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Obama's Demented Drug Policy
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Huaca
Greenlighter
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Im ANGRY.
Although his term in office is nowhere even near 1/4 - so I dont have proper grounds to judge him, Mr.Obama is going back on EVERY matter that was of importance to me and were previously addressed in the "correct" manner by Mr.Obama.
I do feel "duped" and lied to. First and foremost prior to his election Mr.Obama made HUGE claims (recorded) about the recognition of the Armenian Genocide in 1915 and how the Turkish Govt should stop hiding behind its lies denying it and come to the truth (Gaining MASS popularity with the Armenian community all over the world). Fast forward post election Mr.Obama is making a visit to turkey to "Strengthen bonds" between the two countries and makes no mention of ANY wrong doing in regards to the genocide. I found this disgusting and felt like as if i was betrayed.
1. Fuck you obama your a liar
Furthermore Mr.Obama's acceptance of the money raised by the "pro legalization" group should be returned in my opinion, He made false claims in support of marijuana. While I do understand that he never made claims to legalize the plant, he sided with a pro legalization group and has been recorded many times saying decriminalization would be ideal. Fast forward to his election and "town hall meetings" he makes that same group look like a bunch of stoners who are absolutely insane to believe that legalization could even remotely help the economy.
2. Fuck you Mr.Obama your a liar, cheat, thief and a Hippocrates.
Obama's stance on EVERY OTHER MAJOR SUBJECT has been reversed.
1. the war - expanded & more troops sent ( original claims were to end the war imidiatly and bring as many troops home AS SOON AS POSSIBLE)
2.Bailouts - He was critical of George Bush's initial bailout but since gaining office he has bailed out EVERY MAJOR CORPORATION, not once but SEVERAL TIMES ( GM, AIG etc etc etc...)
I can write a list that goes on.
As far as "HOPE" an "CHANGE"
I "HOPE" YOU DONT GET RE-ELECTED
BETWEEN YOU AND THE LAST IDIOT I SEE NO "CHANGE"
I regret voting for you, I regret having belief in the system again, i regret many things.
I genuinely believe that when this is all said and done, we will see LESS voters in the NEXT election then we did the LAST time bush got elected.
If its all the same, people are going to be discouraged to even vote, like they previously were.
Although his term in office is nowhere even near 1/4 - so I dont have proper grounds to judge him, Mr.Obama is going back on EVERY matter that was of importance to me and were previously addressed in the "correct" manner by Mr.Obama.
I do feel "duped" and lied to. First and foremost prior to his election Mr.Obama made HUGE claims (recorded) about the recognition of the Armenian Genocide in 1915 and how the Turkish Govt should stop hiding behind its lies denying it and come to the truth (Gaining MASS popularity with the Armenian community all over the world). Fast forward post election Mr.Obama is making a visit to turkey to "Strengthen bonds" between the two countries and makes no mention of ANY wrong doing in regards to the genocide. I found this disgusting and felt like as if i was betrayed.
1. Fuck you obama your a liar
Furthermore Mr.Obama's acceptance of the money raised by the "pro legalization" group should be returned in my opinion, He made false claims in support of marijuana. While I do understand that he never made claims to legalize the plant, he sided with a pro legalization group and has been recorded many times saying decriminalization would be ideal. Fast forward to his election and "town hall meetings" he makes that same group look like a bunch of stoners who are absolutely insane to believe that legalization could even remotely help the economy.
2. Fuck you Mr.Obama your a liar, cheat, thief and a Hippocrates.
Obama's stance on EVERY OTHER MAJOR SUBJECT has been reversed.
1. the war - expanded & more troops sent ( original claims were to end the war imidiatly and bring as many troops home AS SOON AS POSSIBLE)
2.Bailouts - He was critical of George Bush's initial bailout but since gaining office he has bailed out EVERY MAJOR CORPORATION, not once but SEVERAL TIMES ( GM, AIG etc etc etc...)
I can write a list that goes on.
As far as "HOPE" an "CHANGE"
I "HOPE" YOU DONT GET RE-ELECTED
BETWEEN YOU AND THE LAST IDIOT I SEE NO "CHANGE"
I regret voting for you, I regret having belief in the system again, i regret many things.
I genuinely believe that when this is all said and done, we will see LESS voters in the NEXT election then we did the LAST time bush got elected.
If its all the same, people are going to be discouraged to even vote, like they previously were.
