OMFG I am losing my mind I don't know what to do...

Bojangles69

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Ok so YEH I have been doing better lately. Holding down a job, just taking my suboxone everyday, but apparently this isn't enough for my family.

This has been a persistent problem my whole life. I've always lacked ambition to a fair degree. And the reason why is simple, I hate my fucking life. Even when I'm doing good for 2 or 3 months, or even the 5 years I was sober, I HATED my life. I hate myself. I hate my parents, my brothers, it is nothing but obligation after obligation and question after question about why I'm such a fuck up and why even now that I have a job I can't pay more money for bills, or wake up before work and now find a second job to help pay bills.

This is ALL my family is concerned about is bills bills bill. Its the precise reason I hate life, I hate work, I hate myself and where I am. I hate fucking money. I hate what it does to people. I hate how millions upon million of americans have to suffer at jobs they hate, to pay for shit they barely get any enjoyment from. I just feel like I'm faking it on suboxone and something is not right.

My mom made a HUGE mistake ok let me explain this and I made the mistake with her.
But back when I got out of detox from coming off opiates, instead of going to rehab, or going somewhere where I can slowly piece my life back together, her plan was this. I'm going to help your brother buy a house, then you 2 can live right by the water, pay rent etc etc and everything will be fine and dandy.

I move out of my moms house after detox, in with my brother who I can't stand. He has the ambition to work 10 hours - 6 days a week. But that is ALL he does. He spends every single minute of every other week sleeping, or watching tv, or spending his money till he's broke. He's not going anywhere in life, and I sure as hell aint either.

The only difference is I have a college education, thats it. And because of this EVEN with a fucking job now working 6 days a week, I can't make enough money to appease anyone.

THIS IS NOT WHAT LIFE SHOULD FUCKING BE ABOUT.
Wealth is a disease like I've never seen before in my life. ALL that people fucking care about is having wealth, having money, and when most of them get it they just wind up wanting more.

I'm addicted to drugs and have no motivation.
But every other fucking person I know is addicted to money, and the only thing they really seem to have motivation for is making more money.

Is this what life is really about?
Would I think differently/be more happy if I had money? Or am I really just sick of the society I live in? I'd much rather life on an isolated island by myself, with just enough food and resources to sustain myself.

I'm losing my mind. Working at a supermarket between the ages of 16-19 drove me to using speed. Because everyone who works there is either angry, depressed, hates their life, complaining about money or this or that (unless they're minors sometimes). Now fast forward 10 years. All I have fucking done is get addicted to drugs again, go to detox, get clean, then get addicted again while now being on sub and finally holding a job down.

Sub helps me work and hold a job down like I said. But it doesn't give me motivation to really do anything more than that. Like find a BETTER job. Or stop smoking to save money. Or stop drinking coffee to save money. Or really get myself back to good health and get off these blood pressure meds.

I simply can not be asked one more time to do more, or do better, or give x person more money for x bill. I HATE THIS FUCKING LIFE.

I don't want to go to rehab, or maybe I do I don't know maybe anything would be better than this. But I literally want to get on a plane, and fly to a buddhist colony for a year or 2, stop the fucking drugs and smoking and making music into the wee hours of the morning just so I can wake up late and go to work and do really nothing else productive with my day.

This is just NOT my plan. I can live w/out luxuries as I've done it before, and believe it or not as bad as prison sucked at least I didn't have to listen to people persistently bitch about bills and how their lives suck cause I can't meet them half way in bills (I pay $600 a month my brother pays $800 and this has created problems for years). This is the last fucking time I am listening to my mother tell me I need to give him more money when I DON'T FUCKING HAVE IT.

The only possible way I can afford more is to stop my suboxone and cigarettes, but those are the 2 exact things that help me relieve stress in life. W/out cigs and sub I am more than likely to kill myself.

