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OD'd.

You can most certainly go into severe WD's from narcan while on methadone. I was somewhat unresponsive after a good dose of pentobarbital (i wasn't ODing, this is simply the effect of pentobarbital), and the paramedics were called (it shouldnt be considered an OD if you are arguing with the paramedics). This being said, exercise extreme caution when mixing strong barbs and methadone/opioids, if dosed improperly you could fatally OD (the line between getting high and dying is especially fine here).

At the hospital they gave me narcan, and the withdrawal was very intense
(240mg/methadone). After a few hours, I walked home.
 
The structure of alprazolam shows a tertiary amine, so I don't know exactly why it won't form salts. Maybe it DOES but they are slow acting or inactive...
 
it coulda been a different form of xanax ,cause wouldnt they have found pill binders if it was a pill crushed up in it and the shot woulda been sludgy if alot of pill binders were in there

also it would take alot to really affect some people so yea it doesnt add up
 
different form of xanax? how many different kinds are there? I know there is a couple others, salt forms, which haribo 1 mentioned, but he also mentioned that they are either slow acting or completely inactive, and they arent readily available. Youd have to take a large amount of alprazolam and convert it to a salt, and I dont think thats a process someone is going to go through just to cut their dope. Its also a process most street level drug distributors dont know about (high level drug producers probably dont even know about it) so its unlikely that this is the case.

Its possible to get a hold of bulk pharmaceuticals. Pure alprazolam powder. Its actually very easy. That is most likely what happened in this instance.
 
Alpralozam is not water soluble, so it could not have been put into H powder and dissolved in water and pulled into a syringe. Xanax has to be dissolved in glycol I believe to be used IV/IM, and it is very rare that that form of preparation is made since xanax is of very little use IV/IM since it is so fast acting orally. So unless the people were using glycol to dissolve their H and shoot up then I very much don't Alpralozam found it's way into their shots.
 
^ Thats exactly what Phrozen and I were pointing out. Its unclear how the people in the article were dosing the heroin, so we cant assume that they were shooting it.
 
i mean pure powder xanax as in different form other than xanax pills crushed up etc

so if you add citric acid to xanax to make it soluble what happens when the water+citric acid is evaporated is the xanax back to plain ol insoluble xanax?

oh and i have takin xanax before and felt it very strongly the next ,morning ..many many times so has my g/f she can take it one night ans sleep most of the day the next day,so it can be very well why he OD'd
 
Im not sure if its soluble in citric acid. I know it is soluble in alcohol though, but if these people didnt know there was alprazolam in there heroin, they wouldnt know to use alcohol. Even if they did know it was in there, they probably still wouldnt know to use alcohol.

Most likely they are snorting it, the alprazolam drips down to their stomach and becomes active. Like you said, its possible for people to get knocked the fuck out and sleep long periods of time on xanax. Now, Id imagine there is a decent sized dose per bag of dope, and considering most heroin users use more than one or two bags of dope, they probably got a pretty large dose of alprazolam.

If they had no tolerance, chances are they would die (which did happen.) If they have taken xanax before and have a tolerance, they will probably just be asleep for a long time (which is also happening.) I really doubt any of them are in literal comas. It is probably just an exaggeration by the police to scare the public (can you believe it? police exaggerating the truth?) into not doing heroin.

Anyways, if this is the case, its not a heroin OD in the true sense of the word. Its multiple drug overdose, but its much better to play it off as a heroin OD and say that the alprazolam is just some type of mysterious cut. Notice how they never actually said the word Xanax in that article? They cant demonize xanax too much. After all, it is in every soccer mom in Americas medicine cabinet. I found it funny they were calling it a "poison" and "toxic" though. How wrong is that?

Also, chances are, due to word of mouth on the streets, heroin users are probably running out at first word of it to get this miracle dope that makes you nod out for 2 days, causing even more hospital visits.
 
^ It wasnt, thats what makes it so confusing. From the information given, Id assume it was being snorted, as that is the only route (aside from oral) that would allow the alprazolam to become active by causing it to drip down the throat into the stomach, unless all these drug users are well educated and knew that there was xanax in the dope and knew how to make it soluble. I highly doubt that, though. IVing it wouldnt even get it into your system if it were prepped like a normal shot of heroin.

Who knows, though.
 
yea somtimes i wish there were people on the olice squad that was a drug geek like all of us in the bluelight community,so they would point out weird stuff like that article ,like h they couldnt hav od'd from xanax IV etc

but all they worried about is getting out the message that heroin is the route of all evil, know what i mean

where did that incident happen ?? state wise,what do they suspend valium in when they make the injectible version of valium? can that be done with alprazolam?just curious

and im sure if you mentioned that they couldnt have shot the xanax they would get really pissed
 
I read that is something like 1 in 16 soluble in ethyl alcohol, 1 in 2 in chloroform, and 1 in 39 in ether. So I'm figuring they use one of those for IV/IM injectable solutions.