MORE OBAMA LIES AND CONTRADICTIONS.
1. He promised to get a shelter dog for his family, but didnt and made up excuses. fuck you
2. He promised 3 months ago: "I will BAN ALL EARMARKS, they breed corruption".
Last week: "If done correctly, earmarks are a good thing" and signed a bill with (9000 + earmarks)
3. He claimed he would allow the public 5 DAYS to read the stimulus package. He didnt even allow congress time to read the almost 1200 page document
i hope i have to eat my words one day, i believed in the motherfucker.
i have lost all hope.
FUCK
THE
SYSTEM
1. He promised to get a shelter dog for his family, but didnt and made up excuses. fuck you
2. He promised 3 months ago: "I will BAN ALL EARMARKS, they breed corruption".
Last week: "If done correctly, earmarks are a good thing" and signed a bill with (9000 + earmarks)
3. He claimed he would allow the public 5 DAYS to read the stimulus package. He didnt even allow congress time to read the almost 1200 page document
i hope i have to eat my words one day, i believed in the motherfucker.
i have lost all hope.
FUCK
THE
SYSTEM
Inso
Bluelighter
^Whats the deal with Obama's fucking dog getting a full five minutes of news coverage the other night, seriously who cares?
A man died & went to Heaven.
As he stood in front of St. Peter at the pearly gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, 'Why are all those clocks here?'
St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands on your clock move..'
'Oh,' replied the man, 'very interesting... whose clock is that?' 'That's Mother Teresa's clock,' answered St. Peter. 'The hands have never moved, indicating that she has never told a lie.'
'Incredible!' exclaimed the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'
St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved only twice, telling us that Abe has told only two lies in his entire life.'
'Where's Barrack Obama's clock?' asked the man. 'Barrack's clock is in Jesus' office. He's using it as a ceiling fan."
As he stood in front of St. Peter at the pearly gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, 'Why are all those clocks here?'
St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands on your clock move..'
'Oh,' replied the man, 'very interesting... whose clock is that?' 'That's Mother Teresa's clock,' answered St. Peter. 'The hands have never moved, indicating that she has never told a lie.'
'Incredible!' exclaimed the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'
St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved only twice, telling us that Abe has told only two lies in his entire life.'
'Where's Barrack Obama's clock?' asked the man. 'Barrack's clock is in Jesus' office. He's using it as a ceiling fan."
robatussin
Bluelighter
good joke but it works on any president.
You people put too much faith in politics without realizing what a politicians job is. You try and have a job where you have to make everyone happy, then come back and report on it.
BTW i am obviously not talking to you guys that are ready to make inflammitory posts under this
You people put too much faith in politics without realizing what a politicians job is. You try and have a job where you have to make everyone happy, then come back and report on it.
BTW i am obviously not talking to you guys that are ready to make inflammitory posts under this
foodisgood
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Sorry for the poor grammar. Ranting and not sober
1. Decriminalization is complete bullshit plain and simple. I understand the logic of it being a good first step to legalization, but I find it completely idiotic to argue in support of decriminalization. First off all of the issues associated with prohibition will still be prevalent, besides money spent on the CJS. The black market will still exist, and since growing will still be a felony, prohibition would still be in full force on the supply side. Second, I simply cannot understand how to argue for decriminalization and that prohibition causes x, y, and z when decriminalization would do little to change the status quo. In fact, decriminalization is like admitting that weed should be legal but being to much of a pussy to advocate for it. How can you say smoking weed is clearly not a criminal offense, and yet go out and arrest people for buying and growing the marijuana that it has just been considered to be not criminal to use?
2. Legalizing weed won't save the economy. Don't get me wrong, we should 100% do it and it would give some minor help, but even the most generous estimates of money saved both in law enforcement and taxation would be under 100 billion. That's a lot of money and once again would be good and should be done, but right now we are talking about tens of trillions of dollars. While we need to cut all the fat and this would be a good chunk, saying that legalizing drugs or even simply weed wouldn't cause much if any effect to the economy.