My question is this. Are buddhist colonies free? Where are they located or has anyone been to one before? I made a thread like this before but now I'm serious. I can't go live in a rehab as I did it before and yes it relieved tons of stress, but I never wanted to leave and I won't want to leave again. Rehab babies you in a supportive environment than tosses you into the cold real world, I don't see that has a recipe for success.
The buddhist idea is maybe in the hopes of discovering some meaning in life and a reason to live. Because if I don't find a real legitimate reason to like my life, and my crummy job, I don't feel like I'm going to make it. I've felt so stable lately but to some degree it all feels fake. Opiates have absolutely undeniably fucked up my ambition for a long time and I don't feel like I will ever rid my problems by being on them.

All I want to do is save for a plane ticket then GTFO of this country/state asap. I need to be in the mountains millions of miles away, where there are people who know how to survive life w/out any type of crutches or luxuries. People who know how to appreciate life not for their tv, or suboxone or car or cigs or coffee, but just for life as simple as it may be. Life w/out any of this superficial parasitic bullshit that humans have plagued the world with. Because apparently my crutches are precisely what keeps causing these issues to keep coming back.

I don't know what to do. I just got a job and I already want to quit it. I felt great for the first couple months but now I'm realizing where I am. The people are all fucking uneducated/angry 24 hours a day. I kid you not. Every single person I meet at work must hate their lives so much that in someway or another they always need to act like pretentios fucks just to feel better about themselves. I've never been like that and have never tolerated those types of people well. And of course even last time I worked at a supermarket it was the same fucking thing till I wound up in prison. Am I destined for failure? I have a college education but can't be successful because I have no motivation. And I have no motivation because sub makes me content with not really having a lot in life. Then at the same time I question if I get off the sub, why the fuck do I need a lot in life in the first place? Its always family, to appease them.

I feel stuck and don't know what to do. Maybe I can just get on a train and hop from place to place? Eat out of trashcans untill I learn how to appreciate life on lifes terms? I feel soo fucking stuck in this shitty life and its going to turn me into a very miserable angry person. You mods see it from me all the time. I'm always angry even when I'm trying to fake it like I'm not. I just really want to die I think. I don't know what else to do to get out of this situation. Its ongoing and never goes away... so if I go away it will have no choice but to stop.
 
I can understand your frustration with society. I'm improving, but in general I resent society and everything that it stands for. Money is put before us as the #1 priority and therefore we must study and get a good job to make enough to survive. Blah blah blah....

Being unemployed this year completely changed the way I look at my life and made me realize how I was miserable spending energy doing shit that I didn't want to do. So I'm never going back to that again. If you don't want to live in society, that's a reasonable decision. I also thought about going to join a monastery. Maybe going away for a bit will give you different perspective.

Seriously man, decide the life you want, then go make it. That's all there is to it. You have enough awareness in order to do so. But whatever story you end up creating for yourself isn't what is going to make you feel at peace or not.
 
I feel you, Bo. You've always been straight with me, now for payback ;)... dude, the dream of a Buddhist colony is merely a fantasy and I think you know this. Its that illusive fantasy of that 'thing' that is going to make everything alright. I have many of these fantasies myself and they always fuck me up because I know that I won't follow through in pursuing my nonexistent utopia but I keep it in my head as the final out from all my troubles. The thing is, when those troubles become overwhelming and I reach for that 'final out' only to realize what I already knew... that it isn't fucking real.

Maybe you don't have motivation because there is nothing to be truly passionate about? For me, I know that I need to be ready and have a strong foundation otherwise when I am grabbed by passion, it will be temporary because I'm just not ready yet.

Hang with the job but keep looking for better ones. Folks like us tend to quit our shitty, current livelihoods without having anything as a replacement. Keep looking while you are working and when you do find something more fulfilling (and you will), that final 'Fuck you!' will be soooo much more gratifying.

You know this but i'm gonna tell you anyway because when we're caught up in it, we don't see it. The first year of getting off the shit is so full of discomfort through change that we get completely twisted (emotionally, physically and mentally). This sounds exactly like one of those times.

