Misc Odd reaction to tryptophan-rich foods before bed.

[q21q21]

Caution: Unless you know a lot about neuro-chemistry and/or pharmacology and/or psychology you will likely be confused by this.

I should tell you now that I have many really odd and paradoxical reactions to drug and psychedelics.
The actual condition I have I am not sure, the general symptoms are: Excessive daily sleepyness, general + social anxiety and an odd thinking pattern which include an eidetic memory, strong lateral thinking skills but often overly-specified thinking. (missing the big-picture).
I've had 1 consultation with a psychiatrist who tried to throw SSRI's at me but I refused because I am not medium-ly to seriously depressed which is the only thing they have proven to be significantly effective for over placebo for. I'm getting another consultation scheduled in the near future though. I anticipate that a low-dose DNRI like Ritalin or maybe Adderal or Dexedrine will prove to be beneficial for me... but anyway.

So anyway about the odd reactions. About 98% of the time I don't get serotonin or dopamine release from psychedelics or drugs.
Ex: I take MDMA and I get anxious, distractable and dysphoric.
Ex: I take LSD and I get visuals and perspective shift but sedation, anxiety, dysphoria and distractability.

Now I won't go on anymore but that is just to tell that my body is weird about serotonin and dopamine release and when it does happen it is just like I read it is for everyone else, when it doesn't then the symptoms like above are experience.


The reaction in question:
Tonight is the third time this has happened to me. The first 2 times I ate 50mg of 5-htp at noon then a meal with tryptophan-rich foods less than 3 hours before bed. Pork and Soy protein (50% protein) and then when I went to bed I woke up after 1:30-2:30 hours groggy for the first 3-4 minutes but then very stimulated and then euphoric for several hours.
The next day I (in both cases) I was more energetic than usual but needed to nap or go to bed a couple hours earlier than usual but no hangover or anything, just what one would expect from sleeping only 1:30-2:30.

Tonight it happened again but this time I didn't take 5-htp and I didn't take it yesterday either.

Below is a Journal entry from just a bit ago, abridged to just include the important stuff

4:51 AM 10/3/2011
I didn't eat much at the ... frenchies' (I should really learn their last name, haha) house cause the main course was VERY fishy with calamari mixed in the sauce. I did choose to test the meat theory a third time despite the fact that I had not taken 5-htp that day and eat some meat right before bed (12:12) and at 3:18 BAM, I'm up.

I already -~- did a lot of useful stuff -~-.

The main thing I wanted to note was the 3 separate theories I have on the meat-reaction.
1:The tryptophan in the meat produces excess of serotonin which wakes me up and my mildly delirious state produces the conditions for serotonin release.

2:Something to do with the digesting of the meat just stresses my body (could be the above) which simply wakes me up and causes me to sleep by-phasically which for some reason puts my body into a state to release serotonin properly.

3: Again, the meat digesting wakes me up and the serotonin release I typically have during the hours I am normally asleep happens when I am awake. I definately notice when I binged on GHB that past midnight I got this rush that ended in binging all-night MANY times...

It could be partly 2 or 3 of them or whole-y. I dunno.

So I really don't know if anyone would know much about this but I suppose at minimum it could be an entertaining read for some. I will continue to try to find the answer myself regardless of 100 replies or 0 though.

Cheers

 

[Darksidesam]

Do you get a different reaction from eating,
chicken than you would from eating turkey?

 

[q21q21]

It was pretty much exactly the same with Pork or Soy Protein. Only 2 I've tested.
And this reaction is ONLY if it is before bed. Doesn't do anything beyond placebo during the day. I say that because I have become more energetic, very sleepy or the same in the hours after eating tryptophan-rich foods during the day.