Official Heroin Discussion II

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I have really been craving dope lately. Once i get up the balls to drive to the hood i'll try and get some. The last time I went I got "top secret". It was dope.....well, i mean it was good. I just cant seem to get up and go down there especially since its so easy to get ripped off.
 
NJScientist said:
I am really curious about how exactly the experience of heroin differs when one sniffs it as opposed to spiking it.
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If you've been sniffing it all these years I'd really advise you to stick with that. The only bonus you'd get with a spike is a really nice rush. Maybe you'll save $5, too, but that will run out quick since your tolerance will rise exponentially. And you don't want to deal with feeling self-conscious about scars and worrying about abscesses and where to find clean needles and shit...

The spike is great, and I've always said it's the only way to use diesel, but in retrospect, looking back at my using days, it probably isn't worth it.

I'm in NJ, too, used to cop in Newark exclusively. Been on Suboxone maintenance for a few years and just coming off of it now, feeling that urge for my "final hit" again. Do they still have all that fentanyl-laced shit floating around? I'd rather not die because I felt like chipping on a lazy Sunday.
 
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I'm not "sourcing" but has anyone even seen it in RI? I can't even smell the shit. This is driving me crazy.
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ah I feel you pain when I moved from jerz to here getting connects out here is rough no open air shit anywhere so don't even waste your time. I have managed to get some quality product at times. Either always by the gram in plastic corner bags or you gonna get bags and bundles in plain blue glassines no stamp and rarely sealed. Its weird almost all dealers use the same method here.
 
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I've been getting a new bag for the past couple of days and I think it comes from the same people that do the STAR Legend. Here it is:

Stamp + Color | Rating | Powder | Volume | Purchased In
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Renegade (blue) | 8/10 | White | Above-Average | Newark


I am near positive that I have seen this same stamp before except when I saw it last, the stamp was not colored blue, but I believe it was red. I've also been getting more STAR Legend bags, just got 2 Bundles in fact and the shit was superb, 9/10 - 10/10
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Man ive seen almost 4-5 diff. colors on those rengades, either someone keeps running out of ink or afew heads are trying to copy it. I think the blue ones are the legit ones as those were the first ones i ever saw atleast 7-9 months ago and the blue were the best.
 
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You know, it's been a while since I've shopped around, looking for new and better stuff. I have had the same connects for some time now and the bags I always get from them, the type of bags that are a bit narrower than most of the other bags out there (i.e. Perfect 10, Methadone, All Good 2008, Star Legend, and most recently - Therapy). I have always taken these bags to be the best I've ever had and maybe I am foolish to just look at the style of bag and say it is prolly good dope inside but that has always been the case. When I sniff it, I feel it more than with other shit I've tried and after I use, I feel normal for so long, whereas with other bags I've done if I don't use right before bed I won't get any sleep because I'll start fiending again. A few years back I got smokin bags of the same narrow design - Pure Oxygen, High Octane, and Strong Medicine were the stamps on them and I am almost certain it comes from the same place that the Star Legend comes from. And when I first started messing around with diesel I got narrow bags stamped "Oriental Pleasure(s?)", which I also believe is from the same family of dope.

I wouldn't doubt that there is better stuff out there and while I would be very keen to get my hands on it, the security that comes with dealing with people I've know for a while does a lot to ease my mind when I cop. I really can't afford to get popped while cruising around some spot and nodding to the first dude who makes eye contact with me. Staying under the radar til I'm not on paper means a clean record for me and I want that to happen. So, good lookin out but I'm playing it as safe as I can right now.
 
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You know, it's been a while since I've shopped around, looking for new and better stuff. I have had the same connects for some time now and the bags I always get from them, the type of bags that are a bit narrower than most of the other bags out there (i.e. Perfect 10, Methadone, All Good 2008, Star Legend, and most recently - Therapy). I have always taken these bags to be the best I've ever had and maybe I am foolish to just look at the style of bag and say it is prolly good dope inside but that has always been the case. When I sniff it, I feel it more than with other shit I've tried and after I use, I feel normal for so long, whereas with other bags I've done if I don't use right before bed I won't get any sleep because I'll start fiending again. A few years back I got smokin bags of the same narrow design - Pure Oxygen, High Octane, and Strong Medicine were the stamps on them and I am almost certain it comes from the same place that the Star Legend comes from. And when I first started messing around with diesel I got narrow bags stamped "Oriental Pleasure(s?)", which I also believe is from the same family of dope.

