Official Heroin Discussion II

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lacey k said:
ill 2nd that i been coppin in paterson most of my whole carreer as a dopehead and , well sometimes u got to deal with the narcs but thats the breaks. But the prob is once u get a decent record its alot harder to get out of shit, thats tieh position i am in right now, on probation, soon gettin sentenced in superior court of passaic county, judge on some lock u up n throw away the key shit, man shit done changed, the boys is out hard in paterson I cant trust nowhere , always looking behind my back but I stepped up my game and i got to do shit a certain way now and if you moderate your risks your alot better off, Plus it helps that i got mad people in the hood, not people that i kinda sorta know i mean friends that i can sleep on their couch and get a hot meal, I used to live on North 3rd st, Shit aint no joke, everywhere you go its nutz thats just p town for u, i live for it and die for it and i know i will die for it.
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Yea I'll second that shit right there. Once you get in trouble even once, shit becomes tougher on you after that. And if it's like your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc it becomes a whole different game for you. Legally and mentally. I never ever had a problem going into the toughest hoods and projects in Newark and Jersey City and other places too, Paterson once in a while, but now with probation violations, getting locked up again, charges pending and all that it's fucked up. I still have to goto court, Superior Court in Hudson County. So we are in very similar boats. I try to be very fucking careful when I cop now, if I have to myself. But I've started to get other people to do my dirty work. Friends I know I can trust, but who don't care yet because they haven't been doing dope long enough to catch a record yet or anything like that. I probably taught most of them how to cop and do shit, where to go and hooked them up many times when they were too scared to go. Now I am hesitant when I don't have to be. I don't have a habit anymore, I stopped doing dope for a while, but when I do use I can always get someone to get what I need. I still take the risk by going into big cities and meet up to make exchanges, giving them money and then waiting around to get what I need. But it's definitely cutting your risks A LOT and that's what you gotta do. I find it almost impossible to believe someone who stays in the "game" long enough won't catch some charges at one point. And it's tougher for younger people like me, young, white male who sticks out like a sore thumb. I have no problem checking the streets out and going into bad areas and projects and all that. I take it seriously and treat it like a business transaction and I know 90% of the dealers whether they are good or not at what they do, treat it that way as well and won't fuck with me. I've been fucked with before, mugged, robbed, burned, gotten into fights and have had to defend myself. It's all part of the lifestyle sadly, but that stuff dosen't bother me. Legal system is a tough machine to get out of cleanly once you get in. Trying to blend in as best as I can and still getting pulled over and fucked with by the cops is what is frustrating. I can act the way I need to act, talk a certain way, go in with a mindset, be tough and not get fucked with by dudes in the hood, but I will always be powerless over the pigs. Most of them are power tripping, especially the ones working the big cities and ghettos. Not saying I haven't met some nice, decent ones. But the majority of them are out for my ass when they spot me and it dosen't take much for that. Very frustrating situations at times.
 
No doubt the cops are the worst of it by a mile. I'll deal with rip offs, muggers every time but the cops have you a huge disadvantage. I remember a time in Lawrence, Ma. I was copping for upscale Mercedes dude who's parked outside but up the bock slightly. I'd gotten a bundle and slipped the bags into the inside band of the cap I was wearing. It was near dark but not quite and as shit luck would have it, right as I step out the door, a black and white cranks around the corner. They stop me and two others and jack us up against a fence. I see the Mercedes pulling off and gone. The jack us around the usual pockets, shoes etc.. and that and run out names for warrents. One of them takes my hat off and I figure I'm done as he slaps it against his leg while giving me shit. He then places it back on me head! Now my hands are shaking on that fence and the other one comes and he grabs the hat off and is about to shine his flashlight into it when his talkie squawks back too him with the info that I got no warrents. He answers with the mic on his shoulder and again sets the hat back on my head and tells me to skate and don't come back round. My story was that I was looking for my junkie girlfriend who'd stolen my paycheck money and blah blah...I was out looking for her. I walk away knees shaking get round a corner and praise god! I got to keep the whole bundle since Mercedes boy never came back but it was one close call I'd had while holding. I had a couple of sting jobs where you go too the spot and it's cops playing dealers and taking everyone's money. Those suck too but again better then busted since they always let me go after sitting on the floor for 30 minutes or so. Pisses me off when cops jack you up and take the money then say get outta here. Better then busted though.
 
