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i hate when you do too much and you start to feel those tingles in your head. and then you know you did too much. i usually just pass out and wake up like 15 minutes later. i'm glad it's not more serious then that. i can't do more then 3 bags or i'll pass out.
 
Here in northwestern PA we had tar that came from the mexicans in Columbus, OH for a good 3 years and thats all that I bought. Then the connect went to jail so I had to switch to powder. I noticed that tar addicts (me and my friends) didn't get off on the powder like we did on tar. I'd say its like switching from methadone (super heavy sedated high) to oxy (super clean lucid high). I actually prefer the tar to the powder because the consistency of the tar is MUCH better than fucking with Pittsburgh bags (similar to Jersey). When I got a balloon I knew what I was buying (not shit... seems like quarter of the time I go to Pittsburgh I end up copping total shit.) I mean theres raw powder around now and I'd still go with tar cause it lasts longer and its a heavier high. I've spent more time head back, eyes closed, mouth wide open on tar then I have on powder.

You said you only had 1 connect for the tar in PA for 3 years before he went to jail. Must have been a very limited type thing because tar in PA over there is rare to begin with. You would have to know people to get it and even then it's not very big. Not big at all. So you had a good connect. Comparing that connect to something else. Pittsburgh gets some of it's dope straight from Jersey. But it also means it's packaged the same, just like Philly. Shit from Pittsburgh might be stepped on than it's Jersey counterpart bags. Same organization, so they might use the same stamps or what have you but make up the profits (they have to move it through PA) and even though it's packaged the same way, the prices aren't. The quality doesn't have to be either. But that doesn't go to say, some organizations package it in Newark and ship it to Pittsburgh and you got some fire dope over there then if they are legit with it.

i hate when you do too much and you start to feel those tingles in your head. and then you know you did too much. i usually just pass out and wake up like 15 minutes later. i'm glad it's not more serious then that. i can't do more then 3 bags or i'll pass out.

I know what you mean and I get scared I'm about to OD, but you know you got a damn fine rush when that happens. Your head and limbs tingle and go really warm. That's a borderline OD rush right there. Haha. I love it.
 
i hate being back in newark now. i'l all the way by where ferry ends. so far from downtown newark. before i lived close to downtown newark so i just would walk around and get stuff. and that was before the arena was built too. i wonder how it is now. i waited for the bus at this place that used to be busy but i didn't see much action going on. i bet they moved further down. but it's just so cold that i don't even dare try and look for it. and if i were to look for it, i know it would have to be around 5-6pm.
 
i just moved to houston tx from N.Y. whats the scene like around here as far as quality and difficulty finding? Whats most prevelant around here, tar or power? is it mostly bags or foil around here? This place is different from n.y.,lol
 
I know what you mean and I get scared I'm about to OD, but you know you got a damn fine rush when that happens. Your head and limbs tingle and go really warm. That's a borderline OD rush right there. Haha. I love it.

Yo, cocksucker u said u cant do more than 3...KEEP IT THAT WAY.....By the time I quit I would do like 8-10 bags in a shot sometimes...And then once i only did 6 and OD'd bad, got took to the ER and all that, so be careful but try and keep ur tolerance low becuz its like, if u do 3 at most and one time get real good dope and do 3, and u only needed one or 2, then its not as risky, as if u normally do 8 and so u shoot 8, but the dope was real super good, u feel me? Becuz ur doing MORe of that super good dope when ur tolerance gets up there so it gets easier to OD in that way...just sayin....

Anyways, LOL altek--I got this clown in the dope stamps thread over in DC say some shit like "Haha u feel that tapping on ur chin thats my nutz in ur mouth cuz u dont know shit u dumb guttter whore, u have a pathetic attitude and if you ever was in any hood like that you woulda got killed already so i know you aint nothing but a fake ass busta" and shit like that LOL...

U know why he said it?

Becuz, he posted about his dope stamps that was called *drumroll please*

LIZARD

FIRE ANT

DRAGON

TRIBAL FLUTE

aaannnd.... the grand finale (i kno, tribal flute was a good one but this is better...

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GRASS!!



He claimed that a shipment of 25 bricks was made, and he listed like 5 other nature related totally ridiculous names for stamps.

And he said that of these 10 or so names, that the 25-brick shipment was made up evenly of those names. That the distributor, when he packaged the bricks, made like 2 or 3 bricks of each stamp, then switched to a different stamp. And that every single one of these stamps was the same dope.

