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official NHL 06-07 thread! (free agent signings updated on page 11)

*sigh*

my oilers are not having the season i would have hope after going to game 7 of the finals last year...

we need another good d-man. kevin lowe needs to work some more magic...
 
Lane said:
why is it, no matter where you go, you mention the word "hockey," and some douchebag has to belt out "Detroit" and/or "The Red Wings?"

Fuck "Detroit."
Fuck "The Red Wings."

there isn't an NHL franchise I passionately hate more than the "Detroit Red Wings."

i only cheer for the Stars and the Lightning.

Hey fuck you buddy, original six ring a bell? If not no wonder you cheer on expansion teams
 
Go wings!

We are an original 6 team, and we consistently conduct ourselves with class. The only reason to hate the Wings is because you are envious or you hate success.
 
who gives a crap if they were an original six...it just made it easier for them to win cups back in the day.

and any team with chelios gets a big ass boo from me. guy is a goon and a scum bag...
 
^ so i was going through my collection of recorded games and i forgot that i have last years stanley cup championship games. my condolences on that one bro. i was hoping edmonton would pull that one off cause for some reason, i just dont like carolina. i dont know why not, but i just dont.

but nothing can compare to my hatred for nashville. NOTHING.
 
that was a soul crusher to be sure...the entire city was seriously sad for like a week. people just moping around, no word of a lie.

but the ride was incredible. our building broke crowd noise levels...the fans were absolutely nuts. even louder than in the gretsky/messier hay-day, and that's saying something. i got to go to several of the games in each series, including game 6 of the finals...i'll remember them the rest of my life.

sadly...a repeat trip to the final doesn't seem to be in the cards this year

*ahem* fuckprognerwithabigstick
 
I'm gonna use this a way to introduce myself...

I live in the Tampa Bay area and am a huge Lightning Fan. I grew up on Long Island during the Dynasty, so I still have a spot in my heart for the Isles.

Bolts are playing well and that line of Marty, Vinny and Vaclav are lookin' pretty good. Getting rid of Affy was a long time coming, but I think it sends a message to the rest of the non-producers.

Anyway, glad to see this thread here.

I'll keep an eye on it.
 
this thread died off in as hurry.

so here's something to kick-start it.

Forsberg may head to Motor City

Monday, Jan 29, 2007 11:45 am EST



Peter Forsberg in a Detroit Red Wings sweater would look odd, all right. To Colorado Avalanche fans, it would be downright ugly, probably unbearable.

But there are some in NHL insider circles who believe it might just happen.

"I think Detroit is the front-runner to get Forsberg," said NBC and TSN of Canada hockey analyst Pierre McGuire. "I think (Detroit general manager) Kenny Holland is going to offer a player and a first-round pick for him."

Source: Denver Post

this is crazy. after all the crazy shit that went down between Detroit and Colorado. it has been 10 years though. and Forsberg could make my Wings a contender for the cup again.
 
Hmmm...I don't know how much cap space the Wings have. I have been hearing he may go to the Canadiens or the Senators...this is the first I have heard about the Wings.
 
I don't watch the Flyers that much, but every time I do, it seems that Forsberg is taking Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalties. I don't think he's cut out to be a captain. Put him on a team like the Wings with some leadership and his broke-ass (he's NEVER 100% anymore) isn't expected to carry them I think he'd thrive.

Then he can pull a Dougie Weight and just re-sign in Philly next summer.
 
How is it the Nashville Predators are first in the NHL and can't sell out their home games? The sit 23rd out of 30 teams in attendance in the league. Thinking hockey isn't taking hold in Nashville...move the team.
 
^^ yeah Nashville doesnt need a hockey team. And neither does Phoenix or Atlanta. The league needs to get rid of 2 of those 3 teams and bring it back to 28.

I was born and raised a Capitals fan so they're my team, but I spent my high school years in Detroit, so the Wings are a close second.

Going to a Capitals game is a painful expierence though.... You have to deal with 13,000 morons screaming "Shoot it!" every single fucking time the Caps even touch the puck in the offensive zone. And when I get loud and all into the game, all the assholes sitting around me just stare like "wtf is that guys problem?"

Goddamn it would be awesome to go a sold out Caps game with people who actually follow the NHL filling the seats, but thats probably never going to happen :(
 
youarewhatyouis said:
Goddamn it would be awesome to go a sold out Caps game with people who actually follow the NHL filling the seats, but thats probably never going to happen :(

I think it'll happen soon with your boys Ovechkin and Semin. I think the league is due a resurgence w/Ovechkin & Crosby selling a lot of tickets (and other assorted trinkets...)

I'm in Tampa Bay - and the games used to just be 14000 idiots with the visitor's jersey on. It ain't like that anymore - except when the Leafs come to play in the dead of Winter. I think the Caps are gonna be a good team in a good market soon.