3. As far as Obama...of course what else would you expect? I didn't vote for Obama because I already knew that this would happen. The argument that he is the lesser of two evils is one of the most disgusting thing I have ever heard, despite the fact that it was true. Ron Paul was the only merited candidate that ran for president, but of course the ignorance of the american people allowed him to be painted as a nutjob by almost every major media outlet. I will concede that Obama didn't lie with regards to legalization, it is simply that he no longer has to pander, or atleast for right now. As far as I'm concerned, until a candidate stands up and acknowledges that our monetary system and the federal reserve are the key problems economically for America, then I really can't respect anything they say. Our monetary system is the main underlying factor in almost every single major debate and interconnected with basically every issue. As far as I'm concerned however, even if at the end of the day weed, or hell all drugs, were legalized, there are extremely significantly more devastating problems that will completely destroy this country.
1. Decriminalization is complete bullshit plain and simple. I understand the logic of it being a good first step to legalization, but I find it completely idiotic to argue in support of decriminalization. First off all of the issues associated with prohibition will still be prevalent, besides money spent on the CJS. The black market will still exist, and since growing will still be a felony, prohibition would still be in full force on the supply side. Second, I simply cannot understand how to argue for decriminalization and that prohibition causes x, y, and z when decriminalization would do little to change the status quo. In fact, decriminalization is like admitting that weed should be legal but being to much of a pussy to advocate for it. How can you say smoking weed is clearly not a criminal offense, and yet go out and arrest people for buying and growing the marijuana that it has just been considered to be not criminal to use?
2. Legalizing weed won't save the economy. Don't get me wrong, we should 100% do it and it would give some minor help, but even the most generous estimates of money saved both in law enforcement and taxation would be under 100 billion. That's a lot of money and once again would be good and should be done, but right now we are talking about tens of trillions of dollars. While we need to cut all the fat and this would be a good chunk, saying that legalizing drugs or even simply weed wouldn't cause much if any effect to the economy.
3. As far as Obama...of course what else would you expect? I didn't vote for Obama because I already knew that this would happen. The argument that he is the lesser of two evils is one of the most disgusting thing I have ever heard, despite the fact that it was true. Ron Paul was the only merited candidate that ran for president, but of course the ignorance of the american people allowed him to be painted as a nutjob by almost every major media outlet. I will concede that Obama didn't lie with regards to legalization, it is simply that he no longer has to pander, or atleast for right now. As far as I'm concerned, until a candidate stands up and acknowledges that our monetary system and the federal reserve are the key problems economically for America, then I really can't respect anything they say. Our monetary system is the main underlying factor in almost every single major debate and interconnected with basically every issue. As far as I'm concerned however, even if at the end of the day weed, or hell all drugs, were legalized, there are extremely significantly more devastating problems that will completely destroy this country.
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Did anyone see this coming, besides me?
This is all about the heroin people, and the fact that we're letting the terrorists win.
And you all go and put someone in office who is going to do what for you? Continue this?
Great. Let someone else fix your mess...
Meaning, you're letting the terrorists win so your kids do drugs.
The war on drugs is the dumbest fuck thing EVER.
Even for people who don't even LIKE ANY KIND of drug.
What the hell is wrong with Obama? Why doesn't somebody hang that =====?
LOL DONT WANNA BE RACIST...
Thank you.
This is why people cannot be trusted to vote for themselves.
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airforlife
Bluelighter
What a thread full of whining babies...
Like an earlier poster said, Obama can't just legalize marijuana right away, months of being elected to office. Why would he unnecessarily polarize the country when he is trying to bring the country together and work through the current troubles we are in.
I am sorry but legalizing pot is the last of his concerns, you are all worried about getting blazed while he wants to fix the economy, get national healthcare started, fix the situation in Iraq, and focus on energy independence. To do that he has to enlist the support of Republicans, who would fight him tooth and nail full stop if he even tried to legalize any drug.
For now, be thankful that you don't have a conservative as your president, someone who, while won't be making many changes in drug policy, hopefully won't make things more strict against drug users.
And, like I said before, once he gets reelected, then expect some change with regard to drug policy.
Like an earlier poster said, Obama can't just legalize marijuana right away, months of being elected to office. Why would he unnecessarily polarize the country when he is trying to bring the country together and work through the current troubles we are in.
I am sorry but legalizing pot is the last of his concerns, you are all worried about getting blazed while he wants to fix the economy, get national healthcare started, fix the situation in Iraq, and focus on energy independence. To do that he has to enlist the support of Republicans, who would fight him tooth and nail full stop if he even tried to legalize any drug.
For now, be thankful that you don't have a conservative as your president, someone who, while won't be making many changes in drug policy, hopefully won't make things more strict against drug users.
