On TRT and thinking about increasing my test dose

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I am still kind of new to all this. Currently i am on 200mg's every 2 weeks of test cyp. It has helped me alot with energy and muscle gaining. was originally on 150mg's of test every 2 weeks but i increased that myself. I am thinking of increasing it to 200mg's a week and go from there.

Any side effects at higher doses i may run into? Im mainly worried about hair loss but havet experienced any yet
 
What are your stats? Age? Height? How long have you been training etc?

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I'm 39 been using them on and off since I was 31. Ive pretty much used everything you can imagine but the best Imo is 500mg of test cyp or enth and 50mg anavar. Eat clean and lift heavy you will look like a Greek God.
 
What are your stats? Age? Height? How long have you been training etc?

Start researching anabolics on YouTube. Endless hours of information regarding side effects, compounds, doses etc

I'm 39 been using them on and off since I was 31. Ive pretty much used everything you can imagine but the best Imo is 500mg of test cyp or enth and 50mg anavar. Eat clean and lift heavy you will look like a Greek God.


Im 43 5'9 and about 205ish. Have been lifting over 2 years now one wth test
 
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I had a blood test a week and a quarter ago with my doctors centre for checking wether I need trt , my level came back as 3.nmol the lowest average is 6.nmol for males aged 50 and I have been pinning (as an experimental test) testosterone for five weeks! On anabolic and I am still half lower than the lowest average for 50, god knows how low my level is when off anabolics, and on that note I have stopped/run out of) using the testosterone so I am natural and negative for any more blood tests as being transferred to the endicroligist, not sure how long it will take until my first appointment with them and not sure if/how long it will/would/maybe that I get prescribed trt, I don't want to be buying underground lab/pharma off the web as I don't know exactly what I could be injecting, just stopped crack and I don't need another addiction, doctors trt yes officially safe gear maybe not big Arnie bodybuilding dosage but clean and trusted pharma!
 
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Im 43 5'9 and about 205ish. Have been lifting over 2 years now one wth test
Just increase your calories. More carbs and more protein moderate fats. Bump up the test and see how you feel/react.

I would suggest 250mg per ml or 200mg depending on the lab/vial. If you are reacting well to test you should be fine.

You would be above trt but you still won't tax your system with stuff like anadrol or tren etc.
 
@paranoid android

Which type of test is it? I'm assuming it's test cypionate or test enanthate, as those are the common ones in Canada.

A once every 2 weeks protocol is not ideal and I'm not sure why some doctors still do this. The only exception is test undecanoate, which has a much longer half life of 10-12 days.

Going from 200/2 weeks to 200/week is basically doubling your dose. I am not privy to your blood work and I'm not a doctor, but the general starting dose for men in TRT clinics is 150-200mg/week. Most men divide that into two doses of 75-100mg twice per week.

Shorter dosing intervals will cause less radical spikes and troughs in your blood hormone levels. The goal is maintain blood levels as stable and constant as possible, which is much harder to achieve at once every 2 weeks. By the time day 13 comes, you are in a much lower trough compared to days 1-3 after injection. This is why dividing it into twice a week is better... it prevents spikes.

I would say, without knowing blood work, 200mg/wk is likely to put you into the supraphysiologic range, but not in all cases. I recommend dosing lower than that, waiting a few weeks, and then doing your blood work for total T, free T, bioavailable T, and estradiol (E2). The wild card here is E2. You ideally want to control that by finding the "sweet spot" dose of T per week. Increasing T increases E2 and you don't want excess E2... it raises blood pressure, gives you gyno, makes you moody, makes your dick not work, etc. If your dosing interval isn't short enough, then the T spike will pour over into E2. That's why I advise being under 200/week to start, in divided doses. There's no way you'll be deficient in T at 150mg/wk and you can always experiment with increasing after your blood work to see what a slightly higher level feels like.

More T is not necessarily better unless your goal is to blast and bodybuild. Then that would be a different conversation. If we're talking strictly TRT, then the above advice is the most relevant.
 
@paranoid android

Which type of test is it? I'm assuming it's test cypionate or test enanthate, as those are the common ones in Canada.

A once every 2 weeks protocol is not ideal and I'm not sure why some doctors still do this. The only exception is test undecanoate, which has a much longer half life of 10-12 days.

Going from 200/2 weeks to 200/week is basically doubling your dose. I am not privy to your blood work and I'm not a doctor, but the general starting dose for men in TRT clinics is 150-200mg/week. Most men divide that into two doses of 75-100mg twice per week.