The Preds used to sell out all the time their first couple of years, but after a couple of seasons of not-quite-making it, I think the novelty wore off. I think they'll sell a lot of playoff tickets though. The Hurricanes (eventually) did last year.
 
Goddamn it would be awesome to go a sold out Caps game with people who actually follow the NHL filling the seats, but thats probably never going to happen
^^true words my friend

to: fringe sports

re: work stoppage

from: reality

dont do it
 
yeah the strike definitely pissed alot of people off. the ticket prices here need to come down as well. If the place is not even close to full capacity, then why the hell are the cheapest tickets $25? I guess I shouldnt complain though, because $63 for two tickets doesnt seem that bad in comparison to red wings tickets, or one of the canadian teams.

Ovechkin is definitely a godsend, and he's a perfect example of why I admire the NHL players alot more than the NFL or NBA guys that sign those crazy 50 million dollar contracts. I saw this interview with Danius Zubrus on TV last year, and he said when Ovechkin first came to the USA to meet with him and the team, that he actually asked where the nearest sporting goods store was so he could buy a cage for his helmet! And the rest of the team was like "uhhh they provide those for us Alex." lol
 
Pharcyde said:
Hey fuck you buddy, original six ring a bell? If not no wonder you cheer on expansion teams

huntmich said:
We are an original 6 team, and we consistently conduct ourselves with class. The only reason to hate the Wings is because you are envious or you hate success.


Original Six, huh?
ok. so, would you two like a couple medals or chests to pin em on?
 
^^ yeah Nashville doesnt need a hockey team. And neither does Phoenix or Atlanta. The league needs to get rid of 2 of those 3 teams and bring it back to 28.

There is talk up here in Canada that the NHL is actually looking to expand to 32 teams to make everything even on both sides with two 16 team conferences. I don't see it happening though. Not enough markets down in the US that give a shit about hockey and although with the new CBA Winnipeg could probably support a team, the NHL won't come back to Canada
 
Unhappy anniversary
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
January 29, 2007

Dan Wetzel
Yahoo! Sports

Everyone has a favorite conspiracy theory about the NBA. Some like the idea that David Stern fixed the 1984 draft lottery. Others favor his supposed secret suspension of a star player for gambling problems.

Mine dates back to the early 1990s, when the NHL was white hot with fans and never better on the ice. Wayne Gretzky was in Los Angeles. Mark Messier was with the New York Rangers, who were on the verge of ending their Stanley Cup drought. Mario Lemieux, Steve Yzerman, Ray Bourque, Patrick Roy and many others were hitting their prime.

Anyone who doesn't think hockey can work in America is forgetting this era. All of a sudden, hockey was challenging, if not beating, the NBA in a number of major U.S. markets – including New York. It's almost impossible to imagine now, but it happened.

As the conspiracy theory goes, Stern sensed the potential trouble in 1993 while the NHL was in search of a new commissioner. So he looked around his own office for someone so incompetent that if they got the job, the NHL would be marginalized by their mismanagement and never again be a threat to the NBA.

Naturally, Stern recommended one of his assistants, Gary Bettman, for the job.

True story or not, it worked.

Bettman is set to begin his 15th year as commissioner Thursday, and like most hockey fans I feel the need to mark the occasion by popping a bottle of champagne, chugging the entire thing in an effort to drown my misery and then smashing the empty bottle over my temple to black out the memories.

There has never been a commissioner of a major North American sports league this inept, yet the league's board of governors keeps employing him, keeps giving him another chance to sink this once-proud, once-vibrant league to new depths.

Bettman is on a 14-year run of bad ideas. His latest was a classic, moving the league's all-star game, which featured attention-grabbing young megastars, to midweek on the Versus Network – as opposed to NBC on a weekend. He claimed it would allow Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin to own the sports landscape, unlike some crowded weekend.

The result was a catastrophic 0.7 rating. That's a meager 474,298 households in the States that bothered to watch, down 76 percent from the last all-star game.

It is par for a season which has seen TV numbers plummet in both the U.S. and Canada (down 20 percent by some reports), attendance drop and media coverage dwindle.

Hockey fans would laugh if we weren't crying. We'd figure it would be the last straw that would lead to his dismissal, but at this stage, we know he's never going away. For those of us who grew up loving and living this sport and this league, all of us who cared about the NHL long before Bettman's slow, steady suicidal stewardship of it, it's just the latest in a recurring nightmare.

The Bettman era has been an unmitigated disaster for the league in virtually every possible way, one outrageously terrible initiative after another.

I could write a book about Bettman's insulting and imbecilic moves through the years (Chapter 9: "The Glowing Puck") but the main problem has always been the same. He has shown no respect for the game, for its history, for its fans, for its unique qualities.

