Official Heroin Discussion II

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From Seattle to Detroit

I just moved back to the metro Detroit area from Seattle. Out in Seattle you could get 4g of tar for the same price as a bundle in Detroit. The scene there was so different. Much more of an open-air market in my opinion... or rather, the open-air market was much safer. I'm still way too scared to cop alone in Detroit because being some white kid from the suburbs is just asking to get robbed. I've only been chipping since I've got back, but I know the dope is plentiful around here and much better quality than tar (obviously). Tar ruined my veins entirely in a very short amount of time. It's kind of crazy that I moved to a place with great dope only to cut back. Sometimes my logic is ridiculous.

P.S. I don't think this message is breaking any rules since I didn't post the dollar amount or anything, but if it is I'm really sorry. I'm new to this forum so I'm still learning all of the rules.
 
unsui said:
and yeah i was on suboxone for 3mo. i have been on a 2 week long binge that i started up again unfortunately.
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I used to go off and on Suboxone all the time. I figured it was a way to keep my habit from getting too expensive and only use on the weekends. Unfortunately, that usually never went as planned and I think that going off and on Subs was harder on my body than just shooting dope all the time.
 
I used to live in Seattle too and now am back in the mitten. Detroit is just as easy to cop in, but I can see why you would be scared to try it here. In Seattle I always had white dealers and in Michigan it has always been black.

Dope is seriously everywhere in the city though. If you get up the courage you shouldn't have to look too hard.
 
trainwrecker said:
I used to live in Seattle too and now am back in the mitten. Detroit is just as easy to cop in, but I can see why you would be scared to try it here. In Seattle I always had white dealers and in Michigan it has always been black.

Dope is seriously everywhere in the city though. If you get up the courage you shouldn't have to look too hard.
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Yea, I totally see what you mean about the white/black thing with the two cities. The differences intimidate me to some extent. Mainly because I was robbed before in Seattle while trying to cop and Detroit is far more dangerous in that regard. Now I never go out alone just incase. I know it's everywhere here, shit the methadone clinic next door to my house in rural southeast MI is booming with business so I think that says enough. In the meantime, I will probably just keep chipping, which is probably better anyways. sigh.
 
Hendrix Haze15 said:
lol I have to second that. I could never understand how people sniff dope and miss out on the rush. I mean shit, once you got a real habit, the rush is really the only thing to look forward to.
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I'm not trying to encourage people to mainline, because that just seems to go downhill really fast, but man, I wouldn't do dope at all if it weren't for the rush. The nodding out just annoys me. The only reason I ever liked H to begin with was for the first 2-5 minutes that it provides and then after that, I just want to do it again immediately. I guess everyone's different and there's something to be said for not getting abscesses and ruining your veins so whatever floats your boat.
 
boxcut3 said:
I'm not trying to encourage people to mainline, because that just seems to go downhill really fast, but man, I wouldn't do dope at all if it weren't for the rush. The nodding out just annoys me. The only reason I ever liked H to begin with was for the first 2-5 minutes that it provides and then after that, I just want to do it again immediately. I guess everyone's different and there's something to be said for not getting abscesses and ruining your veins so whatever floats your boat.
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Yeah, I mean the rush is like half the reason for doing dope. I mean I love the nod just as much but man I can't see myself doing heroin and not getting the rush. It just wouldnt feel right. My main point was that when most people get a serious dope habit going, unless your rich as hell, you can't afford to be catching that wonderful nod everytime you use and really the rush is the only thing to look forward to. I mean, i remember being dope sick as shit, shitting in my pants kind of sick, and scrounged up 20 bucks and got 2 bags and got well. Those two bags didn't have me nodding but it gave me a nice rush. For people that sniff, those two bags or whatever would just get you well but nothign more. I don't see the point in doing dope if thats how it is. Once you get to the point of just trying to maintain and not be sick, that rush from IV use is the only thing left to look forward to from fixing, unless your doing a huge shot, which most junkies can't exactly afford everytime. I dunno, thats just my opinion. Again, I'm not encouraging anyone to start shooting their dope.
 
manhatred said:
Are you talking about 'Methodone' [sic], with the M in what looks like a milk bottle or salt shaker? Have you seen the ones with blue ink?

