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Opioids OG Octagonal Opana ER - MEGA THREAD - can't find YOUR thread? check here.

You should definitely make very small lines and wait 10 minutes or so between each snorting (one line in each nostril). Otherwise it is going to gel up and not work as well. If you snorted that 40mg in 1 or 2 lines then I would start with like 10mg-20mg snorted efficiently. As for the "not taken as prescribed", that is understandable. But it is a personal issue, I have no problem taking the medicine as it works best for ME, as opposed to what the doctor says. They are not in my body and do not know what works and what doesn't.

Anyway, I came in here for another reason. Any luck in IV'ing these yet? I mean, if you can snort them in small amounts, couldn't I dissolve these in small amounts or something?

I can tell you in my quest to figure out some way to take these I did find the method to IV them.

You use alcohol and then evaporate. After evaporation you then add water back into the spoon you evaporated all the alcohol out of and shoot it up.

I never would shoot up, but they have a working method let me try to find it again and I will post it to help you.
 
Ok I take ZERO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS IT IS NOT MY GUIDE I DID NOT WRITE IT NOR HAVE I EVER USED A NEEDLE IN MY LIFE

I CAME ACROSS IT BECAUSE I WAS VERY CONCERNED MY OPANAS WERE NOT WORKING ORALLY I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS GUIDE IS LEGIT OR NOT.


OPANA ER IV GUIDE said:
Opana Isopropyl Alcohol Extraction

Read through completely before attempting!
Materials:

2 - 1ml Insulin Syringes

1 - Bottle Isopropyl Alcohol (Important: Must be at least 90% abv.)

1 - Bottle H2O (Or any other clean water source)

2 - Large spoons

2 - Cotton Swabs

1 - Heat Source (Candle or Electric stovetop)

1- Opana




Note: The amount of solvent (alcohol/h2o)used for this prep were used for (1) 20mg pill. You may need to adjust more/less depending on how much OM you are planning on extracting, but prepping smaller amounts is preferable for maximum extraction. If you are using multiple pills, conduct multiple extractions. I have yet to shoot one of the 40's so i'm not sure how much bigger they are than the 20's but the amount of solvent needed shouldn't too much more.

The Process:

1. Scrape coating off of the pill. Do not wet it, you do not want saliva/water anywhere near the pill at this point.

2. Crush pill finely on a sheet of paper.

3. Transfer 4-5ml of Alcohol from the bottle to one of your spoons.

4. Add opana powder to spoon.

5. Stir vigorously for a few minutes, I used an orange needle cap, but anything small and hard will do. Stir as long as you can stand to do it. At least a few minutes, there will be a noticeable amount of particulate collected at the bottom of the spoon, but stir the alc until it gets cloudy and stops getting any more opaque.

6. Wet your cotton filter in the alcohol from the bottle, stick it on the tip of your syringe, and begin to draw up the solution, transferring this solution to the other spoon. You will have to do this multiple times, but the iso will begin to evaporate almost immediate so it will not be as much as you originally put in the spoon.

7. Once the alcohol solution is transferred, repeat the process again with another mL or so of alcohol to extract more OM from the solute. Once you have removed all the alcohol you should have a noticeably reduced pile of grainy sludge left over.

8. Take your alcohol solution and hold it over your heat source. This step should not be rushed. Take your damn time, you DO NOT want the alcohol to boil, and if you get it too hot you can risk it igniting. An electric stove or candle is preferred to a lighter because you will be heating this for a while. Hold the spoon at least a couple inches over the heat, moving it away if you notice if bubbles/vapors are starting to form. Alcohol boils at around the same temperature that opiates degrade (around 80-90C) so the lower the temp and the slower you do this the better.

9. This step should take at least 5-10 minutes. As the alcohol evaporates, you will notice that a film is starting to form on the spoon as it recedes. This film contains your oxymorphone. Complete the evaporation. Be careful not to let the film bubble/burn when the alcohol is almost gone, but also make sure that the alcohol is all evaporated, as you do not want to put this shit into your veins.

10. Have your second syringe filled all the way with your water in preparation of this step. Once you feel comfortable that the alcohol is gone, unload the water from your rig into the spoon. You may have to add a small amount of additional water, 20-30units, as the film seems to absorb a small amount, and to account for the slight evaporation that occurs with the heating in the next step.