And hes from pittsburgh.

And he was tryin to correct ppl from JERSEY in the thread, tellin them how the game in JERSEY works.

So as u can imagine i let him know he was retarded (in nicer words) and explained that the dope game dont work like that at all, that in NJ the bricks come pre made and the dealers dont cut the dope themself, etc, all that shit, and he came back with that shit that I dont knwo nothing and Im purely ignorant...And that he knows better than me becuz he has 4 kids. AND THREE OF THEM AINT HIS...And that is relevant, somehow, to his dope game knowledge.....


But anyways, i thought u would get a laugh out of that one....Wats good with u lately?

Hows the jersey diesel scene goin...is that "winter fire" out yet?
 
yeah man, you gotta keep it low so when you get that fire you don't pass out. i've been trying to keep it at 2 so i don't spend mad money too when i use. that would suck. lol those stamp names are funny. last stamp i got was voodoo child. that was ok.
 
yo alteknj
I should have said "slightly similar" when comparing Pittsburgh and Jersey. I know we get some of the same shit. Regardless of who takes, and breaks it down, off the boat, and ships it over here. Its obviously hard to tell what percent of the dope in Pittsburgh comes through Jersey. Personally, I'd say low 30%s. I got a question though mr alteknj. You think the same raw dope is used to fill Jersey bags is also shipped to the other major ports around the great lakes (Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, even Erie)? I've seen the same raw in Cleveland, Detroit, and Erie which leads me to believe that its distributed through the great lakes, possibly after Jersey (through the lakes)??
 
Anyways, LOL altek--I got this clown in the dope stamps thread over in DC say some shit like "Haha u feel that tapping on ur chin thats my nutz in ur mouth cuz u dont know shit u dumb guttter whore, u have a pathetic attitude and if you ever was in any hood like that you woulda got killed already so i know you aint nothing but a fake ass busta" and shit like that LOL...

U know why he said it?

Becuz, he posted about his dope stamps that was called *drumroll please*

LIZARD

FIRE ANT

DRAGON

TRIBAL FLUTE

aaannnd.... the grand finale (i kno, tribal flute was a good one but this is better...

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--
-

GRASS!!



He claimed that a shipment of 25 bricks was made, and he listed like 5 other nature related totally ridiculous names for stamps.

And he said that of these 10 or so names, that the 25-brick shipment was made up evenly of those names. That the distributor, when he packaged the bricks, made like 2 or 3 bricks of each stamp, then switched to a different stamp. And that every single one of these stamps was the same dope.

And hes from pittsburgh.

And he was tryin to correct ppl from JERSEY in the thread, tellin them how the game in JERSEY works.

So as u can imagine i let him know he was retarded (in nicer words) and explained that the dope game dont work like that at all, that in NJ the bricks come pre made and the dealers dont cut the dope themself, etc, all that shit, and he came back with that shit that I dont knwo nothing and Im purely ignorant...And that he knows better than me becuz he has 4 kids. AND THREE OF THEM AINT HIS...And that is relevant, somehow, to his dope game knowledge.....


But anyways, i thought u would get a laugh out of that one....Wats good with u lately?

Hows the jersey diesel scene goin...is that "winter fire" out yet?

Haha I gotta get over there and tell him what's up, I'm sure you did already but I love the idiots on these forums. I've been good though, staying out of trouble. Just trying to live, looking for a job, in school again so I'm trying to work my ass off this time so I can graduate and get a degree hopefully. I was clean for about 3 months, but I chipped once or twice over November. Then Christmas came and I went on a binge. Last 3 weeks have been on and off, just binging, chipping, taking breaks, Usual NYC dope I had was FIRE on the mark like always. I did a little shopping around Newark, but was very disappointed for a good 2 weeks. Quality fucking sucked. Count sucked. Price was on the mark though, but it still wasn't even worth it. Even the coke sucked (count, quality). Some spots are off their game now, really annoying. I was about to give up on Brick City but a friend hooked it up with some good fire stuff again from a different area, more notorious area (hot with the cops but better dope). Excellent quality, count was average to good and the price was average to good. Pay a little more for the better stuff, but you can still find CHEAP, POTENT, FAT bags in Newark 2010 I can safely say. I got scared a minute and thought shit was falling apart, but it's middle of Winter. The dope shipments aren't as frequent. I mean the city is flooded in heroin, but there's a small drought like every winter. Both coke and dope. More cuts to make up for profit loss, raised prices, increased heat from the cops. Usual winter shit if your copping on the street, I never had to deal with it because I always had a phone connect until now. I'm not using anymore really. Even though I am/was chipping, I am making sure not to get hooked so I don't get sick. The first few bags you go through are AWESOME after a break but then you just want more to have it. You know how it goes lace, then you end up where you don't want to be.