I wouldn't doubt that there is better stuff out there and while I would be very keen to get my hands on it, the security that comes with dealing with people I've know for a while does a lot to ease my mind when I cop. I really can't afford to get popped while cruising around some spot and nodding to the first dude who makes eye contact with me. Staying under the radar til I'm not on paper means a clean record for me and I want that to happen. So, good lookin out but I'm playing it as safe as I can right now.
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The red methodone bagels rock, ive been coming across them every now and then for almost 2 years now. Acctaully really recently also. A few weeks ago i got them and they were bangin as ussuall and then after a few days straight of getting them by like the 4th or 5th day the supply ran out i got a differnt stamp and then a few days later the methodone came back it and it was tottally differnt with alot of cut in it. Have you gotten them really recently and noticed that too?
 
Actually, it has been a while since I've gotten Methadone but the last ones I did get were fakes. I'm really surprised to hear that they are still circulating around because, as you mentioned, Methadone has been out there for at least two years. I've only been doing this stuff for four years so I may not have the knowledge of stamps that some other people who frequent this message board do.

I've noticed that even though this thread falls under North American Drug Discussion and therefore could possibly have heads from all over contributing to the collective discussions that go on, it seems that quite a few humans that have replied in this thread are from New Jersey. Am I right on here in thinking that?

And just out of curiosity and for the sake of my crusade to keep this thread alive and breathing, how do you people cop? I myself, am a big fan of the car-to-car exchange where both parties and stay in their vehicles, make a quick switch and be on their way. If it doesn't happen like that, I just park where my man tells me to and he drives to me, parks his own car and then gets in mine or just goes to my window if he doesn't have time to sit and talk. I like these methods a lot and feel very safe using them.

I know that one day, hopefully soon, I'm gonna leave all this stuff in the past but I am captivated by drug culture and like knowing that I have connections to something that is considered underground and out of reach for many people. I hate that it is so hard for me to leave this life behind and it is hard because for some idiotic reason I think I would feel bad if I stop being such a good customer to my dealers. I don't know how you other people do, but a heroin habit does not fit anywhere in a life of mine that involves me having money in my wallet and in my bank account.

And for some reason whenever I sniff them bags, I always type long-ass replies. Sorry.
 
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Actually, it has been a while since I've gotten Methadone but the last ones I did get were fakes. I'm really surprised to hear that they are still circulating around because, as you mentioned, Methadone has been out there for at least two years.
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Are you talking about 'Methodone' [sic], with the M in what looks like a milk bottle or salt shaker? Have you seen the ones with blue ink?

NJScientist said:
it seems that quite a few humans that have replied in this thread are from New Jersey. Am I right on here in thinking that?
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Indeed.

NJScientist said:
I just park where my man tells me to and he drives to me, parks his own car and then gets in mine or just goes to my window if he doesn't have time to sit and talk.
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Something mostly like that. Are you talking about in a city or suburbs?

NJScientist said:
sniff them bags
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Sorry to be encouraging you towards the dark side, but I think you're missing out on the best part.
 
manhatred said:
Sorry to be encouraging you towards the dark side, but I think you're missing out on the best part.
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lol I have to second that. I could never understand how people sniff dope and miss out on the rush. I mean shit, once you got a real habit, the rush is really the only thing to look forward to.
 
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i don't understand why there is no decent dope in fl (except Miami)... seems like a pretty sure state being it's surrounded by water...

well it sux in central areas like the orlando to daytona area... everybody is hooked on oxy's and now that market is fuct being the recalls from manufacturers everyone i know is asking me to find em some... and i am discouraged to tell them it's not even as good as the pharms there doin...

what gives?
 
manhatred said:
Are you talking about 'Methodone' [sic], with the M in what looks like a milk bottle or salt shaker? Have you seen the ones with blue ink?QUOTE]
Yea those are the ones we are talking about, ive been getting them off and on for almost 2 years now and ive only ever seen them in red, recently i got some red ones that were either fake or whoever is putting them out started to cut em down.