11. Scrape the film off the sides of the spoon, and get it floating and immersed in the water.

12. Stir vigorously, you need to get the OM from the film into the solution. Stir for as long as you can, while moving the spoon on and off your heat source occasionally. Remember to not let it boil, but it is okay to get it hot as it will help the film dissolve. Continue with the step as long as you have the patience for. The film will never completely dissolve, but will break down into continually smaller pieces.

13. Take a fresh cotton, wet it with h2o, and stick it on the end of your second needle. Draw the solution into your rig.

14. This is your final product. Find a nice juicy vein and bang away.

Notes:

Either of the two extraction steps can be repeated to increase your yield or to perform a second wash.
The amount of alcohol I have been using has been largely trial and error, but the more you use the better the results seem to be.
The slower you heat the alcohol, the better your final product will be. A quick extraction yields a sticky, gloopy "film" that is very hard to break down, but a slower burn off of the alcohol allows the film to develop much more finely and seemingly easier to dissolve. I tested evaporating the alcohol quickly (5-10min) versus slowly (30-40min). The shot from the slow evap. was almost twice as strong as the shot from the quick one. There was a lot of left over particulate after drawing up the solution for the quick burn off, while there was barely anything left in the spoon after the slow one. The more patience you have the better. I ended up putting my stove on low, and propping the spoon over it on a text book, with another over the handle to hold it in place so i didn't have to stand there for forty minutes. If you are going to do this, just make sure to check on it periodically and adjust the height and temp if it seems to be going to fast or unreasonably slow.
Some work needs to be done with the step where you are mixing the film with water. Light heating seems to help break it down, but i feel like there is a better technique or an additional solvent that can be squirted into the solution at this point to aid in the break down of the film. However, extra steps also mean extra time, the potential for more fuck ups and loss. However, if you got a bunch to mess around with then go nuts and report on it!
The best method of dealing with the film seems to be creating a finer, weaker film through a very slow evaporation of the alcohol. You are shooting for a very thin residue, not a thick, milky skin. The film should look like very thin rings deposited around the edge of your spoon. It should look like rings of residue until you scrape it off the sides, when it's appearance will become more film-like in the water. Do not get discouraged when your alcohol is almost gone and this is all you see left on the spoon, you've done well! A very thin residue means your extraction was good and slow, and your oxymorph will break down extremely well in the water.
Conclusion:

This is a lengthy, somewhat time consuming procedure, but if executed with patience it yields a nice strong final product. Through some trial and error and experience it become a lot easier and you really get a feel for the process. Just don't rush it. The first thought that went through my head when i saw the film for the first time was, "wtf is this shit, there is no way this worked," but once i got that shot in me and felt that rush course through my veins it was all worth it.

Good luck and enjoy!
 
Can an expert explain how to use that guide to extract pure oxymorphone for snorting please?

Would you scrape it off and snort it - is that possible?

Or what would happen if you drew it into a syringe but squirted the water under your tongue?
 
Can an expert explain how to use that guide to extract pure oxymorphone for snorting please?

Would you scrape it off and snort it - is that possible?

Or what would happen if you drew it into a syringe but squirted the water under your tongue?

I wouldnt waste your time worrying about snorting "pure" oxymorphone....just snort the pills the way they come.....trying to purify it will lose some of the drug in the process....and is probably very complicated and not worth it.

Also...shooting liquid oxymorphone under your tounge is pretty much the same as swallowing liquid oxymorphone....or like snorting it......there all ABOUT the same.

The only way to truly get a better high is to IV it. otherwise just snort it or swallow....its all around the same......for most people.
 
I wouldnt waste your time worrying about snorting "pure" oxymorphone....just snort the pills the way they come.....trying to purify it will lose some of the drug in the process....and is probably very complicated and not worth it.

Also...shooting liquid oxymorphone under your tounge is pretty much the same as swallowing liquid oxymorphone....or like snorting it......there all ABOUT the same.

The only way to truly get a better high is to IV it. otherwise just snort it or swallow....its all around the same......for most people.