And, like I said before, once he gets reelected, then expect some change with regard to drug policy.
anarquista420
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This was a pretty interesting read, thanks for that.
yea well, 1984 is a few years late but we will get there one step at a time, just you wait and see boys and girls. My opinion would be that we should cut the guy a little slack, he may be another slimefuck prohibitionist pig like all the rest, but he Is a politition, its all according to plan. Plus we all know he secretly wants to deregulate mj, i think he is just biding his time, or maby giving in to pressure, but either way i dont really blame him for playing the game, outdated though the rules may be.
Anyways, interesting article and HAPPY 420 EVERYBODY!!!!
yea well, 1984 is a few years late but we will get there one step at a time, just you wait and see boys and girls. My opinion would be that we should cut the guy a little slack, he may be another slimefuck prohibitionist pig like all the rest, but he Is a politition, its all according to plan. Plus we all know he secretly wants to deregulate mj, i think he is just biding his time, or maby giving in to pressure, but either way i dont really blame him for playing the game, outdated though the rules may be.
Anyways, interesting article and HAPPY 420 EVERYBODY!!!!
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Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Are we the only 2 people on bluelight who voted for the right candidate?
He sure as hell doesn't have to ignore the issue as if it isn't pertinent.
People aren't whining, they're violently angry. They're ready to drag people in the middle of the streets and slaughter them.
That isn't whining; people are out for blood.
Legalizing drugs would help the economy tremendously, national healthcare is a shit idea and no one deserves such a thing, you don't "fix" the situation in Iraq. If you wanted to do that, you'd pull every single last troop out immediately.
And people aren't worried about getting blazed you dumb fuck. They're worried about the future of their country they live in. People have a right to be upset at this kind of shit.
Additionally, don't blame me, I know I didn't vote for some dumb ass like Obama.
No, we all don't "secretly" know this.
Politicians don't need to play mind games, they need to SPEAK ALOUD WHAT THEY BELIEVE.
Barr would have legalized marijuana, and if you're in this thread complaining, and you voted for Obama, I'm sorry but you're part of the problem, not the solution, and you don't deserve your right to vote and then complain because you don't know how to access political issues for your own life and well being.
Let someone else do your thinking for you if you thought some shit head like Obama was going to legalize weed...because that's not what he was saying before election day.
anarquista420
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i voted barr dude, but thanks for that.... why so worked up over polotics? This is anarchy after all so act accordingly; god gave you choice and obama cant take it away. ive been hassled, and locked up, and made to look like a scumbag, but my beliefs havent changed and neither have my actions for that matter, i just put it behind me. hate dosent help so drop acid, not bombs, or venom laced internet rants, whatever you happen to be into.
Happy 420 cap'n; peace, love, and anarchy : )
Happy 420 cap'n; peace, love, and anarchy : )
mk-ultra
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Excuse me, but there isn't a single republican who's for legalization in congress. As far as I know the only voice for legalization that has any political presence is coming from San Francisco.
Find me a republican assembly man that wants to introduce a "pro recreational" bill similar to "The Marijuana Control, regulation and education act (AB 390)", and I'll show you a republican who's not holding ANY position in local, state, or fed govt.
I'm not saying the bill introduced in SF will pass either. Anyone who's ever lived in SF knows it has a big asian and hispanic population who often breaks ties with the democrat party when it comes to issues like gay marriage and pro legalization. But at least ANY real legislation motion to legalize it's a real move in the right direction.
Also Ron paul has jumped the shark the same way Ralph Nader has. No one takes them seriously anymore.. I don't know why people put these people on pedestals when the real change will come from local communities, and ultimately the states.
airforlife
Bluelighter
You are an idiot, plain and simple.
I don't know one person (maybe besides you) who is ready to go out on the street and shed blood because of this. Drug legalization is not even close to as polarizing as abortion, or gay marriage, so please kindly shut the hell up.
Legalizing drugs would give the government about 70 billion dollars, give or take, once it's implemented (which would take a considerable amount of time). We just signed a stimulus bill for over 700 billion dollars. The AIG bailout ALONE is 182 billion dollars. So please, before you say "IT WILL Fix the EconOmy OMGZZZ", learn a thing or two about the U.S. economy. One small industry is not going to get us out of this economic mess.
