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thanks lace appreciate it...ive been feelin better but still wheezing..imma wait til im out of these antibiotics and see whats up if not, i will be at a clinic..
 
hendrix whats the quality of tar like...does it vary much? or do you normally know what to expect?

i would think the later cause it cant be easy to cut right?
 
hell yes, the quality of tar can vary. I'd say probably more than the powder does in the midwest and east coast. You will cop some tar where a .1-.2, a piece half the size your pinkie nail, will have some people in the hospital from an OD, and then there is the other stuff where u will bang an entire gram in one shot and still be disappointed. If you mean is it possible to tell the quality by what it looks like, thats also kinda up in the air. I used to get this one shit my dealer would call black glass, which was like this smooth really shiny tar, which looked like glass which would have you on a heavy nod real quick. I've also had stuff which was super sticky and gooey which was just as good. I myself have found that the best tar is the tar which is more a brown color than black. The best tar I ever shot was this stuff outta East LA which was brown but literally translucent. Like you could put this shit up to a light and see threw it. Shit was beyond ridiculous in strength.

About cutting tar, I don't think it would be that hard. I remember my dad once told me he was looking at some police data online about heroin seizures in Southern Cali, and that one batch was found to have traces of rat feces, and that the mexicans were cutting the tar with rat shit. He was like, yeah see son, thats what u risk shooting in your veins every time you use that poison. I was like, yep life is full of risks lol
 
ive never seen tar so i couldnt even tell you what it looks like, i thought i was rock hard thats why i wondering about it beng cut...i guess what i was trying to say

with powdered dope you know it starts off pure and gets cut down at every stop between producer and consumer on the street

with tar i was wondering if what you get on the street is what comes out of the lab, like i said i didnt think it would be easy to cut cause its hard


whats tar normally cut with or do you not know...like here in chicago our shit is almost always dormin i believe
 
chinky i never seen tar neither but it aint hard dont u read these threads yo? lol come on...if u ever smoked opium its kind of that cosistency from how they tell it on here tar in general is less pure than powder dope the quality of either one can be higher or lower depends on how much it got cut up but as far as impurities being in it there is much more in tar, and powder dope def. dont get cut at every stop from distributor to street...maybe by u but here where there is stamp bags n bricks etc theres cuttin goin on but not at every single stop...it dont work like that at all the brickman brings the bricks and the dboys sell the bricks there aint cutting happenin in between when they get the bricks its sold as it is bricked up, ppl dont open up 50 tiny ass bags of dope un tape the bag without ripping it at all, totally remove the tape, take the 1/10th of a gram out cut it and re tape and fold the bags then brick 50 bags back up again, 100 times a week...the cuttn happens before it gets bagged taped stamped n bricked once its packed up like that damn near nobody fucks with it. i aint sayin it aint cut just that once it gets to the point of stampin and bundlin up the bags the cuttin part is done its all packaged and the way the brick man get it is the way the dope feen gets it...i kno yall get that shitty benadryl powder out there tho that gets scooped into tin foils pretty arbitrary so its alot easier n commoner for ppl to cut it up alot more than it would out here in jerz/NY
 
Yep, I gotta go with lacey on this one. Usually it gets cut, packaged and stamped at one location usually which is the heroin mill depending on the operation. These people have connects in Colombia or connects that have connects that can import it from South America, then these people usually mill it up, cut it and bag it themselves. Of course it depends on the operation. I know people that would buy ki's and cut it themselves, but you know that ki has been cut already. But that shit was still fire. Also, depending on where it is bagged and bricked is where the cutting stops. The majority of the operations in NJ/NYC has the suppliers bringing it in, it getting milled and bagged/bricked up and then ready for distribution. It might go through a few brickmen before it gets to the hands of your local drug dealer. Some guys buy bricks in bulk to re-sell back down to dudes who sell it to dudes on the corners/projects. So you can imagine how cheap bricks are at the wholesale level, ya dig? I mean [edit] for a brick is cheap, but that's what the dopeboys are paying, maybe even less. But no drug dealer is going to cut open 50 small glassine bags just to make a small profit. It's too much work. Also, the bricks are already packaged and wrapped in porno magazine haha. You know you got a quality brick when it's got the porno wrapped around it. I guess shit out in Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, etc is much easier to cut on the street level because the packaging is easy to alter/replace and they probably can make a decent profit for minimal work, especially very low level dealers/junkies looking to hustle. Opening up some foil and pinching and replacing with Benadryl isn't tough. The packaging over here makes it a hella lot harder to do that. It's all wrapped up, bundled up in a rubber band, every bag is folded and taped up neatly.
 