Bettman might consider himself an astute sports marketer, but in practice he is arguably the worst of all time. He has never figured out how to change his marketing plans to fit the product of hockey. Instead, he changed the product to fit his marketing plans.

The league is now overexpanded and overpriced, misplaced and misdirected. It is less exciting, less interesting, less traditional and more difficult to follow for the non-obsessive fan.

Yes, hockey fans remain. I'm one of them. But even we can't believe what has happened here. It is bad enough a desperate, ill-advised grab of supposed "new, emerging markets" have come at the expense of the old fan base. It's dispiriting that the league chased the fickle corporate dollar and priced out families. But what's worse is it just keeps going and going, Bettman on the job for life.

Under Bettman's watch, the NHL's improvements are few. Certainly new technologies such as the "Center Ice" package and the Internet have been great. And there are far more highly skilled players than in 1993, thanks to the influx of talent from Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.

Of course, Bettman had nothing to do with these things occurring.

The elimination of the red line and the crackdown on obstruction are positives. Some will argue that shootouts to decide regular-season games and the severe curbing of fighting are positives, but that's a matter of personal preference.

While some hail the salary cap that allows across-the-board competitiveness, I think it suppresses the kind of elite play that makes the game great. Hockey is the ultimate team pursuit – the need for timing and teamwork is paramount. The individual star is utterly worthless without strong teammates.

The great player needs other great players to be great. In the mid-1980s, Gretzky needed Messier, Paul Coffey, Glenn Anderson, Jari Kurri and others to maximize his abilities and thrill fans. A salary cap prevents talent from flocking together like that, so we get economic viability of the Atlanta Thrashers in exchange for breathtaking teams such as the Edmonton Oilers of 1980s or the Detroit Red Wings of the late 1990s.

The negatives are too numerous to list, but consider the league's current uneven schedule which serves no purpose other than cutting travel costs for a few cheapskate owners. Teams play eight games per season against division foes, or 32 a year against just four teams.

Bettman claimed it would spawn "new" rivalries. Of course, old rivalries such as Detroit-Toronto – two hockey-mad towns separated by a single highway that actually has an exit for Wayne Gretzky Blvd. – no longer play a home-and-home series each season. It's like killing Red Sox-Yankees so Blue Jays-Diamondbacks might catch on.

And, since fighting has been curbed, the "new" rivalries haven't really taken because a hockey rivalry without fighting is like non-alcoholic beer.

Plus, not everyone gets to see young superstars such as Pittsburgh's Crosby or Washington's Ovechkin.

Last week, 22 franchises tried to bring the old schedule back, but eight blocked the move in a vote while Bettman, predictably, did little lobbying on behalf of the majority opinion.

This is Bettman's NHL. Fourteen years, four bankruptcies, three franchise moves, two lockouts, one lost season and no effective leadership. The business is so sick that the Pittsburgh Penguins, despite a loyal fan base and the most promising talent since Gretzky, are 50-50 to move to that noted hockey hotbed of Kansas City.

Bettman has his apologists who point out that he beat former NHLPA head Bob Goodenow during the last lockout and got a salary cap installed.

Which is true, except it cost the NHL an entire season and an incalculable number of fans. And the proposed cap for next season is already creeping close to the average pre-lockout team salary. Wasn't the new deal only needed because the old deal was so bad? And who negotiated that one for the NHL in 1994? Oh yes, Gary Bettman, who locked the players out and killed all momentum from the Rangers' Stanley Cup championship to get that ill-fated deal done.

Lord knows what is next. Lord knows how he can make it worse. Lord knows what prior screwups he'll try to solve now with fresh screwups.

You'd think a 0.7 was rock bottom, but then again, this is someone who surveyed the burning wreckage of the NHL and decided that what would really turn things around this time were sleek new uniforms from Reebok, which were trotted out last week.

"This is an evolution of our uniform," Bettman proudly crowed.

Of course, already fans who are carrying even a few extra pounds report that they look ridiculous in the new form fitting jerseys, which has led to predictions of plummeting apparel sales and jokes about how Bettman hatched the idea after watching George Costanza comically change the New York Yankees' uniforms to cotton.

"This is a Seinfeld episode, isn't it?" wrote one fan on the San Jose Mercury News' hockey blog.

Yes, David Stern's bizarro world, now entering its 15th year and counting.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=dw-bettman012907&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I knew it was the NBA's fault...
 
Teams play eight games per season against division foes, or 32 a year against just four teams.

yeah this is a bigger travesty than the glowing puck IMO. the only games all the hockey fans in DC care about are the old Patrick division rivalries, the Pens, the Rangers and the Flyers. But no, I have to see them play the Atlanta Thrashers 8 times a year.....

they need to bring teams back to Canada to breath some life back into the league, but I guess the almighty $ gets in the way of that one.....
 
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