And yes they can make an injectable form of alprazolam, but as I stated before, it's not really practical since it works so fast orally and benzos are only IV'd for certain reasons, like sudden severe anxiety attacks, which they tend to use Ativan for, seizures, which they also use ativan for and also diazepam, and to keep people calm if they are in intensive care unit, which Ativan and Valium are usually the drug of choice. All of which Xanax is not any good for, just for anxiety attacks, but people usually can't swallow pills during an attack and Ativan and Valium work longer anyways, and Xanax doesn't have anti-convulsive properties like ativan and valium and klonopin, and for keeping people in ICU calm once again it doesn't last that long so it's use is not very efficient.
 
[HTMLdamn, wt? you overdosed Nada were brought back to life/ enabled t breathe and all you're thinking of and one of the first things you do when you leave the hospital is shoot some more heroin?

bro, I dont mean to sound preachy or liek an asshole, but for real, it sounds like you need to quit that shit, if only till u get yourself together. go to rosecrance or some kind of rehab clinic and get clean. it sounds like youre in a dark place.][/HTML]
trust me I know the guy who had a heard atteck from cocaine and as soon as he left hospital he was using again and to be onest with you if I have dope left I would shoot it up to
 
Well I say the alpra caused it because, for some reason I get extremely sleepy and extremely euphoric for the next two days whilst shooting H. I don't do it very often so I have no tolerance to it. I took aplra once before and it caused OD the next day, thats the only real evidence I have of it causing an OD. (I only figured this out the second time) I always get the exact same stuff from the same dealer and I always slam the same amount (the whole bag ~250mg of mexican brown powder).

As for hours in between I snorted 2mg and shot 1mg (with citric, I was bored and it seemed to work) at about 9pm the night before the OD, I took the shot of H at 11am the next morning.

Alexlife-Again I didn't say it was smart to shoot H right after getting out, I just did it because I had it on me and had time to kill before going home.

6/7-You definately may have something with the drip, it is possible a sizable amoutn could stay in my nose and continute to drip long after snorting, I don't blow my nose often. Increased CNS depression causing the problem. EDIT- Also, I just remembered the cop saying I was breathing 4 times per minute but unresponsive. So it's obvious to me now I wasn't dead, however they dragged me a good 15 feet but couldn't wake me. Maybe if the oxygen was flowing in the mask that would have been enough to get me up and going like it did the first time.

Thanks for the responses. And sorry for the original lack of details. Regardless of anything I'm not taking alpra again. Ever, not worth the risk.
 
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Well I say the alpra caused it because, for some reason I get extremely sleepy and extremely euphoric for the next two days whilst shooting H. I don't do it very often so I have no tolerance to it. I took aplra once before and it caused OD the next day, thats the only real evidence I have of it causing an OD. (I only figured this out the second time) I always get the exact same stuff from the same dealer and I always slam the same amount (the whole bag ~250mg of mexican brown powder).

As for hours in between I snorted 2mg and shot 1mg (with citric, I was bored and it seemed to work) at about 9pm the night before the OD, I took the shot of H at 11am the next morning.

Alexlife-Again I didn't say it was smart to shoot H right after getting out, I just did it because I had it on me and had time to kill before going home.

6/7-You definately may have something with the drip, it is possible a sizable amoutn could stay in my nose and continute to drip long after snorting, I don't blow my nose often. Increased CNS depression causing the problem. EDIT- Also, I just remembered the cop saying I was breathing 4 times per minute but unresponsive. So it's obvious to me now I wasn't dead, however they dragged me a good 15 feet but couldn't wake me. Maybe if the oxygen was flowing in the mask that would have been enough to get me up and going like it did the first time.

Thanks for the responses. And sorry for the original lack of details. Regardless of anything I'm not taking alpra again. Ever, not worth the risk.
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First Bold Part: I never understood this. Ive heard similar stories once or twice before, but alprazolam is so short acting, I dont understand how it could cause an OD that much later. Even if you snort it, I dont think its going to sit up in your nose that long. Your sinuses can clean themselves out, and usually do, completely getting rid of any residue by an hour or two later.

Second Bold Part: Again, I guess its possible with snorting it, but it would seem that if it was going to cause an OD, it would be within a few hours of when you initially snorted it.

I dont know though. Im not saying youre lying. I believe you. I dont know, though. It certainly is a weird situation.
 
Yea I dunno, only thing I could think of. Thanks for the input, I think that's all we're gonna get out of this...unless someone else has questions. Thanks for the replies!
 
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