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naw lace i dont really fuck with the drug talk on this site, i stick to the more social aspect of this site, to me talking about drugs is boring..

never smoked opium either, i know yall on the east get stamps but we dont, and like you said shit is really easy to step on here..sometimes instead of getting foils taped up somedude in on the corner just might have it in a normal nic bag with a staple in it to make it seem like it hasnt been fucked with..but you know that staple dont mean shit.

chicago needs something consistant like stamps...for brandnames here you might get say "redtapes" but i mean anyone can take a piece of foil and add a piece of redtape to it to imitate that brand...you cant really fuck with your packaging or imitate your packaging like they can here
 
n thats why jersey dope is the shit

but chinky u posting in this thread i see u in here and the chicago dope thread all the time yo there has ben mad discussions about tar in here n there i guess u skip over those posts huh...iits all good now i kno u dont read nobodys post but ur own on here;)

alteknj as i am sure u kno u can also get g's of raw out here too alot of ppl dont kno that about jerz even some ppl that live here and does dope dont realize that it aint 100% stamps in the market it just depends who u kno
 
yes that is why jerz dope is the shit lol i need to get out there..can i stay with you for the weekend?

i dont see much talk about tar in this thread and i dont peep DC or OD too often

and the chi dope thread is more about comedy then anything ..TBO im ashamed with it cause those people are such tards ..i know i dont know everything but the questions they ask and the shit that goes on in it are soo off the wall..they think the thread is there to help them to score drugs literally on average 3people everyday ask where to score and i get sick of it so im a snitch or wannabe mod and to them im a poser cause i like to sniff my dope on the weekends not bang 5x a day everyday, and the reason i only do dope on the weekends is cause i cant afford to do it everyday and blah blah...i just bring my lounge fun to the chi thread and they go nuts and i sit back and laugh while they cuss me out
 
Yeah, I'd say the same thing about the tar we get over here. Once its been bagged up in the balloons, I'd say there is a very very small chance its been opened and cut again and resold. And if your buying dope anywhere west of the Mississippi, 90% of the time its going to be in balloons from mexicans. A lot of the times, I'd call my main dude and he would tell me his people are still putting the dope in balloons for him to pick up. To be totally honest, I think most of the cutting for tar happens in Mexico (which can be a lot or a little). Also, tar can be hard or soft. I've had shit which was so soft and gooey it stuck to the grocery bag it was in and was a bitch to get remove, and I've had other stuff which was so hard I had to use a credit card to cut it.

I've heard tar is most commonly cut with lactose, molasses, and brown sugar. However, it can also be cut with everything from coffee grinds, dirt, plastic, etc. Some of the shit I have seen at the bottom of my cooker after cooking up would shock some of you lol.
 
westcoast got balloons and jerz got stamps but chicago has foils, capsuls, nic/dime bags and im sure theres other forms out there..i wish we had something consistant...id kill for a brick from jerz all neatly packaged and shit
 
lacey k said:
alteknj as i am sure u kno u can also get g's of raw out here too alot of ppl dont kno that about jerz even some ppl that live here and does dope dont realize that it aint 100% stamps in the market it just depends who u kno
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Yea I know, but I never actually had any. One of my old guys who was a bit higher up than a street dealer actually could get a hold of G's of raw, but you had to buy a bunch. Like 5-10. I guess it was really for a repacking/selling thing. But other than that, usually anywhere in Newark, Paterson, Jersey City, or anywhere else up in North Jersey, the dudes on the blocks won't be selling G's of raw. Not saying you can't ask around and find someone. You can always find someone through some networking and poking. Dudes might know where to get it or usually guys who are a bit higher up on the chain fuck with that shit. You might have to get in with them first though ya know?