But yea Sci im from morris county north jersey but im also a big fan of the car to car. But sometimes you have to wait for them to get there, latley my main guys have really takin a trustin to me so they just have me pull up right infont of thier cribs and I call um 30 seconds from pulling up and tell them to come out with what I need and they just come right out the house and hand it to me right there I cant recall the last time in the past 5 months where ive waited more than 4 minutes for them to come out the house and meet me so thats what ive been stickin to. Ive been put in some shitty situations where ive been told to come upstairs into the <name removed> (not ever doing that again and i highly suggest against it, He asked me to do it again a few times and i told him i just had surgery and couldnt walk so he finnally gave in and sent someone down to me) You ever been asked to come into a building or up into a project?

Also you said youve only been doing it for 4 years, ive only been doing it for 2 but I bang it and got a real bad habit, so im down there everyday atleast once sometimes twice. Hell we have prolly even seen eachother once or twice. But im sure our knowledge of stamps is about the same, Im just down there alot so im seein maybe 3 new stamps a week depending on who im in the mood to go to or my money situation.
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See, the thing is, dope isn't really my drug of choice and that's probably why I can resist slamming the shit. I know that sniffing is inefficient and using a spike gives a way more intense high but I can't stand even thinking about sticking myself. Nearly every other person I've done dope with has described the experience much differently than I felt it. The first time I sniffed dope, I didn't even feel high but maybe I just didn't know what the high was like. I just ended up real tired at the end of the night. All my old buddies said that being on H was like feeling like God but I never shared in that sentiment. And all those old buddies started out sniffing like me but every one of them ended up using works, which I sold them. Me, I would rather smoke pot or drop acid or eat shrooms. I like the psychedelics more but when I was hanging around with dudes who did H, I naturally did H with them and it became part of my life ever so slowly. It's sad but it just gradually became more and more significant to my existence and now I'm at the point where life without using doesn't seem like my life.

My issue is that I love living illegal and H is a habit that I just have a helluva time kicking. I really want to go back to being the drug user I used to be - taking e pills, smoking weed, and doing shrooms and acid whenever I could find some, which was like never, and maybe some coke here and there but I hate being addicted to this stuff and it sucks even worse because I'm a half-ass junkie that won't wisen up and main line the shit.
 
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See, the thing is, dope isn't really my drug of choice and that's probably why I can resist slamming the shit. I know that sniffing is inefficient and using a spike gives a way more intense high but I can't stand even thinking about sticking myself. Nearly every other person I've done dope with has described the experience much differently than I felt it. The first time I sniffed dope, I didn't even feel high but maybe I just didn't know what the high was like. I just ended up real tired at the end of the night. All my old buddies said that being on H was like feeling like God but I never shared in that sentiment. And all those old buddies started out sniffing like me but every one of them ended up using works, which I sold them. Me, I would rather smoke pot or drop acid or eat shrooms. I like the psychedelics more but when I was hanging around with dudes who did H, I naturally did H with them and it became part of my life ever so slowly. It's sad but it just gradually became more and more significant to my existence and now I'm at the point where life without using doesn't seem like my life.

My issue is that I love living illegal and H is a habit that I just have a helluva time kicking. I really want to go back to being the drug user I used to be - taking e pills, smoking weed, and doing shrooms and acid whenever I could find some, which was like never, and maybe some coke here and there but I hate being addicted to this stuff and it sucks even worse because I'm a half-ass junkie that won't wisen up and main line the shit.
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We are kind of alike except i hate psychedelic drugs, bad trip once on shrooms. But i have been doing h for almost two years and i have never brought myself to shoot. I hate needles period. But i also do still enjoy my high when i sniff, its just seems like my tolerance is getting bigger and im feeling sicker sooner. It blows but ill never fix up, even tho most of my close friends that use do..
 
