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On the Demonisation of Methamphetamine on Bluelight

^Every single credible historian disagrees. The man was completely insane. Delusion doesn't begin to shed light on how purely evil he was.

I think it's good that this post saw a lot of conversation, despite some things lol. 12 pages in a little over a week.

Hitler had syphilis, thankfully, which takes a big toll on the brain. He also had parkinson's disease, with a noticeable tremor before he did the best thing ever by taking his own life like a bitch. The guy was a vegetarian, but his doctor would give him regular injections of hormones from animals.

Believe it or not, the nazis didn't really use meth all that much after the first few months of the war. They even considered it addictive decades before the US did. This doesn't at all obscure their horny desire to make the absolute wworst out of mankind.
 
Kaden_Nite said:
Although I hadn't actually seen the calculated targeting of meth-users on Bluelight, I figured it must be an issue here due to the essay written about it in the OP. Then I remembered "oh yeah, meth! Exacerbating non-issues since 1893".
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Ah. But i haven’t had any stimulants for something like 3 weeks. So I don’t think it can rightly be called a meth-fuelled post.

My posting style when tweaking was far less thoughtful and way more hit and run trying to get reactions in 16 different threads at once.

Sadly quitting meth seems to be quickly killing my relationship with BL. Partly because now I only take dissociatives and psychedelics that make it physically impossiblr to sit up straight, read & write. Partly because it all seems way more negative than when I was in a perpetually enthused mood about everyone and everything. And partly because it’s no longer the major attraction of stereotypy I no longer suffer and I got other stuff to do.
 
Perforated said:
Sadly quitting meth seems to be quickly killing my relationship with BL. Partly because now I only take dissociatives and psychedelics that make it physically impossiblr to sit up straight, read & write. Partly because it all seems way more negative than when I was in a perpetually enthused mood about everyone and everything. And partly because it’s no longer the major attraction of stereotypy I no longer suffer and I got other stuff to do.
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Come post in PD, we'd love to have your input there. :)
 
Putting my bias aside, I wish the thread hadn't gone silent, so to speak. Although there were some hot tempers the thread is also quite educational. One thing a poster wrote was maybe our perceptions are based on our demographic as well. What we see in our daily lives dictates our feelings on most things. And just because we have one certain element of a sub culture around us doesn't mean everyone fits in that category.

I, as well as others, let our passion and our bias cloud our judgments sometimes. At first I didn't think there was much harm reduction in the posts, but having re-read them I changed my mind.

Most times we all mean well but those pesky ol' emotions get in the way.
 
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Pumpkin2021 said:
Putting my bias aside, I wish the thread hadn't gone silent, so to speak.
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maybe that'll help bring it back to life :)
 
Pumpkin2021 said:
One thing a poster wrote was maybe our perceptions are based on our demographic as well.
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I don't think it is just our preceptions that are partly determined by our deomographic. I think it is also our ability to use and handle different substances. When I was amongst the hoi polloi drug use had to be managed so it was never detected by family and peers to whom it was a dangerous and degenerate activity for the most part. This kind of put a natural break on usage as did being brought up with ambitions and strong ideas about what a "good" life and person was.

On the other hand when I spent a few years hanging out with people who were most third-or even fourth-generation welfare families, substance abuse was so normalised and the idea of getting ahead in life so laughably remote that there really no reasons to put a cap on how fucked up you were getting.
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
maybe that'll help bring it back to life :)
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Maybe consider contributing something useful instead of attempts at deliberately upsetting people without making a valid point.

I read through a lot of your posts, and I know you’re capable of valuable contribution, even if I disagree with some of your points. I also find it interesting you were a C.O. That makes sense to me and gives some insight into your personality. I gathered you’re no longer a C.O. though and wonder why, what happened, and what you do now. In turn, I wondered: how much does one’s profession influence their view of drugs and likelihood to demonize certain ones?

I suppose most people are the product of their respective environments.
 
unodelacosa said:
Maybe consider contributing something useful instead of attempts at deliberately upsetting people without making a valid point.
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^^This part of your post unnecessarily combative. You’ve also upset a few people in this thread. Everyone needs to learn the value of unilateral de-escalation in the pursuit of the greater good. Then good conversations will flourish.
unodelacosa said:
I read through a lot of your posts, and I know you’re capable of valuable contribution, even if I disagree with some of your points. I also find it interesting you were a C.O. That makes sense to me and gives some insight into your personality. I gathered you’re no longer a C.O. though and wonder why, what happened, and what you do now. In turn, I wondered: how much does one’s profession influence their view of drugs and likelihood to demonize certain ones?
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^^ This part of your post very constructive and useful and I think everyone would be interested in what former C.O. @Mr. Krinkle has to say seriously about this.
unodelacosa said:
I suppose most people are the product of their respective environments.
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^^ This part the subtle and ambiguous sting in the tail of a post that I adore.