Shorter dosing intervals will cause less radical spikes and troughs in your blood hormone levels. The goal is maintain blood levels as stable and constant as possible, which is much harder to achieve at once every 2 weeks. By the time day 13 comes, you are in a much lower trough compared to days 1-3 after injection. This is why dividing it into twice a week is better... it prevents spikes.

I would say, without knowing blood work, 200mg/wk is likely to put you into the supraphysiologic range, but not in all cases. I recommend dosing lower than that, waiting a few weeks, and then doing your blood work for total T, free T, bioavailable T, and estradiol (E2). The wild card here is E2. You ideally want to control that by finding the "sweet spot" dose of T per week. Increasing T increases E2 and you don't want excess E2... it raises blood pressure, gives you gyno, makes you moody, makes your dick not work, etc. If your dosing interval isn't short enough, then the T spike will pour over into E2. That's why I advise being under 200/week to start, in divided doses. There's no way you'll be deficient in T at 150mg/wk and you can always experiment with increasing after your blood work to see what a slightly higher level feels like.

More T is not necessarily better unless your goal is to blast and bodybuild. Then that would be a different conversation. If we're talking strictly TRT, then the above advice is the most relevant.

Honestly doctors here are fucking idiots when it comes to TRT. They didnt even send the right needles to the pharmacy for me ffs. And ya its test cyp.

Im going to wait until i get my blood work back before doing anything anyway. Im looking to get big but not bodybuilder big. Ive already put on alot of muscle on TRT

Thats for the advice
 
Honestly doctors here are fucking idiots when it comes to TRT. They didnt even send the right needles to the pharmacy for me ffs. And ya its test cyp.

Im going to wait until i get my blood work back before doing anything anyway. Im looking to get big but not bodybuilder big. Ive already put on alot of muscle on TRT

Thats for the advice

Test cyp has a half life of 7-8 days, so every 2 weeks isn't going to kill you... but it's not ideal. If you can switch to twice per week dosing, I think you'd see positive changes just from that. Once every 2 weeks is a really old protocol... like, think 1995.

Most doctors in Canada are dipshits when it comes to TRT, including endocrinologists. I have never heard a positive story except out of TRT clinics, which is why they are flourishing.
 
Test cyp has a half life of 7-8 days, so every 2 weeks isn't going to kill you... but it's not ideal. If you can switch to twice per week dosing, I think you'd see positive changes just from that. Once every 2 weeks is a really old protocol... like, think 1995.

Most doctors in Canada are dipshits when it comes to TRT, including endocrinologists. I have never heard a positive story except out of TRT clinics, which is why they are flourishing.

50mg's twice a week ya that's doable.

I have a appointment to see a endrocrinologist but in Newfoundland thats going to take years. I might see if i can pay for a nurse practinoier that specilizes in TRT
 
50mg's twice a week ya that's doable.

I have a appointment to see a endrocrinologist but in Newfoundland thats going to take years. I might see if i can pay for a nurse practinoier that specilizes in TRT

If you can swing the fee for a TRT specialist, just do that. The endo will more than likely be at the same level as your GP.

Cool that you have an Rx at all though! It's really hard to get one of those in the regular public health system in Canada. Like... next to impossible.
 
If you can swing the fee for a TRT specialist, just do that. The endo will more than likely be at the same level as your GP.

Cool that you have an Rx at all though! It's really hard to get one of those in the regular public health system in Canada. Like... next to impossible.

Ya im lucky to have a script. I know so many people who have to go through the black market for it
 
Only side effects I've noticed (havn't had a blood test yet but am going to soon) from a bigger dose are really bad stomach acid and insomnia.
 
I’m in Canada and have a legit script for depo-Testosterone 200mg IM everyn2-weeks

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Only side effects I've noticed (havn't had a blood test yet but am going to soon) from a bigger dose are really bad stomach acid and insomnia.

What dose are you on? I have insomnia already and dont need it to be made worse
 
3 weeks into taking 150mg's of test a week and no side effects yet anyway. Im going to wait 2 months to see if i get any hair shedding or anything to increase my dose
 
Hey. So idk if im in the right thread. If not I apologize. My test was just tested and I scored a 67. I feel like shit. My Medicare insurance won't pay for rx shots. Im still working on that hopefully I cant change that. How do I go about raising my test? I don't know much about it. Im trying to educate myself. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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