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CT_Finest said:
JW if anyone know if the H is poppin anywhere in CT? No sourcing, just wondering. Been askin alot of my friends and it seems everywhere is dry.
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Yeah I've been looking for some good dope in CT to. Supposedly some in NH but the last time I tried to pick up it was garbage. It's hard to find. I'd say hit up Hart or Bridge to be more successful but don't have experience in either.
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wow, i never heard of cops playing as dealers just so they could take your money and not even arrest you. that's so fucked up. the best shit you could do to stay safe is just find someone that delivers. that's who i'm fucking with now. someone who meets me in 10mins. not in the ghetto. and it's in manhattan. but the quality last time was kind of a disappointment. but it's usually good. maybe it's the people he got it from. and he threw me a new one. maybe cause he knew i would find it not up to par. but whatever. sometimes you have disappointments in this game.
 
jerseyfresh said:
whats the scene like in LA? open air markets in the hood? mostly tar i'd assume?...
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Not as many open air markets as there used to be 4-5 years ago, but there are still certain parts of downtown where you'll find a few mexicans whispering chiva. It's not all tar either, theres a good amount of brown powder going around too, but not as much as there was a few years ago. I remember a few years ago, all I was getting was balloons of brown powder. The last time I copped was in south central and the tar was pretty good. I don't know how it is where your from, but if your white, forget about going into LA hoods to cop.
 
HendrixHaze- I've been searching for dope ever since i moved here, mostly over east and south of downtown, i guess skid rowish area and i ask people for chiva and they look at me like im a fucking alien. i dont know if im looking in the wrong place or what. And why do you say forget about going to the hood to cop in LA if you're white? because ill get arrested or jumped? god i wish i had a number to call like i did before i came here, so much easier.
 
I'm surprised your having trouble in downtown jerseyfresh. Could be that they think your a cop or something. I dunno. Everyone I know, including me, has never had any trouble finding dope in downtown. Also, stay away from skidrow. It's a good place for rocks, but the heroin is another story. You will either get sold some completely bunk shit, some really shitty dope, or very very rarely find some really good dope. When I say don't go into the hood, I mean south central and parts of east LA ( especially boyle heights). South central isn't really like anywhere else. Its not like chicago and jersey where the dope dealers cater to suburban white people. Most of the people copping dope in south central, actually live in the area. You won't really see a steady line of people from outside the area making trips into south central to buy dope. Those people usually stick to downtown unless they already know people in the hood they can go see. I dunno, I just got done fixing, and I ramble when I'm high, so I hope I didn't lose you. Basically, just stick to downtown and you will find something.
 
jerseyfresh said:
whats the scene like in LA? open air markets in the hood? mostly tar i'd assume?...
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Idunno that much about really deep in LA but any thing thats close like 30 minutes or less from the beach is where I will cop because thats where I live. The dope in these So Cal beach towns is like this, You can cop balloons, or wraped in any thing for that mater form certain 'street people' but theres lots more crack than dope on the 'street'. Anyways, the next best thing is a good number(that will come to you and wont make drive/walk/bike). Most of the time this person is always mexican and depending on how they are they might be there in 5 minutes or maybe on hour, but waiting sucks regardless.
 
yeah im in the south bay, ive been driving downtown (where the big buildings are?) and either im in the complete wrong area or am just asking the wrong people.
 
lacey k said:
Im a white girl, Italian with a sketchy mutt background. I get mistook for latina alot. But i walk the streets of paterson all over. Maybe it is becuz it aint unfamiliar to me. it dont scare me im a part of it. Ive walked and drove. only time i ever catch heat is driving, wit a white person with me. Seems like nobody looks cross eye at a lil hoodrat lookin chica walkin up 10th ave with a bag of chicken and C&C but ride up with the whiteboys from the suburbs and you gettin stopped. I like to do my biz on my own, or have someone do it for me. whenever other ppl gets involved its always seems like trouble for me. I jus walk up that block like I own it. Dont matter, people there knows me anyways like Oh thats __. Im ight. Im just getin real tired of walkin that block tho.
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Im that whiteboy from the suburbs, but Ive only been busted in ptown once, and its because i was driving the wrong way down a one way without a license. And this is coming from someone who went to paterson at least once a day for drugs almost every day of the year, for a couple years. Once you been at it for long enough you learn how to do it. I know exactly which streets to take in and out, where youre really unlikely to even pass a cop. I usually dont even see a cop when i go down there. Also, most of my connects are outside of the hood. Even when you have to cop in the hot areas, theres so many dudes watchin the block that its really unlikely youre gonna get busted doin the deal. The trouble is after you leave the spot and you got the drugs, but like I said if you know they right streets to take, youre good.

Even when I do pass a narc sittin on the block, even when i look the dude right in the eye walkin past him they dont really bother me. I dont look like im from around there (at all), but cops can smell fear and when they see me they know i aint scared. Ive dealt with so many of them that it doesnt phase me. If you look like a scared little white boy, then yea, you gonna get harassed, but if you can stay low key youre all good.
 
