NY man busted selling fentanyl as heroin

I question if it was actually pure "fent" or not. there is no way this 20yr old dealer knew how to do that or would be able to get it and do it.
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I know individuals who've ordered pure fentanyl off deep net markets, so it's definitely inside the realm of possibility.

But as others have said, if it was truly pure, there would likely be a ton of OD's connected to the dealer, unless he was busted before he had a chance to sell any of it. More likely it was fentanyl adulterated with an inactive cut (which is also available on DNM's), although even assuming the fentanyl is evenly distributed between the cut that's still a dangerous thing to be putting out on the street, since the margin of safety for fentanyl is quite a bit lower than it is for heroin, and the short half life encourages frequent redosing.
 
Yea fent is all over the deep web. Pure and cut with like mannitol versions.

Don't really enjoy fent mixed in dope...I'd like to try (knowi gly) dope cut with acetylfent. May have had it before but who knows. But if anyone in bmore gets raw dope that's all white, be careful...used to be it was always off colour, like yellowish to tan or grey beige.
 
the dope around the Boston area is heavy fent; I go to see my Suboxone Dr. and have him test me for the fent since he knows its what everything has been laced w/ around here; it comes back heavy fent along w/ the typical dope. not only that, but as I mentioned before, a usual G of dope will give me 2-3 shots at best; even killer dope, I had a high tolerance at one point. the fent laced dope, which is white as a MOFO around here and it looks like skim milk once you put it in that spoon, a gram will get me 6-7 shots and ill be feeling "good" all day.

what sucks is once you get that fent laced dope and then you go back to the original, its not fucking easy, man. you feel NOTHING when shooting original after going on a fent run for a few weeks.
 
curious2015 said:
How can you tell if you are being sold straight fentanyl or can you?
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If it's unadulterated, chances are it will kill you more or less instantly. When I was injecting adulterated fentanyl, the powder I was using was 1.7% pure (meaning each gram contained only 17mg of fentanyl), and each 100mg shot of the adulterated fentanyl (which would have contained roughly 1.7mg of fentanyl) was stronger than a 100mg shot of morphine or oxy.

If it's sufficiently cut that it doesn't kill you, the easiest marker is the duration - fentanyl lasts a fraction of the length that heroin does. Qualitatively, it's also a lot less euphoric -there's not much of the warm fuzzy glow you get from heroin or the other more enjoyable opiates. It's also very sedating.
 
I mean can you tell the difference between heroin and fentanyl by just looking at it? Someone I know recently died and autopsy showed only fentanyl in his system. 5.5ng/ml is what the report said was found of fentanyl in his system. I just want to know if he knew what he was putting into his body?
 
Absolutely no way to tell without doing it or using lab equip. The latter usually reports in less deaths. Just bc a shot looks a lil milky it could be fent, or it could be some kind d of cut that just turns that color. Always do a tester bc once you depress that plunger its too late unless you have someone Round with narcan
 
curious2015 said:
I mean can you tell the difference between heroin and fentanyl by just looking at it? Someone I know recently died and autopsy showed only fentanyl in his system. 5.5ng/ml is what the report said was found of fentanyl in his system. I just want to know if he knew what he was putting into his body?
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Depends on if he wanted to kill himself or not. If he didn't then it was most likely unintentional.

The average person has 5 liters or so of blood, so he had 5.5mg/liter (* 5) = 27.5mg/his body weight (say 100kg) = .275mg/kg, or well above the LD50 of 0.03 milligrams per kilogram in monkeys.
 
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Keif' Richards said:
I have a hard time believing it was "100%" pure. It sounds like typical media/police conjecture to make a story more interesting or a suspect more evil.
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100% or not, giving people a pharmacological substance with such a strong potency as if it where something else is horrible. There could easily be hotspots strong enough to kill. Even if people knew it was fentanyl it is still horribly irresponsible to be trafficking such a substance without proper education and safeguards. A child (or adult) only needs to ingest such a small amount before facing very serious consequences. People (without accredited training) dealing with this stuff in any form that isn't bound up chemically are quite simply selfish assholes.
 
