is crapola....but o well.

Just wondering from others that have been on D for awhile...if they feel like me.

It's been years and I still feel like the dillies are all i need. (same dose as well) Even though most say opiates don't damage the brain...(just change the chemistry or whatever) ...but it's weird how I could never go on morphine or morphine sulfate anymore. It's so weak and depressing to me...even if I was completely withdrawn from it

maybe it messed up a part of my head, that I always feel like that towards morphine or morphine sulfate no matter what. (permanently changed the wiring ? ) 8(
 
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Dilly is about as god as codeine orally but IV is a whole other beat. I went from being able to get a rush from 4mg's IV to banging 3 18mg hydromorph contins to get any rush at all. Personally i would say stick with morphine or even oxy as they are far less addictive then dilaudid.
 
paranoid android said:
Dilly is about as god as codeine orally but IV is a whole other beat. I went from being able to get a rush from 4mg's IV to banging 3 18mg hydromorph contins to get any rush at all. Personally i would say stick with morphine or even oxy as they are far less addictive then dilaudid.
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aren't oxy's more sociable though? that's one thing I don't like about these....is how I practically act high over everything.

I could look at a nail in the wall, and talk about how amazing it looks...for 2 hours.

only back to normal again once it wears off.
 
You're right about morphine, it makes me sad as well.......talk about a downer. I feel happy on hydrocodone & other stuff. Never tried dillies tho .........
 
It's the crack of opiates for sure and with good reason, super powerful and addictive when IVd and less so when snorted...but tolerance to it seems to develop so quickly and it has no legs or high really to speak of after the rush. For me it seems like the negatives outweigh the positives. Id take a 30mg oxy over a 8mg D any day...
 
Thanks.

So oxy's last longer...but not as strong. How's the initial rush...and does it last longer, and in a more spread-out fashion?

Like overall how would you say the Oxy rush differs from the D rush. ?

I've tried Hydros but not Oxys. Since Hydros chemically seem so similar to Oxys...just weaker , i've decided never to try em. maybe I should ?

I appreciate it.
 
If you like to be energetic & like to be sociable, Oxy is for you. Lots of people like working on it. Its definitely different than hydrocodone........I for one like hydrocodone better than oxy because I font like getting the energetic feeling with the added agitation that cones from oxy, at least for me.
 
I found dilly to be by far the most addictive opioid I've had and I've had most right from (Dextro)propoxyphene right up to fentanyl. After awile it basically just gave me a few minutes rush followed by getting sick about 6 hours later.
 
Some people get an "energy" rush from oxy, some don't, it's all to do with body chem. and how often u use it I think. Oxy, to me anyway, is just a much cleaner, stronger, euphoric feeling. Of course all that goes away, just like any opiate, after awhile. I've only taken it orally so that may have something to do with my preference. In terms of feeling I liken hydro to more like umm, more like a morphine feeling, kinda dull and u gotta search around to see if ur feeling anything at all, whereas oxy lets u know what's goin on. It's all personal preference I suppose. I prefer oxy even over fentanyl(some think I'm nuts), it's just a better "buzz" IMO. Maybe it your shooting or sniffing them it's much diff. Idk...
 
paranoid android said:
I found dilly to be by far the most addictive opioid I've had and I've had most right from (Dextro)propoxyphene right up to fentanyl.
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I'll agree and go a step further saying it's the most addicting prescription med out of everything / anything. Since it's several times stronger and rush is more intense than morphine. A lot even prefer the rush of dilly over heroin.

i'll admit i'm a pretty strong will'd person...and 5 years ago, you wouldn't of been able to get me addicted to anything. It really can be a soul robber...no matter how strong you think you are.
 
john24 said:
I'll agree and go a step further saying it's the most addicting prescription med out of everything / anything. Since it's several times stronger and rush is more intense than morphine. A lot even prefer the rush of dilly over heroin.

i'll admit i'm a pretty strong will'd person...and 5 years ago, you wouldn't of been able to get me addicted to anything. It really can be a soul robber...no matter how strong you think you are.
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The only drug I've found more addictive then IV dilaudid was IV coke. Mixing the 2 together in a speedball is a good way to have your whole life focus around dilly and blow i'll give it that much. At my worst with dilaudid i would shoot 54mg's at a time every 4-6 hours. Usually on top of a anti-histamine like promethazine, doxylamine, etc just to add to the kick. Not 5 minutes after the shot and i would be pretty much sober again and counting down the hours till my next shot.

I never found morphine to be as addictive as dilly because atleast morphine lasts a long time even when taken IV. I never IVed oxy but i never found it very addictive when eating it or snorting it. I did get addicted to it but it was nowhere near as bad as dilly or even morphine. I found fentanyl to lack virtually any euphoria whether i wore the patch, put a heat pack on it, ate the gel, took the gel subligually, smoked it or snorted the frozen gel. By the way please don't fuck around with fentanyl as many a BLer has ended up dead that way. I just found fent to be great for pain but not addictive at all as it lacked any euphoria. Dilaudid was kind of the opposite as it was all kick and nothing else.
 
At my worst with dilaudid i would shoot 54mg's at a time every 4-6 hours.
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dude, that's nuts. And not to be a prick, but it's bad for others to see posts like this as well. (increasing their chance to OD) as they'll see this, and think

"ohh, since others have done this amount....I guess I can to".

that's an extremely dangerous amount, and would cause many to OD.

Not solely criticizing you either...as I see it everyday in other threads / sites, etc.... people posting extremely high amounts like it's nothing. (to try to show off or whatever)

morphine just made me super sad and nothing else...could never go on that again. Haven't tried Oxy, but good too see another saying it's not as impressive as Dilly.

I tried Fentanyl patches. It took me awhile of use, to respect it's deep sense of sleepy type euphoria...and feeling very comfortable around others. But yea, it definitely lacked a sense of 'rush' of any type. Dangerous indeed...since such small amounts are very powerful.
 
john24 said:
dude, that's nuts. And not to be a prick, but it's bad for others to see posts like this as well. (increasing their chance to OD) as they'll see this, and think

"ohh, since others have done this amount....I guess I can to".

that's an extremely dangerous amount, and would cause many to OD.

Not solely criticizing you either...as I see it everyday in other threads / sites, etc.... people posting extremely high amounts like it's nothing. (to try to show off or whatever)

morphine just made me super sad and nothing else...could never go on that again. Haven't tried Oxy, but good too see another saying it's not as impressive as Dilly.

I tried Fentanyl patches. It took me awhile of use, to respect it's deep sense of sleepy type euphoria...and feeling very comfortable around others. But yea, it definitely lacked a sense of 'rush' of any type. Dangerous indeed...since such small amounts are very powerful.
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I didn't mean to glorify it at all i simply meant it as a example of just how fucked up it can get and out of control it can get. I really wouldn't wish it on anybody and since i came off that cold turkey yeah it was hell. I used to wake up sick everyday and it was awful and i certainly wouldn't tell anyone to do it. The negatives far outweigh the positives.
 
it's all good man, at-least you understand it all.

I don't think most others do.

How often do we see others posting absurd amounts, and acting all nonchalant about it... quite frequently.
 
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