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alteknj said:
Yea I'll second that shit right there. Once you get in trouble even once, shit becomes tougher on you after that. And if it's like your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc it becomes a whole different game for you. Legally and mentally. I never ever had a problem going into the toughest hoods and projects in Newark and Jersey City and other places too, Paterson once in a while, but now with probation violations, getting locked up again, charges pending and all that it's fucked up. I still have to goto court, Superior Court in Hudson County.
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Word.. the stakes do get higher and higher. I know its stupid, but I still cop with pricey warrants and no one to bail me out. I just dont have the money to send someone else for me, and I have a heavy duty problem. I know I'm going to be in jail soon enough so I guess that all works into my "I dont give a fuck" attitude. Then again it will probably be like 30-60 days nothin major, I dont know how much time you guys have over your head, im guessing a lot
 
I feel for you B, When you got to have , you got to have it and no amount of heat is gonna keep you away. I does become a matter of stats though and eventually it's over if you got warrents. It sucks hard W/D in the slammer to. I know! I went for two weeks once (before I could get out) and was sick as a dog almost the whole time. I got nothing but some meds for the shits. That was my only time too so I consider myself extremely lucky considering the time I been at it. You right though, If you look like you belong, you don't get eyeballed as much.
 
If you shoot up Roxicodones, does it really matter if you dont heat up the water with the crushed up pills? Or would it be wasting it? And how long are you supposed to heat it up for if say you crushed up like 2 - 30mg's of it???
 
Is it just me or is the tar in SF garbage lately? I swear I haven't gotten real true fire in DAYS and I been trying all over this damn city and even out in the East Bay. I'm NOT trying to source, just wanna know if there is any hope.
 
Pct said:
Word.. the stakes do get higher and higher. I know its stupid, but I still cop with pricey warrants and no one to bail me out. I just dont have the money to send someone else for me, and I have a heavy duty problem. I know I'm going to be in jail soon enough so I guess that all works into my "I dont give a fuck" attitude. Then again it will probably be like 30-60 days nothin major, I dont know how much time you guys have over your head, im guessing a lot
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Hey man. If you know your going to be locked up for a month or two for sure, then the might as well attitude plays heavily for you. And I am sure you have dealt with it before or know what you are dealing with, since it seems you got some brains (I can relate to almost everything you said in your posts) but kicking cold turkey when your locked up sucks. Good thing is, you'll be clean at least for a little bit, get your head straight and get your tolerance down. I can't make you stop doing dope, but you admitted you have a heavy problem as I am sure a lot of us do. But some time away definitely helped me out, when you are in the midst of a heavy heroin binge/addiction you think differently. Get it out of your system in 2-3 weeks and you'll feel real good again and not like shit most of the time except when your not getting high. I know I had a heavy habit, I kicked cold turkey in jail, did a little bit of rehab, and it's easier to tame myself now with a clean slate. My tolerance went down, I have money and don't NEED a fix, and when I'm getting there I can see it and stop myself. Granted, it's not a good way to live and it dosen't solve all my problems, but it definitely helps a lot if I'm still using dope no matter what, heavy problem or not.
 
the worst thing about dope is the fact you dont take a shit for days sometimes...
 
You should go into the "Other Drugs" (or was it "drug culture") I forget but one of those forums has a big thread/guide to copping in dangerous/unknown areas. Since you are in Jersey, there should be plenty of dope around if you go to the right place but Iheard they are cracking down hard. By the way - YOu can't ask for a connect on this forum your post will prob get editted by a mod. If you want to keep some distance between yourself and the heat, you are gonna have to pay a middle man to cop dope for you. If you go down to the projects and walk around you can prob strike up a convo with a few junkies, select the least sketchy of them all and ask them to buy a small amount for you or something. Thats what I'd do at least if I were in your position.

Getting a call-and-meet connect usually takes a long time to establish... you cant just ask for one on an online message board and expect somebody to be like "you call xxx-xxx-xxxx for some diesel!"
 
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Ha,ha,ha....yeah right! That's laughable (sorry). You'd prefer a call and meet hookup? Hell, I'd prefer a winning lotto ticket while your at it. Think about what you're asking Moxy? Sorry to say but you could be Heat for all anyone knows? If you live in Jerz and say you've been into the scene, then you really ought to know what to do without someone on a "board" telling you. Think of it this way. It's street smarts and may (or may not) turn out to be a "life lesson" learning experiance for you. Maybe the detox misery is the way to go.

I understand the OC problem for sure since it's the same everywhere (too expensive). But, that said, your best bet will be using your OC connects or other people in your situation. There is certainly plenty of deisel in The Jerz. Seek and yee shall find.
 
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