Ride it out, don't fuck yourself up, minimize the exposure to the negative/stressful people in your life, recognize that sometimes we create a lot of our own negativity and stress (and completely blow it out of proportion) and do the next right thing for the next right reason.

You also aren't giving yourself very much credit (actually, you're kicking the shit out of yourself). Stop it! :X

You're an extremely intelligent dude. What are you going to do with it? Personally, I can see you working in a medical detox. You would make a real good EMT I bet but you'd need to find a place that is ok with having a record.

I think if you let anyone treat you how you are treating yourself, you would kick the shit out of them.
 
i agree man.. fuck this "life" thing blows.. oh well

feels like im barely hanging onto life as well..

Its like i cant live life with drugs and DEFINETLY cant live life without em..

fuck shit fuck shit fuck!!!
 
Totally feeling you man... I've feel this way everyday of my life and it infuriates me to no end when no one seems to understand where I'm coming from. I've even had the whole "Buddhist colony"/"Walden Pond" idea, just getting away from everything and everyone for a while. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to hope for that kind of thing as long as you begin taking steps towards that goal. Personally I'm saving up to buy a plane ticket/enough for food and I'm going somewhere where I can breathe easy, not sure how that's going to work out but it'll be better than what I'm doing now.

Hope it works out for you man, I lurk a fair bit and your advice has always been some of the best.
 
To me it sounds like you need some space from your family. I know tha sounds harsh but if they are burdining you with unneccesary stress early in your recovery then you need to look out for yourself and find an alternate living situation.
 
The way I see things us people that actually recognize how fucked up our world is are one step up from the others. Sure, others don't know any better and go through life happy go lucky with no worries in the world but from my experience those aren't the people I enjoy most as friends or people in general. We're strong and intelligent enough to actually see things for what they really are. I've learned that one must just accept the fact everything is fucked up on a certain level, but not on a level that says "our world is so fucked, why bother trying to fix anything, there's no point in trying to lead a good life, etc." You must accept things on a level that proudly says "I'm going to make the best of my life in this fucked up world." Knowing and accepting that it's fucked but still continuing to lead a good life, to love and to not take stuff for granted is a remarkable feeling. Or at least knowing you're on the path to that "level of existence" that is. I'm not preaching elitism as in the end we're all human, i'm just "preaching" having and leading a good life. Everyone has their different ways of coping with this fucked up world, whether they know why and what they're coping for or not. The key is to find things you enjoy doing that aren't deatructive. People don't realize how fucked it is to collect stamps for example, or worship a sports team or whatever. Things like that are even scarily similar to what we call psychosis, but so long as no harm is done and pleasure is earned then it doesn't matter. Get a break from your family like perviously recommended and try new things (that aren't harmful). About the seemingly dead end job, everyone has to start somewhere. It was mentioned above that lots of the negativity we experience in life is selfl-created, and I believe that is entirely, 100% true. Life is just a mindset. As cheesy and cliche as it sounds carpe diem man, seize the day. Good luck with things!

Oh and PS, keep up the music making. Music, I believe, is one of the worlds best coping mechanisms. It conveys raw emotion and can really touch others. Nothing puts me at ease more then putting on a good album and just drifting away into a musical world of pure bliss. Music is part of the essence of life :P
 
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Hi mate,

You seriously need to take away this blame from you're mom, and become more independant even in your thinking. I mean come on, getting out of detox, then relapsing is your moms fault?

The world is yours to choose the way you look at it.

Of course ppl need to make money etc, but its up to you what you focus on. For me I focus on Life - the quality of the relationships I have today, working on myself and changing old thinking patterns, growing as a person, being good to myself, taking risks, taking responsibility for my own life, exploring interests and creativity. You know the other day I was driving back from work to my flat and I suddenly realised I had a car a flat and a job! You know, these external things are great considering I had none of them a year ago, but not what matter to me these days.

It's you're choice my friend :)
 
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