(These comments may be considered professional moderation rather than personal opinions, except the last one maybe).
 
I remember being back in 2009, I was back then visiting Spain right and I was curious about their culture and they said ''recently, here in Huelva we had a morphine outbreak'' imagine doing morphine that often wasn't much later until I knew that there was 40 percent of WE affected by a morphine outbreak. I think meth is far better what we see nowadays, more like a statement to our current world that we see it when the sun has it's flares up on the sky
 
Perforated said:
^^This part of your post unnecessarily combative.
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No, it was an honest suggestion. Post #245 is a mildly trolling shitpost masquerading as humor.

I stand by that advice: contribute meaningfully and thoughtfully instead of giving people a hard time while not having one goddamn valid point. Animated gifs flipping the bird is not meaningful discourse. Somehow I don’t think I caused him any grief either. Live and let live.
Perforated said:
You’ve also upset a few people in this thread.
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Boy you love pointing this out. Look, I admitted my reaction should’ve been kinder and I said sorry to the one person for whom my apology was due. I had a knee-jerk reaction because someone’s sudden injection of personal tragedy into the discussion … frankly, makes me uncomfortable, which is my own fault, and I‘m forced to deal with my own insecurities. I’m afraid of dying and also afraid of losing loved ones, despite the futility of these fears. I’m uncomfortably forced to consider mortality. Dropping out PTSD bombshells feels like an unfair cheap shot mid-discussion. Many a bad law has been written in response to a community’s overreaction to tragedy. But that’s my own hang-up; I mean who the fuck am I to say how another should grieve?

Anyway in hindsight I fucked that up. And I apologized for it, but was forced to start dismantling random jokers and their rage-belching, dog-shit comments, to put it delicately.

It’s impossible to opine anything publicly without risking offending others. However, even if some people get all butt hurt by what I post, I’m at least making relevant arguments, posting links, and contributing in a way that matters. Moreover, I admit when I’m wrong, and I think people mistake my tone sometimes.

Or I’m just completely delusional… always possible.
Perforated said:
Everyone needs to learn the value of unilateral de-escalation in the pursuit of the greater good.
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I’ve re-written and/or removed harsh responses on here many, many times for the cause of unilateral de-escalation, and the greater good is my focus and reason for posting. Dammit, man.
Perforated said:
Then good conversations will flourish.
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So you’re saying we’re not having good conversations? Well everyone is a critic…
Perforated said:
^^ This part of your post very constructive and useful and I think everyone would be interested in what former C.O. @Mr. Krinkle has to say seriously about this.
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Counselors, medical staff, dental staff, and there’s usually an administration office working for the Warden and Associate Warden. I was under the impression they were all still trained in the basics and technically were counted as correctional officers. Everyone else has to be accompanied by c.o.’s and is otherwise contracting with the prison.

But I get being reticent to discuss one’s occupation here, particularly law enforcement officers who I guess are both present but also sometimes not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Perforated said:
^^ This part the subtle and ambiguous sting in the tail of a post that I adore.
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To be fair, I meant that as much for myself as for others. I’m no exception to this rule, but I also believe in personal change and emotional growth, and that we don’t always have to remain in the same environment. Thus we are free to pursue becoming a reinvented product of a different environment of our choosing.
Perforated said:
(These comments may be considered professional moderation rather than personal opinions, except the last one maybe).
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Fair enough
 
unodelacosa said:
It’s impossible to opine anything publicly without risking offending others. However, even if some people get all butt hurt by what I post, I’m at least making relevant arguments, posting links, and contributing in a way that matters. Moreover, I admit when I’m wrong, and I think people mistake my tone sometimes.
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well you're a raging lunatic at times...it's all good tho - i think you're alright.....you didn't have to meltdown over :gaydance: did ya?

im flippin ya shit obviously but you asked me 3 times "what do you mean by that?!?!?? that's homophobic! raaahhh!!!"


tell me that wasn't you :)
 
BenzoBrain^^ said:
Vaped Methamphetamine gives me instant boners...so it's a pretty cool drug!

Crack is whack though

This one addict I know is always rambling about black dicks and lesbian cat porn.

Last time I saw him he started talking about us DPing this woman we both know as my cat goes "meow meow" while filming it

I've pretty much had to stop answering my phone and door after 8pm because of this.
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Sounds like typical crack hijinks
 
To me Meth like trying to Sprint all day instead of just being in a 10K run. You burn out all the Dopamine in your Brain and then expect to get
good feeling again the next day and it's impossible . Sorry I learned to the EXACT how to really enjoy getting BLISS and not wasting the Brain and Body. My suggestion leave that stuff alone and learn how to recharge and enjoy the right things. Not something Germans invented to keep what was left of their soldiers trying to fight a fruitless battle. Alexander Shulgin was my savior ......YEAH! And then 1990s they created Techno to really add spice to Rolling!
 
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