That "winter fire" ain't popping yet, like I said shit's been off but certain spots got it going. Wait till spring time, but I'm keeping my nose clean and my ass out of the hood as much as possible. Probation, school, getting a job, etc. Not worth a habit or getting caught up again and ending up in jail. My life ain't perfect right now, but I am thankful what I have and what I am striving for because I look back a year ago and I was BAD. A straight up text book junkie drug addict. Ahhh. But taking a chip shot every now and then is refreshing! 8)
How you holding up Lacey? Still clean 100%? On the methadone or suboxone maintenance?

But getting back to that dude in that stamps thread, I'm about to head over and see what this is all about. =D

yo alteknj
I should have said "slightly similar" when comparing Pittsburgh and Jersey. I know we get some of the same shit. Regardless of who takes, and breaks it down, off the boat, and ships it over here. Its obviously hard to tell what percent of the dope in Pittsburgh comes through Jersey. Personally, I'd say low 30%s. I got a question though mr alteknj. You think the same raw dope is used to fill Jersey bags is also shipped to the other major ports around the great lakes (Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, even Erie)? I've seen the same raw in Cleveland, Detroit, and Erie which leads me to believe that its distributed through the great lakes, possibly after Jersey (through the lakes)??

To answer your question as best as my knowledge: probably. But the transportation routes are different. The heroin from Colombia usually makes it's way into the ports in NJ (Elizabeth, Newark) and the tons of ports in NYC. Also a lot of it makes it way through the airports (Newark, LaGuardia, JFK) through couriers or kilo shipments set up. They fly in from the Islands (Cuba, Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic), Central America, connecting flights in Miami, etc. You have the largest heroin market in the country in the Northeast and NJ/NYC is smack :! dab in the middle of it. The seaports and airports make it good way to traffic the dope in, the interstates and highways make moving it around driving easy. The problem with the dope getting to other major distribution hubs such as places like Detroit, Clevelend, Erie, Chicago etc is it is not the SAME quality. These Colombians don't just order up 400 kilos of heroin and it gets into NJ and say 100 of it is supposed to go to the Detroit area, they aren't going to sell them the kilos that are ~95% pure. The make 2 kilos into 3 or whatever. They step on it. This is the first time the dope gets stepped on. So the distributors make money/profit by charging more the price a kilo to a place like Detroit or they might sell wholesale price (a normal price) but that kilo of dope isn't 95% it's 60-70% or even less. Then it trickles down the distributors, middle men, people who deal in weight to your neighborhood
drug dealer. Of course, different areas get from different sources differmr
 
i dont think chicago gets their raw from NJports ,we have the mississippi which seems like far better route then takin it from the south all the way north and then back west....when you can just ride the mississippi up and save a ton on time....i dont know but that is what i would assume would be an easier route...also isnt NJtrade primarily puerto ricans where here in chicago its the nigerians? at least i think thast who runs it here and there
 
yea altek my dude the post got unapproved by another mod bcuz it was purely shit talking, but the dudes name is THE GREEN GOBLIN ill PM u the shit he said LOL, it was madd long and then hes like oh yea and i dont give a shit about this site or posting in this thread at all so screw you! then when you postin a long ass rant about me becuz u got schooled on how retarded u are, buddy? Damn, fuckin clowns...and dude said he was like 40 yrs old or some shit, lol.

Anyways, I hear u I am still on Methadone, got a Dr writin me scripts so no clinic, just straight chillin with my pills, its nice, shits like 18 bucks every 2 weeks and i aint even got insurance its just cheap as hell. beats the dumbass clinic, 55 bux a week, lame shit homie. I would love to chip a little here and there, my birthday comin up but IDK. might just stay clean til may of this year, my po supervisor told me i could get early terminated after i serve a year of my 3 years and thatd be may so im keepin my fingers crossed and just doin good...well see, all in good time, u kno? glad to hear u stayin on point tho, keep that shit in check i wanna see u keep doin good yo.