Shimmer.Fade said:
100% or not, giving people a pharmacological substance with such a strong potency as if it where something else is horrible. There could easily be hotspots strong enough to kill. Even if people knew it was fentanyl it is still horribly irresponsible to be trafficking such a substance without proper education and safeguards. A child (or adult) only needs to ingest such a small amount before facing very serious consequences. People (without accredited training) dealing with this stuff in any form that isn't bound up chemically are quite simply selfish assholes.
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Exactly so .....
 
Shimmer.Fade said:
100% or not, giving people a pharmacological substance with such a strong potency as if it where something else is horrible. There could easily be hotspots strong enough to kill. Even if people knew it was fentanyl it is still horribly irresponsible to be trafficking such a substance without proper education and safeguards. A child (or adult) only needs to ingest such a small amount before facing very serious consequences. People (without accredited training) dealing with this stuff in any form that isn't bound up chemically are quite simply selfish assholes.
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I agree w/ this but once you get that fent its hard to go back to regular brown! fent been around Boston for the past year, and its EVERYWHERE! youre almost more luckily to get fent than you are regular dope (or at least my area, which is just north of Boston - East Boston, Revere, Lynn and Chelsea - where all my dope comes from).

its always white as a ghost and once it hits that water its just like skim milk, as I said before. I had my suboxone Dr. test for it because I knew its what I was taking and I was almost coming back positive for fent. pretty sure I may have said it right in this post but the difference between regular dope and fent dope is night and day; regular dope I get 2-3 shots out of gram. the fent/dope I can legit get 6-7 shots from a G and it lasts ALL DAY LONG!

of course we all have to be careful, we are shooting drugs into our veins, so yes, its very dangerous, but the game we play is dangerous in general. some people say they would rather have regular dope than fent laced dope; well, not sure why, maybe they never tried that fent laced dope, but boy do I love that shit 10X's more than than regular dope.
 
the fent/dope I can legit get 6-7 shots from a G and it lasts ALL DAY LONG!
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If it lasts longer than heroin then it's not fentanyl. Maybe one of the analogues, but plain fent lasts an hour or so when shot up.
 
Crankinit said:
If it lasts longer than heroin then it's not fentanyl. Maybe one of the analogues, but plain fent lasts an hour or so when shot up.
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its fentanyl; I get drug tested weekly, just for the fent, and it comes up weekly.

what do you mean if it lasts longer!? its much stronger, so I get way more shots off; so of course its going to last longer.

when I say "lasts all day" I am talking about the shots that I get; rather than the 1-3 shots which I can do in a half day; I will take 6-7 shots over the course of the day which is a shot every few hours.

so yea, its back to what I said.. its fentanyl!
 
Ah, that makes sense if the higher potency means you're able to stretch your supply further, I thought you meant the high you were getting from each shot lasted longer.
 
Your arms must have been like pin cushins lol

Met a kid in rehab who was a big dilly injector and he was shooting like ten times a day. Never seen tracks like that haha.
 
I dont have track "marks" I have track bubbles, man. shooting coke will leave some serious marks but the dope just fucked up my veins and left bumps/lumps/bruises everywhere. luckily I am tattooed to the point where you really cant see shit but when feeling my arms you feel all types of weird shit. got knows how many times I missed veins along the way but still shot; when I was a rookie shooter I still shot daily. I taught myself to shoot about 6 or 7 years ago; I was always sniffing before that but just couldnt afford to sniff anymore; I'd blow through a fucking gram in one line. it was disgusting what was going on so finally I had to hit the needle based on money alone.
 
People misrepresenting drugs. Owe, I really want to feel as if persuading these people with my fist is my best option! Then I realize that mentality is how America achieved an enormous overdose rate and the most people in prison on the planet. I am going to say the solution should involve other options.

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