I found something on another forum that is very scary:

the anti-abuse system Opana ER uses, TimerX, will gel up but can still be effective while used intranasally. However, the anti-abuse mechanism is made up of Silica Microcrystalline cellulose, and I'm not sure exactly for this, but inhaling silicates is generally pretty horrible

Silicified microcrystalline cellulose is not the same as microcrystalline cellulose, and is only present in the TimerX anti-abuse mechanism that only Opana uses AFAIK. Inhaling silicone can cause Silicosis and is not something I'd want to fuck with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicosis


I may be dne with these as inhaling it made me want to cough too - I am not one to sacrifice my life just for a high.
 
wait, wait. So snorting OpanaER can lead to Silicosis? That shit is no fun, my dad almost had it.

Man, what the fuck!!!
 
Yea...for the most part....its a good idea to take drugs the way they were meant to be taken.
 
WOW -

a nurse in another forum:

nurse said:
I also know from my classroom studies that insufflating opana=BAD NEWS. The silica can cut up your alveoli in the same way the fiberglass from cigs do causing a serious COPD after long term use.

Guys if you are snorting OPANA ER its not a good idea - I wish I had never done it now, it is like snorting fiberglass.

Hopefull if I only snorted one pill in my life I will be okay.
 
Yea, but im sure if you only snort it rarely it wont have the ability to cause any serious damage, just like if you only smoke 1 cigg every week or two.
 
^^If you want to snort pure OM, then the last step added would be to evap the water solution. There will be some but very minimal original filler this way.
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My perception was that snorting Opana is so benign. It just seems so much smoother than any other pill, almost never burns at all.

Does anyone know if the silicates are still harmful if you avoid getting in into your lungs?
 
glade you figured it out, paingame. i had never tried opana oral, but i knew from experience that intranasal makes it a damn powerful drug. but making a habit of snorting anything is bad news. being an ocasional opiate user, i am not concerned about the effects of snorting an opana or two a year. and while im sure it is bad for you, snorting it is not like snorting fiberglass; dont believe all the shit you read. if it gets into your capillaries, that is bad news, but i doubt anything in opana is really that fine, and even it is, one pill won't kill yea.


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The only way to truly get a better high is to IV it. otherwise just snort it or swallow....its all around the same......for most people.
falso, intransal's bioavailability is about 4x higher than oral.
 
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I think the trick for me might be to do the IV preparation but evap the water and snort the remaining oxym which will have all the shit out of it.
 
VICTORY!!

I need some advice since I have never snorted anything before:

1) Is it safe for my lungs and nose to snort 90 40mg OPANA every month?


This rush reminds me of speed. Does anyone else feel that way? I think I am going to have to run to bathroom....

it might be questionable to snort the 40mg Time-release one's. Try to get more IR from your doc. say you need them immediately for pain that is consistent but breaks through, comes on immeditely and stays for like 8 hours. The IR's have much less filler and no silicates, and they can be mainlined (not that I do that sort of thing)

For the ER's I found that doing an opiod seperation works best. you have so many mg's, just get enough to pills to make like 1 or 1/2 gram of oxymorphone (12 of the 40's) and do an A/B extraction on them after letting them sit in cool water in the fridge for about a day with the sulfuric acid in with them. this will break down the timerx and you can proceed to add more sulfuric until it gets to like ph 9, then precipitate out with baking soda or soda ash, filter, and bam, you are left with mostly pure powder, some dye, and no silicates.

much better for you.
 
Please check the thread in the advanced drug forum there has been some research into snorting OPANA ER - and it is deadly if done frequently.

Many people, some members of this board may have already breathed in too much silica and are going to become extremely ill in about 10 years and most likely die.

This is also going into other pills and we must raise awareness that they are essentially putting fine "fiberglass" or silicate particles into their lungs. Have you seen the ads on TV about "Mesothelioma" from all the dust they were exposed to? You are intentionally breathing that directly into your lungs if you snort the extended release OPANA ER. The INSTANT RELEASE does not have this ingredient and should be safe - although I am not a doctor so use your own judgement - I just started researching this and found out something that is possibly going to become a BIG deal for some people in about 10 years. It is not a joke, if you have inhaled enough silicates YOU WILL get Silicosis, it just takes time to develop in your body.

Please check the thread in advanced discussion =

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=8735182&posted=1#post8735182

Help raise awareness - this is a HORRIBLE disease and people need to know that snorting as few as 200 pills in a year can guarantee you will develop this!!! What is so scary is the disease takes about 10 years to occur after the first inhalation, so in about ten years there will be a media firestorm as college kids in their 30s (around 2020) all start dying of suffocation - being strangled by nothing at all - people turn blue as their blood cannot oxygenate.