Anyways, i was jus askin bout the game bcuz alot of these fools in the stamps thread be on some shit like the paterson game has really changed or some ish, then again u dont fux with ptown so idk but just sayin idk if these ppl is just newjacks or if there is actually a difference in the quality lately i kno u always kno wats up tho so wanted to ask u...
 
Back to the tar..
My wife and I grew up in NJ so we grew up on White House, then various other stamp bags from NY, so we're used to good powder.
She's out west in NM now, and loves the dope. You might have to do more, but it's much cheaper by weight. [edit] (I don't mean to price, just want to show it's cheaper than powder) She likes it better and tells me it takes longer to get sick from the tar/brown too. I only did it once out there, and was amazed that .2 grams could do us both. There's no way that 2 bags would have done us both. Unless we're talking about 9/10 or 10/10 bags
 
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lazyjoe, idk wat price u listed, but as somebody from south jersey, u prob was not gettin too good prices. everybody i talk to pays double at LEAST then wat we pay up here in north jerz. Ive had whitehouse in the past, IMO shit from atlantic city and south jersey n all that has always been a definate step below the north jerz fire. not sayin yall couldnt get fire just that the fire down there is lesss common than up here, and the dope down by yall costs more and is generally cut up more. I aint sayin ur girl opinion is wrong, but alot of ppl that Ive talked to have been tar addicts, west coast til they die, and been out here in Jerz got some of our good good and wished they never had to go back. one of my best friends always cops when he comes out east cuz he loves the diesel we get and he use to shoot tar but he only sliff the powder he get out here too.

Its always a different opinion from everybody, i aint sayin there is no wrong, or right. just pointin out my opposite point of view to keep it balanced
 
i wanna try tar just to smoke it and get high

I've always wanted to try a dime of tar too, good tar like the kind they get in Arizona and shit just to compare it to a bag of NJ dope so at least I can finally settle the discussion in my head at least. People say a pinhead of tar can get you blasted, but I've never heard the purity levels of tar being past 50-60%. And I know the bags I've got in Jersey are more than that. A bag used to do me good, when I first started, but everyone I know including me still needs more than 1 to get high and feel good. So how can a little dime balloon of tar supposed to blow me away? But that is what I have heard from multiple people.
 
Well put it this way, I only chip these days, I'd say once or twice a week and take my subs the other days, and the days I chip I'll be off my sub for around 14-16 hours, and all I need is one dime bag of the good tar we get around here to get blasted for a good 6 hours. A dime bag being a .1. It seems people grow a quicker tolerance to powder over tar. Its like before you even know it, people on the east coast are slamming 6-7-8 bags at once, when most even long term users over here can catch a heavy nod on just shooting a few dime bags. I dunno then again maybe I'm wrong.
 
Ive never seen tar in the Detroit area... would love to try.... Im typically a chipper too- on and off- but Ive been caught up hardcore in my day as well with a major habit, and that sucks. Did the sub thing for a while on and off too. I guess it all comes with the territory.
 
i just copped my first bags from SC and i gota say i was disapointed. i recently relocated from Buffalo where for many years ive been around and copped my share of good and bad dope always from the puertoricans. but i just paid 20 dollars a bag...which ive never done...to a middle age white man..which ive never done...to shoot a 2bagger to only feel sickker then i was before?...which has never happend? Now i wasnt expecting to cop the best dope in the league my first time here but the dopeman i got it from kept braggin about how its the best shit hes ever got down south.. i kno he was only tryin to solidify me payin 20 a bag but definately not worth it. Now i was just wonderin if anyone ever copped fire in SC? powder? tar? upstate? by the beach?....who are the people that usually push it?

just tryin to find out a little info. thanks all.
 
i just copped my first bags from SC and i gota say i was disapointed. i recently relocated from Buffalo where for many years ive been around and copped my share of good and bad dope always from the puertoricans. but i just paid 20 dollars a bag...which ive never done...to a middle age white man..which ive never done...to shoot a 2bagger to only feel sickker then i was before?...which has never happend? Now i wasnt expecting to cop the best dope in the league my first time here but the dopeman i got it from kept braggin about how its the best shit hes ever got down south.. i kno he was only tryin to solidify me payin 20 a bag but definately not worth it. Now i was just wonderin if anyone ever copped fire in SC? powder? tar? upstate? by the beach?....who are the people that usually push it?

just tryin to find out a little info. thanks all.

Myrtle Beach area.... has it....
 
i do envy you ny guys.. seems like theres a lotta dope there.
in canada(toronto)on the other hand...:!
 
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