Methodone has been around since at least 2001. I had some back then and then I had it again recently. I think they were both red ink altho im not totally sure on that.
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chicagolove said:
that ain't the story for everone who sniffs... out here there are really strong blows that are .30 grams. if you spread 1 to 1.5 of those throughout the day, you can keep a nice lil opiate buzz going throughout the whole day. the most i'll do in one session is half a bag, but i try to keep it less than that and have multiple "sessions" throughout the day. the nice thing about sniffing is you dont got to do it all in one shot. i mean i guess you're not getting a rush like iv anyway, so why do it all at once? my favorite time to do it is the first lil session of the morning. i like to do a half bag spread out through the first hour im up with a cup of coffee. it's a hell of a buzz, and it lasts a lot longer than yer five minute iv rush, ya know. so yeah, i never really get a nod going, but thats not something i desire. i guess i like being able to still be productive while i do drugs, and well, i dont have a trust fund so i gotta keep my habit within the realm of what i can afford. and if i start doing two or more bags a day... well shit then i got a big problem, bc that five hundred i gotta come up with each month for rent and bills does not come easy when you're spending 150+ bucks a week on dope.

so, umm, yeah.. thats my two cents on the matter.
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Well you must be special or just started doing dope, because theres not many people I know who do only half a bag in a session and get high. I mean yeah maybe when you first start doing dope a half bag will get you off, but as time goes on your tolerance is going to go up and that half a bag you doing ain't going to do shit for you. I mean if that half bag gets you that rocked in the morning you must not have a serious habit. I mean I don't care how good the dope your getting is, eventually your tolerance is going to skyrocket. $150 bucks a week? Try a $150 a day. But then again I guess when you sniff you have better control over your habit compared to shooting. Also your tolerance goes up a lot quicker when shooting. So yeah, keep sniffing your dope because it sounds like you can do half a bag and be satisfied and not completely fuck up your life like most heroin users eventually do. I wish I could sniff half a bag and be high and good.
 
boxcut3 said:
I used to go off and on Suboxone all the time. I figured it was a way to keep my habit from getting too expensive and only use on the weekends. Unfortunately, that usually never went as planned and I think that going off and on Subs was harder on my body than just shooting dope all the time.
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That was my master plan as well. I figured I'd just go back to dope to party on weekends, or the occasional weekday. On the other days I would use my suboxone. Before I knew it I was back to using every day.
The biggest problem that developed was that my tolerance skyrocketed so quickly, the subs were making me sick whenever I tried to use them. So it became all dope, all the time again.
Fortunately I've gotten out of it again. Been back on bupes for over two months and have only used twice(didn't feel a fucking thing.) Eventually you've gotta make the decision to commit to getting back on bupe full time. I do still wanna chip every once in a while. See what's happening here.....:|

So, I was wondering what BLer's from the Hartford/Greater Connecticut area have been getting lately. Before I quit we were copping the stamps: "Frosted Flakes," "Apple Jacks," "Mind Eraser," and "Purple Rain."
I was wondering if anyone else had run into those stamps, what they thought of them, and what else you all have been getting lately. I don't wanna call my people to find out from them(cause I'll end up getting something.) I would rather find out from you guys. Thanks in advance.
 
Hendrix, I think that most heroin users probably don't become seriously addicted, but instead we hear about more addicts than casual users because of the shock value that are addicts.

My heroin use went through the goddamn roof when I started shooting though.
 
eyerate said:
new member... sorry if i violate any rules...

i don't understand why there is no decent dope in fl (except Miami)... seems like a pretty sure state being it's surrounded by water...

well it sux in central areas like the orlando to daytona area... everybody is hooked on oxy's and now that market is fuct being the recalls from manufacturers everyone i know is asking me to find em some... and i am discouraged to tell them it's not even as good as the pharms there doin...

what gives?
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i've lived in this swamp for 25+ years and H has never been a big thing here. it's around in wpb/ ftl/ mia/tpa but it's never been anything like up north... which actually was why i moved to this friggin swamp. be dead by now if i hadn't.
 
95Land: This is my first post, and glad to see someone from CT, I've been lurking a long time.

I've tried all those stamps and I would call them all average. Hartford leaves a lot to be desired when you compare to the dope that the others speak of on this thread.

Personally, I haven't had anything out of Hfd in the past 3 years that even compares to the NJ or NY junk and reading this thread makes me salivate only because of my first hand knowledge.

I fondly recall many stamps from NY, some of my all time favorites "All Star" and "The Goat" and a more recent "Hulk 2" Any old timers remember those?

Hartford is so bad, that I, too, resigned to Sub.
 
euphoricnod said:
Hendrix, I think that most heroin users probably don't become seriously addicted, but instead we hear about more addicts than casual users because of the shock value that are addicts.

