On Methadone Maintenace Therapy - Could Really Use Some Advice/Help

I love how cheap methadone is. My insurance has a deductible that needs to be met before I can get my scripts for 10 bucks a pop, but even with the deductible, methadone costs about the same. Tis real nice. Just wish amphetamine salts didn't get so expensive this year. Gabapentin is decently cheap as well, not as cheap as methadone, but it really isn't to bad. I really like gabapentin too. It's not very strong in anyway, but it's mood stabilization effects, as well as social anxiety effects are beautiful. Solid drug with zero side-effects ime.
 
Ugh, just recently woke up. Feel like shit, but at least it goes away after about an hour of being on my feet - even if I don't take my methadone right away (as I have found out recently).

Could a lack of oxygen during sleep be causing this? I've been told by my roommate that ever since I started the methadone program, I now snore very loud, "and you sound at times like the snoring is unnatural, like you're gasping for air..." - and that's not normal for me since I had my tonsils and nasal polyps removed when I was about 9 (I never used to snore since then).

Makes sense right? Somewhat? I mean, there have been a ton of deaths from a combination of Methadone and Xanax. And a lot of the time, the victim is heard or found snoring really loudly before succumbing to respiratory failure.

I wish that damn sleep clinic would call me already.

Yeah the generic gabapentin here is dirt cheap as well. I asked my pharmacy how much one month's supply is for my dosage and it comes to $8.44. It's cheaper than the dispensing fee ($10), LOL. Well, I thought it's funny.
 
that was just part of the methadone program for me. i asked several times for them to split the dose so i could take half in the morning and half at night, but that's illegal... sigh

I know this has been posted since a little while, but not too long so I'll add my 2 cents. I know I mostly deal with americans around here but I know I speak for every northern brother here when I say : wow that is fucked up.

I know a guy who continued to get high with things he couldn't (weed is tolerated here, and it's too hard to prove you toke all the time or just once a week, the tests aren't quantified : speed he wasn't scripted to, other opiates, w/e) and although he had no real privileges, he still could have a bottle with 1/4 of his dose at night to sleep better.

Thank fuck health is completely a provincial issue here...because the bad guy here is the federal government in almost all cases, while you guys have states who yeah, sure, they do what they want, but follow rules that are way more cruel than the federal guidelines. In almost everything but weed anyway from my decade+ of interacting with my southern brothers. ugh.
 
Just a little update since this thread was bumped:

- I'm now down to 80mg of methadone, and I can't wait to get off, although, I'm worried about cravings returning.
- Several generic brands/versions of Lyrica are now available for prescription (even though the patent apparently doesn't expire until 2018).
- Effective May 1st, 2013, most brands of Lyrica, including the original by Pfizer are now covered by ODB (Ontario Drug Benefits). No more EAP (Exceptional Access Program) required. That's $155 I now do not need to pay, which is a huge help.

Methadone may have saved my life, but it also fucked up my health in certain ways, and it changed my personality (but the benefits have outweighed the risks). I cannot wait to lose all this damn weight, and the other side effects associated with chronic opioid use, such as the sweating, the dry mouth, constipation (I lost count how many times I've flooded my toilet in the past few years). Most of all, I cannot wait to get back to feeling normal.
 
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I feel you man, im in the process of tapering down from 110 and it sucks, but i just had to. I feel like this cheery red liquid is rotting me from the insides out. The weight gain, gerd, acid refl?ux, constipation and as gross as it is clogged toilets lol... But keep pushing thru, once youre off the deathadone take a 2 week vacation w some immodium, maybe kratom, lyrica and benzos to deal with the paw. I dont mean get on a plane and fly to the carribean but get some miles away to somewhere new. I wish i never got on this shite...it has its ups and downs, pos and negs, but in the long run the stuff is poison...i wish i hadnt of relapsed on iv heroin durin my bupe main regimine, i was doing well and figured i can take a break and slam some smack, it got out of control like a blind asian grandmother behind the wheel of a formula one car lol. I wish you luck my friend, it isnt easy. Ill be the first to tell you.
 
Wall of text:

I don't usually post here so I'm not sure if there's a writing or description etiquette on or off-the-books I should be abiding by, therefore I apologize in advance if I (for example) share TMI, but anyways, here it goes:

I've been on MMT since January 7th, 2010. In terms of reducing cravings and destructive behavior in relation to my opiate/opioid habit (e.g. using, pawning my stuff to score enough cash for a fix, calling in sick to work because I'm dope sick) it has been a lifesaver. In terms of it helping with my fibromyalgia pain when no other doctor would even consider prescribing me a shorter acting opiate for such a condition, again, it's been fantastic. As a result of me not using anymore (I've been clean for over a year - everything including booze and tobacco, except caffeine), I've been much much more productive, especially financially - and I'm really happy about not waking up every morning and the first thing on my mind constantly being, "when, where and how am I gonna get my fix today?" This is the good news, there's a fair amount of bad, which I can't find any answers for, which is why I'm here in desperation.