I hear it's a bit easier to get the G's in Camden since it's right there by Philly, and they got their own thing going on. But I personally haven't been able to sample them.
 
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Yea I know, but I never actually had any. One of my old guys who was a bit higher up than a street dealer actually could get a hold of G's of raw, but you had to buy a bunch. Like 5-10. I guess it was really for a repacking/selling thing. But other than that, usually anywhere in Newark, Paterson, Jersey City, or anywhere else up in North Jersey, the dudes on the blocks won't be selling G's of raw. Not saying you can't ask around and find someone. You can always find someone through some networking and poking. Dudes might know where to get it or usually guys who are a bit higher up on the chain fuck with that shit. You might have to get in with them first though ya know?

I hear it's a bit easier to get the G's in Camden since it's right there by Philly, and they got their own thing going on. But I personally haven't been able to sample them.
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for the record for anyone readin who dont kno me, i dont use no more...im clean, been clean, i dont fuck around and shit like this is as far from bein in my life as china is from new jersey. but in the past ive been with/known pp, who copped g's on the street b4. didnt roll up to a random ass d boy but the regular connect got em from his man, if u hit the chirp and got 10+ it would be ready for u in less than a half hr
 
iam east of the mississippi river, even in mississippi, have never seen tar and have never bought dope in points. its allways been half g's or more sold in baggies or corners of sandwich bags. i good bit of the dope around here is either coming in thru the texas border or the port in new orleans or mobile Al.
 
lacey k said:
Hey C wats good girl I been missin ur crazy azz for a minute. Im bout to hit 60 days clean tomorrow yo. aint gonna say im done for good but im chillen for now dont wanna VOP. anyways holla at me u want a "clean off dope pen pal" im down lol ;)
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Oh, shit. 'Sup Lacey?!

How weird is it that I was just thinking about you today? I was wondering if you got clean or locked up or what. Glad to hear it is the former not the latter :) I'm gonna hit you with a PM in a minute.



Actually...your PMs are full. So, clean it out and then let me know.
 
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I've read on here a bunch of times about people from jersey pay less per bag/bundle than in philly? I was wondering why that was. Are jersey bags smaller than philly bags?
 
a philly/camden bundle is 13 bags instead of a newark/ptown bundle which is 10 bags. per bag im not sure. IMO id say because the quality is better because out in philly/camden they have double seals where as in newark/NYC they arnt double sealed. double sealed means they are vacuum sealed in a little plastic bag.

also anyone ever notice that in philly all their bags are blue? why is that? in NYC iv picked up bags that were blue and id be like "looks like someones getting their shit from philly" to my boy and hed be like "shit, howd you know that?"
 
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a philly/camden bundle is 13 bags instead of a newark/ptown bundle which is 10 bags. per bag im not sure. IMO id say because the quality is better because out in philly/camden they have double seals where as in newark/NYC they arnt double sealed. double sealed means they are vacuum sealed in a little plastic bag.

also anyone ever notice that in philly all their bags are blue? why is that? in NYC iv picked up bags that were blue and id be like "looks like someones getting their shit from philly" to my boy and hed be like "shit, howd you know that?"
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I think bundles in North Jersey are cheaper per bag just by a hair. And the quality isn't better in Philly. And there are places in Camden that sell 10 bag bundles. Philly is right behind Newark, Paterson with quality for sure. But just because their bags are double sealed doesn't mean better quality. Nobody is cutting bundles as discussed earlier here. Also just because the bags are blue doesn't mean they are from Philly. I've gotten all different colors bags in North Jersey/NYC.
 
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