Literally no one knows about this and word should be spread so people do not get this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicosis

This is being added now into more pills and I am going to compile a list so people know and can at least make an informed decision.

Some may take the risk, others will want to know which pills this is being added to now and not want to play russian roulette with their lungs and ability to breathe.
 
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For some reason I cannot PM muvolution. Is the PM system broken?

Muv - would be willing to put that in a step by step precise guide (please! <3)

I would be very upset if I wasted 12 pills because I did not get every step exactly. I am sure you understand.
 
you can't PM me because we are both greenlighters. I'm kinda wary about posting a step-by-step extraction process as this may violate the terms of service of Bluelight. Anyone - maybe my mentor??? want to weigh in on if I can or can't?
 
Oh, and If you can manage not to gag, you can always put a cotton ball in your throat, then snort the pills, then remove cotton ball, ensuring that all the particulate matter stops in your sinuses where it will be either expelled as mucous or drip into your tummy.
 
I'm kinda wary about posting a step-by-step extraction process as this may violate the terms of service of Bluelight. Anyone - maybe my mentor??? want to weigh in on if I can or can't?
you can. you cannot post guides for synthesis. extraction processes from pills are fine. coming to a message board considerate enough to concern yourself with the rules--wow, welcome.
 
you can. you cannot post guides for synthesis. extraction processes from pills are fine. coming to a message board considerate enough to concern yourself with the rules--wow, welcome.

Good to hear.

Muv if you don't mind or if you can figure out how to PM me. I am really worried about wasting 12 40mg stop signs. That is a significant amount.
 
I am still a "greenlighter" so I can't PM, but since it's ok to post on the forums, here goes.

things you need-
-sulfuric acid. It's available as muriatic acid at your local Ace Hardware. just ask for Muriatic acid cuz you need to clean some lime scum off brick steps or something.
-soda ash or baking soda. I would recommend you find some soda ash. you can find this at glass-blowing studios.
-good pyrex wares and a heat plate
-glass stirrer rods
-either a centrifuge or micron filters. I use cotton though and it's usually fine.
-a glass dropper, like an eye dropper
-pH strips (ideally) this can be eye-balled
(if you spill any sulfuric acid on yourself just throw some baking soda on it immediately so you don't get a chemical burn.

crush all your pills. you may want to start with like 200mg just to check, like 6 pills or something.
put them in a pyrex beaker (a smaller beaker will be better)
add sulfuric acid until they are wet, then add about 100% more - this should make for a 50% pill matter/ 50% sulfuric acid and water mix.
let sit in the fridge for a while, stir occasionally.-the acid will break down the ER mechanism
bring out of the fridge and filter or centrifuge. Ideally you would centrifuge it, but a filter should be fine.
put all the stuff you filtered back into a similar solution to make sure you get it all out.
continue with the process- take the filtered liquid (which should only have the pill dye and oxymorph in it) and filter again.
put in a pH strip to check that the pH is around 9 as it should be.
put the solution into the container you want to dry it out in - ideally a very shallow and wide pyrex which will fit a razor blade in it
start adding soda ash or baking soda- you'll get a reaction like you did in grade school when you made "volcanoes" out of vinegar and baking soda
every time you add a dash of baking soda, stir with a stirrer rod to make sure it all dissolves. add until you are no longer getting much of a reaction.
from here forward go slowly, adding tiny amounts and stirring between each until there is NO reaction. you should see a precipitate forming at the bottom of the pyrex. add a dash more of baking soda to be safe (I'd rather snort salt than sulfuric acid)
pull off the remaining fluid and add it to the second wash beaker that you had setting from earlier (you'll repeat this process on that one to get everything out of it)

ok, so all the precipitate is either oxymorphone or salt. you can now put this on a hot plate a like 150 degrees F to evap the remaining water.
If you want you can just blow it like this, or shoot it up (salt is fine for your veins, well as fine as anything - i don't use points if you couldn't tell)

or if you can get your hands on some ether, you can seperate the salt out for pure oxymorphone, but this is kinda extraneous and all the other ingredients are readily accessible, and fairly safe whereas ether is dangerous and controlled.

good luck. if it works well, make like a whole G of that shit (like 26 pills) and cut it like 50% with lactose so you have like 2 grams of 50% pure oxymorphone with a bit of salt mixed in.

please don't kill yourself doing this.
good luck.
 
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