Aside from the common side effects of methadone (constipation, sweating, water retention, bloating, some daytime drowsiness/sedation), there's a couple which I cannot seem to control, no mater how hard I try, and it's driving me to the brink of trying to quit cold turkey (at 180mg daily - like that's gonna work):

1) weight gain - I know some people don't gain weight on methadone, but for those who do, has anyone had any success in shedding off that added weight while still on MMT? I've tried eating right, several different diets, starving myself, daily exercise, supplements... nothing's working. The best I've been able to do is stop myself from gaining anymore weight. Since, I've gained about 100 pounds after 26 months, that's not very satisfactory or motivating. Before being on MMT, I was never this big - not even close. And if I wanted to shed some extra pounds, it was really easy.

2) morning sickness - Every single fucking morning I've woken up since starting MMT (with the exception of the first 3 days or so), I feel sick with somewhat flu-like symptoms. I have a nasty headache, my muscles ache, my limbs are swollen, I feel weak, I'm sweating, I feel depressed and anxious at the same time and I also get abdominal cramps below the stomach (small intestinal area). I've been tested for rapid metabolization, which apparently is normal. I also had my testosterone levels measured, since methadone lowers them in men and was found to be well below the normal range - this was about a year ago. Since then, I've been receiving monthly injections of testosterone, which has brought my levels back to normal, and as a result - during the daytime - I have more energy, stamina, agility, endurance, resilience and increased libido. However, it has done nothing to stem the symptoms I consistently wake up with. I've also bought a new, expensive mattress as well as two $70 pillows. I've also tried sleeping in different positions, eating something before going to bed, not eating anything before going to bed, and going to bed early (10pm) as well as late (3am). Nothing I've tried has lessened this "morning sickness." One last thing I did do of recent was trying to research it using google as a starting point and going from there. Again, nothing.

I'm so sick and tired of being sick and tired and not being able to come up with some sort of remedy that I've begun to think of euthanasia or suicide. I know it's a one way ticket and I'm never coming back but after two years of this, I'm starting to not care anymore. I just want one goddamn night in which I can get a good night's rest and wake up feeling good and rested - and I'm trying to keep an optimistic attitude/outlook - but, again, after two years of this shit, I fear I will never get that :(

Does anyone else here on MMT feel this way (morning sickness)? Or has anyone formerly on MMT experienced the aforementioned? More importantly, anyone know if there is there anything I can do/try which may help with either the weight gain or - more importantly - the constant feel-like-shit-mornings? I'm willing to try anything at this point :?

P.S. - Thank you for taking time out of your lives to read all this mumbling and sorry it's so much <3

1.) I gained some weight from the Methadone but I needed to. When I first got on it I was 5'6" and 114 lbs. Skeletor, anyone?? Lol. My boyfriend gained 60+ lbs. from the Methadone but was able to lose it all and then some by first and most importantly ONLY drinking water and nothing else, eating healthy with 5 small meals per day, and working out/staying active. It is possible but it's not easy.

2.) I get morning sickness every morning AFTER I drink my Methadone. I literally have to sit down and stay still for a little while after taking my dose because if I move I feel like I'm going to throw it all back up. It sucks. Eating a couple crackers and drinking some water or Gatorade before taking my dose does help a little with the nausea though.

I hope things get better for you. :-/
 
I definitely know how you guys feel. When I was pregnant my dose got jacked up to 325 mg a day, and I STILL woke up sick. Fast forward to now, almost 3 years later, im still tapering but im on a split dose of 230mg a day total. Apparently im metabolizing it even faster now than when I was pregnant. Go figure?

Also, you should get your thyroid checked. Thyroid problems can cause some symptoms that are similar to withdrawal. Just a thought.

Best of luck I know how hard it is to get off this shit! Saved my life and im thankful to have it as an option, but it makes me cringe when I see kids with vicodin habits/some other weak opioid dependency gettin on the clinic. You can do this though! Youve come so far already! Be proud of yourself, this aint no easy feat.
 
Thanks for all your support everyone. I honestly feel better knowing that others are going or have been through the same shit while on MMT. Again, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
 
One thing that is probably totally irrelevant but just thought Id mention is that I used to get that nausea and all that pretty damn bad when I first started methadone and with the liquid.

Once I switched to pills I have never experienced that once.

I only gained like 20lbs when I got on it, which was really only that I was really underweight before not eating bc of the dope etc and the done got me onto a normal weight.

I feel like I must be pretty lucky bc I never experienced any of these side effects people talk about. no constipation or sweating or weight gain or whatever. Honestly I cant really think of any side effects i get from the done except maybe some heaviness in my chest sometimes but aint had that in a really long time. I wonder why some people get the side effects so bad and others dont. After hearing folks on here talkin so much about all of that Im realizing I aint in the norm with that. I been one to recomment done to a lot of people and never got why so many people got so much bad shit to say about it but I guess I been lucky enough to not have that happen to me and that prob. colored my opinion on it. Anyways..good luck...IMO, if you can smoke bud, thats gonna be the real lifesaver for you, esp with pain. (IME.)
 
I definitely get the sweating and being hot constantly and that's one of the worst side effects imo. I'll be in the grocery store pouring sweat and sweating my makeup off with people staring at me. Its really embarrassing.

I've been on liquid and pills but I'm the opposite, I was fine on the liquid but the pills make me nauseous. The clinic I'm at now only offers pills so I'm S.O.L. for now.

I definitely think methadone saved my life and I'm so thankful to have it but it does have a lot of negative side effects for some people. Consider yourself lucky, Khadijah!! Lol :)
 
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