My heroin use went through the goddamn roof when I started shooting though.
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I dont think that statement is true dude. how many peopel do you know that tried heroin and then became regular users of it, and how many people tried it and never fucked with it again, or only used it once a year or something? Most people that use heroin DO become addicted at some point from my experience. I aint got no facts behind that, i aint claiming its the truth, I am just sayin from all the dopefeens I met, I sure as shit wouldnt say that addicts are the minority of heroin users.
 
Hmm maybe, but I feel like there's a bunch of people out there who chip and can control themselves.
 
For those of you who snort or smoke dope exclusively, I can offer a little bit of information on the difference between snorting/smoking and shooting, as I used to snort/smoke exclusively for 6 or 7 years before I started to I.V.

The biggest differences that I could notice were the following... At first, I never REALLY knew what "The Rush" referred to. I assumed it was the same onset of good feelings one felt shortly after snorting/smoking some dope... But the truth was, I had never REALLY experienced a "Rush" until I first started shooting. For years, I would do dope in pursuit of "the high," but once I started shooting, I found myself instead pursing "The Rush" just as much as I was pursuing the High that would follow. The other thing I noticed was that while I was snorting/smoking, my habit was approximately a bundle (approximately a gram) per 24 hours.... But once I started shooting, I was able to stretch my bundle to last me as long as 3 or 4 days. After a few months, however, I slowly worked my way back up to the bundle-a-day rate, but I'd still say that shooting is a better "deal," as shooting is more efficient than either snorting or shooting, with the added benefit of "The Rush" that accompanies a good shot.

Needless to say -- ALWAYS USE CLEAN GEAR, NEVER SHARE NEEDLES, ROTATE INJECTION SITES, USE ALCOHOL PREP PADS and whatever other sterile equipment you can get your hands on.
 
pukingcells said:
95Land: This is my first post, and glad to see someone from CT, I've been lurking a long time.

I've tried all those stamps and I would call them all average. Hartford leaves a lot to be desired when you compare to the dope that the others speak of on this thread.

Personally, I haven't had anything out of Hfd in the past 3 years that even compares to the NJ or NY junk and reading this thread makes me salivate only because of my first hand knowledge.

I fondly recall many stamps from NY, some of my all time favorites "All Star" and "The Goat" and a more recent "Hulk 2" Any old timers remember those?

Hartford is so bad, that I, too, resigned to Sub.
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Where in NY/NJ did you cop as I cop in both of those states. Also I'm curious how much of a price difference there is between Hartford and NY/NJ. Since we can't quote prices here, send me an e-mail or hit me up on AIM (jtbrixx)
 
lacey k said:
I dont think that statement is true dude. how many peopel do you know that tried heroin and then became regular users of it, and how many people tried it and never fucked with it again, or only used it once a year or something? Most people that use heroin DO become addicted at some point from my experience. I aint got no facts behind that, i aint claiming its the truth, I am just sayin from all the dopefeens I met, I sure as shit wouldnt say that addicts are the minority of heroin users.
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I have to agree with lacey on this. Most people I see at the spots copping are regular users or "hardcore" addicts. I do agree that there probably are a group of people who recreationally do dope, but of these people, I'm sure most will eventually descend into full on addiction while a small percentage will use infrequentely and finally cut it off. This is a very small group however. My whole point was that, as junkies, we all know that once you get a heavy habit, heroin doesn't really get you that high anymore and your really just trying to stay well, unless your doing extremely fat shots which most junkies cannot afford. Once this point is reached, aside from staying well, the rush is what you are going for. With people who sniff, once they get a fat habit going, unless your sniffing a bundle/pack/jab etc. at once, your not going to get that nod, your just going to get off being sick. Atleast when your shooting, you get the rush, whether or not you catch a nod. I dunno, I'm pretty high right now, so I'm not sure any of this makes sense but I hope you guys see what I'm trying to say. Again, I am not encouraging anyone to make that move up to IV, because I can say from personal experience that that is a one way road to completely fuck your life up.
 
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pukingcells said:
95Land: This is my first post, and glad to see someone from CT, I've been lurking a long time.

I've tried all those stamps and I would call them all average. Hartford leaves a lot to be desired when you compare to the dope that the others speak of on this thread.

Personally, I haven't had anything out of Hfd in the past 3 years that even compares to the NJ or NY junk and reading this thread makes me salivate only because of my first hand knowledge.

Hartford is so bad, that I, too, resigned to Sub.
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Aint that the truth, i've been out of the dope scene and on suboxone for about a year now, and the quality of dope i was getting toward the end of my run in Hartford wasn't what it used to be. Guess i got tired of shitty bags and dealing with sketchy people on the streets, didnt seem to be worth it to me anymore.
 
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