NJScientist said:
See, the thing is, dope isn't really my drug of choice and that's probably why I can resist slamming the shit. I know that sniffing is inefficient and using a spike gives a way more intense high but I can't stand even thinking about sticking myself. Nearly every other person I've done dope with has described the experience much differently than I felt it. The first time I sniffed dope, I didn't even feel high but maybe I just didn't know what the high was like. I just ended up real tired at the end of the night. All my old buddies said that being on H was like feeling like God but I never shared in that sentiment. And all those old buddies started out sniffing like me but every one of them ended up using works, which I sold them. Me, I would rather smoke pot or drop acid or eat shrooms. I like the psychedelics more but when I was hanging around with dudes who did H, I naturally did H with them and it became part of my life ever so slowly. It's sad but it just gradually became more and more significant to my existence and now I'm at the point where life without using doesn't seem like my life.

My issue is that I love living illegal and H is a habit that I just have a helluva time kicking. I really want to go back to being the drug user I used to be - taking e pills, smoking weed, and doing shrooms and acid whenever I could find some, which was like never, and maybe some coke here and there but I hate being addicted to this stuff and it sucks even worse because I'm a half-ass junkie that won't wisen up and main line the shit.
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Dude the first time I did it I didnt feel it either. Also im tottally in the same boat as you wanting to be the drug user I used to be, smoking blunts and bong hits everynight before bed, rolling my balls off, candy flippin and shroomin out in the woods. The problem is 1 I have a really bad habit, bad so you know how the kicking part goes. 2 Im on probation, I can get the dope out my system in time to pass my drug tests. When I take acid E shrooms K xanax or even molly I always want to smoke aton of weed when im on any of those things and I cant get the weed out of my system in time for my drug tests.So before I can go back to my old habits I have to be tottally clean for the next year and a half with the only thing I can use being that genie in a bag.
 
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Dude the first time I did it I didnt feel it either. Also im tottally in the same boat as you wanting to be the drug user I used to be, smoking blunts and bong hits everynight before bed, rolling my balls off, candy flippin and shroomin out in the woods. The problem is 1 I have a really bad habit, bad so you know how the kicking part goes. 2 Im on probation, I can get the dope out my system in time to pass my drug tests. When I take acid E shrooms K xanax or even molly I always want to smoke aton of weed when im on any of those things and I cant get the weed out of my system in time for my drug tests.So before I can go back to my old habits I have to be tottally clean for the next year and a half with the only thing I can use being that genie in a bag.
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Man, I nearly got chills reading your reply. It's almost like reading myself replying to my own post. From smoking blunts to hitting a bong at night, fond memories of rolling on E and tripping on shrooms, the heavy habit, and being on probation knowing that dope leaves your system a whole lot quicker than weed and using the "safer" for the tests. And it sucks because I love smoking weed; I think of weed like sugar (that is,if drugs were food) because like sugar it is sweet just by itself and also like sugar when it is added to something else, it makes whatever it was added to even sweeter.

I'm on probation as well, though technically it is pre-trial intervention. I have to pay my fines, do community service (which is a total cakewalk. I am supposed to do 5 hours every other Saturday, but we only do 2 hours and leave early but still get credit for 5 since nobody, including the P.O. doesn't want to be there) and do the standard probation jig - be employed and give clean piss. At the end of it all in 7 months the charges the were brought up against me will be thrown out and my record will be clean.

I am trying to get my shit together now but I still love to get high and dope is the most practical drug to use. I hope to clean up soon and get my usage back to a recreational level instead of a need-it-to-survive level. Once this whole probation ordeal is done with I am going to get like an ounce of weed and have a toke marathon as a celebration of me no longer having paper with my name on it in the system. I will also be celebrating going back to the lifestyle I love which is me not being a junkie but instead, a responsible drug user that people can respect.
People that use drugs can understand someone who uses H, but most people in my life, like my family, have the view of heroin that the DEA and conservative Christians share. Plus, with the way the economy is going and Obama's take on marijuana, I am optimistic that our laws on pot will be rethought and we might just finally tax the shit and sell it like cigarettes. It might be a pipe dream but I really hope that they legalize it before I die.
I always type so much when I sniff H...8o
 
Eureka/Arcata CA

There is absolutely no heroin here, and there are barely any opioids at all. It's pathetic. No hard drugs besides Meth:p.
 
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