And whether or not it is actually a good idea, Republicans would NOT go for it, neither would Democrats. You are all actually mad at Obama for not introducing legislation that wouldn't even be passed in the House ? (most Democrats wouldn't even vote for legalization). You are insane. That would make Obama look like an idiot right now, and he needs all the help he can get to change the direction of his country.
Jesus christ, it's only been a few months since he's been elected, let him take care of the important stuff first. Yes, legalization of drugs is NOT as important as healthcare, the war in Iraq, and the economy. Grow the fuck up.
foodisgood
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mk-ultra: Ron Paul is the only Republican Congressman to my knowledge that supports full legalization.
Captain.Heroin: No you didn't vote for the right guy. Barr was bullshit plain and simple.
airforlife: You are completely correct when you say that Legalization is currently not one of the most relevant issues we are facing. Unfortunately, Obama will not fix the economy, he will not make the Iraq situation better, and national Healthcare is Unconstitutional to say the least.
Captain.Heroin: No you didn't vote for the right guy. Barr was bullshit plain and simple.
airforlife: You are completely correct when you say that Legalization is currently not one of the most relevant issues we are facing. Unfortunately, Obama will not fix the economy, he will not make the Iraq situation better, and national Healthcare is Unconstitutional to say the least.
Lady Codone
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Just more political bullshit. Say anything to get into office, then fuck the People up the ass.
Of course, nobody was trying to hear anything relating to Obama if it wasn't the typical media worship during election season. Just try getting people to engage in a discussion of the North American Union, global government, the military-industrial complex, the orchestrated economic "collapse" or anything else of any meaning while they're swept up in campaign propaganda and see where it gets you. For some reason, people forego common sense to get caught up in the rhetoric of "Republican vs. Democrat" every fourth November, and it blows my mind every time. Anyone who can't see that there's something fundamentally wrong with the way candidates are "chosen" (seemingly out of thin air), how the 2-party system shits on the rights of so many people, the way electronic voting is accepted as accurate and other facades deserves what they get--it's just unfortunate for the rest of us.
This time around, they didn't even have to TRY. He didn't have to promise anything more substantial than "Change" for people to fawn over him like sheep looking for a shepherd . The only difference I'm seeing between the Obamas and the Bushes is that Barack is better at making public appearances, is younger and more "hip", and is a better public speaker. Oh, and he's Black. He, like other democrats, claims to take a different position on the "issues" than the republicans, but continues the policies that benefit the same oligarchy of bankers and Wallstreet tycoons as any other politician, republican or democrat.
And, no, I didn't vote for Bob Barr.
Of course, nobody was trying to hear anything relating to Obama if it wasn't the typical media worship during election season. Just try getting people to engage in a discussion of the North American Union, global government, the military-industrial complex, the orchestrated economic "collapse" or anything else of any meaning while they're swept up in campaign propaganda and see where it gets you. For some reason, people forego common sense to get caught up in the rhetoric of "Republican vs. Democrat" every fourth November, and it blows my mind every time. Anyone who can't see that there's something fundamentally wrong with the way candidates are "chosen" (seemingly out of thin air), how the 2-party system shits on the rights of so many people, the way electronic voting is accepted as accurate and other facades deserves what they get--it's just unfortunate for the rest of us.
This time around, they didn't even have to TRY. He didn't have to promise anything more substantial than "Change" for people to fawn over him like sheep looking for a shepherd . The only difference I'm seeing between the Obamas and the Bushes is that Barack is better at making public appearances, is younger and more "hip", and is a better public speaker. Oh, and he's Black. He, like other democrats, claims to take a different position on the "issues" than the republicans, but continues the policies that benefit the same oligarchy of bankers and Wallstreet tycoons as any other politician, republican or democrat.
And, no, I didn't vote for Bob Barr.
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spacefacethebassace
Bluelighter
No, the government would save 70 billion dollars, the tax revenue from drug sales is not factored into that number. Who knows how much money that would be.
There are several states that have been discussing legalization based on the economic argument, Texas, for example would save 4 billion dollars a year by legalizing marijuana, and with such a huge border with Mexico, my my that would fuck shit up in D.C.
airforlife
Bluelighter
I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I know the legalization and taxing of drugs as well as the new industry would benefit America, slightly at the moment. The US GDP per year is about 14 trillion, so while drugs may be something to look at in the future its not going to be the savior of the economy. Plus, it would take time to develop the industry.