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ok ok I know I'm an idiot..

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comEmEEtAlicE

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but everyone is an idiot at somepoint in their life....
can someone explain to me the diffrences between vicodin, vailum, n percocet I know they are all painkillers... but what are the diffrences here? and whats the best way to take them? Is snortin em safe? I like snortin stuff and I dont care about nose pain....
thanks in advance
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"Dance like you do when no one is watching..."
 
Valium isn't a painkiller
Orally or Snorting them are the best ways, unless the various painkiller has some other active chemicals that are dangerous in high doses...
 
you dont want to snort anything other than OXY'S,vicoden and percs have tylenol and other stuff in it so it will srew yer nose up!
valium is a BENZO not painkiller so it calms you down
 
You can rail the valiums without any pain, but it's a waste of your nose membranes hehe. It'll just end up in your stomach where it works it's magic. Like the other guy said, never rail anything with APAP or asprin or anything like that, you'll burn the hell out of your nose.
 
Vicodin = hydrocodone and acetaminophen (tylenol) - its a narcotic pain killer, you can't snort it due to the APAP ..
Valium = diazepam which is NOT A PAIN KILLLER but a benzodiazepine, used for anxiety and sleep .. you can snort these but it's not absorbed via yer nose so there is really no reason to rail them..
Percocet = oxycodone and acetaminophen (tylenol) .. just like with Vicodin, you can't snort these because of the APAP ...
So, of the above, take them by mouth .. as for dose - everyone is differn't, start with maybe two pills of each and go from there (as even if you had the highest dose of each pill, 2 of them wouldn't pose any risk - but 20mg Oxycodone for a narcotic virgin might have you sitting therre doing NOTHING for awhile..
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
valium can be considered a pain killer cause its a muscle relaxent. My dad has used valium to control pain for his back spasms. So, valium is not quite an opioid painkiller, but can be used to treat some pain
 
aight thanks guys.... yea the valium thing, I was confused by it.. someone had said it was a painkiller or something, I dunno I didnt know what it was so uuh now I know
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is it worth takin vicodin? my friend got her wisdom teeth out today n got a scrip for them. I dunno how many she'd give me tho.. she wants to try to sell any she has left.
as for the perc's i have four of those, they were her dads but she gave em to me. I want more but they are made for her dad n hes HUGE, hes tall n big.
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"Dance like you do when no one is watching..."
 
Try looking up the imprint code on RxList.com and you can find out what exactly is in that pill. Or you could just look at the prescription bottle if you or your friend have access to it.
 
comemeetalice--
You should look at www.erowid.org sometime, they have lots of useful info... it's a useful quick way to figure out simple drug questions.
It doesn't sound like you've taken any opioids before; you won't know how much you like them until you try. Many people, myself included, find them wonderful.
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Of what you have, the percocets are the best; the Vicodins are not as good, but still fun. I suggest you try some of the Percs, and if you like them, get more of your friend's Vics. I weigh 180lbs and would take 6 generic Percs; you should probably start at 2-3. I am guessing you are smaller; this will still be a party. You should take roughly the same amount or slightly fewer Vics for a good time, depending on how strong they are.
Valium's just a downer, a different experience... it will just sort of fuck you up in a "down" way. I personally don't enjoy it much. Some people combine benzos like Valium with opioids like Percs,Vics for increased effect; I wouldn't mess with this until you've truied both on their own.
Enjoy your first venture into the realm of opioids! Care,
Zorn
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The judge said son, what is your alibi?
If you were somewhere else, you won't have to die.
I spoke not a word, though it meant my life;
I had been in the arms of my best friend's wife.
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hey thanks for the info zorn, yea I usually useerowid, last nite I was feelin lazy, so I just figured I'd ask...
but nah I havent messed around with opioids really, I'm excited to try em out tho. I am about 120lbs so you think I should take like 2-3 of the percs?
it sucks... her mom took away the vic's cuz my friend got sick on them or something. So she took them back, we are kinda mad. But maybe they will give her something better or something I dunno.
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- Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source -
"Dance like you do when no one is watching..."
[This message has been edited by comEmEEtAlicE (edited 01 December 2001).]
 
Yup, maybe just two, if that does it for you, then you will have an equal second dose left over. Don't be afraid to take another Perc or two if you've finished coming up (1-2 hours) and aren't satisfied. You can take a fair bit of oxycodone before side effects become unpleasant.
If the doctor believes your friend still needs pain relief and can't tolerate Vicodin, he may move her up to oxycodone. It might help if she complains a lot about the pain.
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-Zorn
 
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woo I have 5 of them now lol ther was one left over from when me n her were messin around with em, so I got that one too.
So yea.. I'm excited. Again.. to be an idiot here, what are they like? what do you feel?
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- Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source -
"Dance like you do when no one is watching..."
 
what are they like? what do you feel?
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Happy, relaxed, and itchy are three words that come to mind.
Some people say they get a rush of energy, but it's never done that to me.
 
Take a couple and find out.
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A warm fuzzy feeling, relaxed and comfortable, and just plain euphoria. Sort of like the feeling you get huddling under a blanket on a cold day, or lying in bed after swimming in the heat. Higher doses of opioids like heroin (for me) are a lot like being in love, but you won't get that from a few Percs. My enjoyment of opioids increased a lot after I'd taken them a few times, so don't feel too bad if it's not fantastic the first time.
-Zorn
 
Itchiness is pretty prevalent with opiates, even weaker ones like codeine. I took 120mg of codeine once and got itchy all over. It releases histamines in your body, if you take anti-histamines that will help the itching.
 
Tip- If bendadryll isnt cutting it for ya, try to get some Allegra.. works like a charm for me
 
An easy to get script that ALL opioid users sgould keep - Vistaril (hydroxyzine Pamoate) .. it will; among othr things -
1) Itching? GONE!
2) Nausea? GONE!
3) Tollerance? GREATLY REDUCED! It will also signifigantly potentiate the effects of many opioids..
4) Can't slep in because you're in a "suspended realirty" - yhis will put you oit .. you will "float" out onto your own little cloud!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
hey zorn, aight you said that it took you a few trys to really feel much of anything.. I was wondering... Wellthat nite i took a few of the perc's then a few of the vic's a few hours later. The perc's made a tiny tiny buzz for like 15 minutes, I just felt an overall relaxation. I have also smoked opium a few times, this is an opiate right? So do you think with that in my backround it will help with the perc's I have now?
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- Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source -
"Dance like you do when no one is watching..."
 
Hydroxyzine, Phreex? Sounds good, but how are you going to get a doctor to prescribe you it? "I'm, uh, a little anxious, and itchy, and nauseous, and I don't like taking multiple medications...." On the other hand, it's unscheduled so isn't hard to find. I've used promethazine (Phenergan), a very similar antihistamine, along with opioids before, and it worked pretty well, expect for an unfortunate tendency to put me to sleep.
comemeetalice-
So you took 2+ Percs and 2+ Vics in an evening, and they did almost nothing? Damn, maybe you have a high tolerance to opioids or *codones. If you're sure they were good, I would take more, probably all 5 Percs. They should hit in 1-2 hours.
And you've smoked opium before? Opium is mainly morphine, but you may well have gotten heroin passed off at opium. Did that do anything? If it was good stuff, it shoulda got you pretty high.
-Zorn
 
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