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NY dope thread because why not

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^^fuck i would still try tho

you bet your ass if i ever make it to NYC i would certainly wanna try n cold cop something id even take the bus/train/subway/whatever to NJ if need be. there is something about open air markets that are very intruiging to me
 
i think the general consensus on that would be....you'd be better off just going to phillie....New York has more of a romantic reputation because it's fucking New York City, but even if there is still open air there, if you didn't know exactly where it was and you were just looking randomly, driving around Brooklyn, you'd probably just get frustrated and give up!
 
Im not gonna say theres a "better" place to get dope since every east coast ghetto runs the same gamut of risks but I would be willing to bet that about the same amount of people are involved in the drug game (just straight numbers, not per thousand) in Philly as in NY but with like 1/6th the population.

A lot of the true "open air" trade is for subs though. People just go "sup sup sup" when they walk by you and if you are going to the ghetto just to get subs then they know youll fuck with dope most likely so it could spin off into a I know a guy who knows a guy deal.

another one is people just stand around and yell "works works works" all day trying to sell needles even though you can buy them otc in PA. I never understood why anyone would go to those guys except to find their heroin connect so maybe there is ulterior motives there.

As long as you buy something a lot of them keep it business, and there is a lot of dealers so thats probably why. And they are always ten steps ahead of the cops, most guys get snitched out not busted for the actual process you know?

I dont feel like talking about kt really any more in detail, id have to get too specific
 
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^^ wait wait wait

you are claiming that there are as many people involved in the drug game in philly as there are in NYC

NYC a city of 8,000,000+, has only as many people in the drug game as philly a city of just over 1,000,000 (not sure if these numbers are city limits or metro area i just did a quick google)

fat chance,

i might by the as many people per one thousand involved in the drug game but just straight numbers to numbers i think you have to be wrong, this isnt a statistic that we will ever be able to tell or figure out but i think shere logic just dictates that it is unlikely
 
And yeah, Shimazu is just going on his gut and personal experience sayin that about philly....

New York, not mention the outlying cities and towns, is a vast areas with fucking millions of fucking people! Not even counting New Jersey!.....So, nobody can really actually comprehend exactly what the fuck is going on with the dope game, or anything else for that matter!

Philly aint exactly a fuckin small town either! And, the dope scence there is much more "concentrated" than NYC, and it's always been fucking legendary for it's dope! It's practically up there with fuckin Cheese-steaks!

whether there's the same number of dope dealers in Philly as in NYC is hard to prove or disprove, but there's places in Philly that if you had unlimited cash you could walk around certain areas and cold-cop all day....

Like Shim said, it's not really cold-coppin like people are all obviously sittin there slinging dope, but it's extremely available with minimum bullshit involved....and plenty of dope-fiends will tell ya that Philly is the best place in the US for heroin, but who really knows, its peoples opinions and personal observations/experiences....

The point I was making was that, if you wanna get some cheap dope quick and easy for a good price and decent quality, And you dont know anybody, Philly is in the top 5 all day!.....Chicago sounds pretty fuckin crazy too.....
 
from an outsider aussies' view who's read plenty of anecdotes of cold coppin' and "the scene" between NYC/Jersey vs Philly, it seems Philly has it goin' on a bit better and in a safer manner. more condensed area vs vast would make the competition that much more tight and likely professional to get business over the rival on the corner across and thus likely even easier to score than from some random bum in NYC where, it seems most likely, you'll be ripped. a lot more likely than Philly, anyway.

this is just from an outsider in australia who's only observation is from BL accounts and other material on the web, who's never had to cold cop nor has any experience because of getting my dope legally from a doctor, so take it for nothing really.
 
I dont have any statistics to back it up obviously, Im just saying a lot of people live in NYC for business or just the fact its NYC.

Not too many people are like "oh lets up and move to North Philly"

like idk its hard to explain and Im not trying to start a competition because you cant prove anything in the end really but I still stand by what I say. Even if NYC did have a few more hundred dealers or so, per thousand it wouldnt even be close.

And Blues some of the areas are literally 5 mins off 95 like you can get off one exit, do your thang, and be back on 95 within an hour with a stamp or mutliple stamps if you like to play the field.

Ive never copped in Jers either but their state has a tendency to talk things up tbh so idk how bad Ptown and Newark are. I know they are bad, but I guess what im tryin to say is they are more similiar in the end then different.

Also, Camden and Philly are more or less right next to each other you just gotta cross the Delaware River
 
HighonLife said:
^^fuck i would still try tho

you bet your ass if i ever make it to NYC i would certainly wanna try n cold cop something id even take the bus/train/subway/whatever to NJ if need be. there is something about open air markets that are very intruiging to me
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I don't think I would ever want to. I much prefer the South's trap houses.
 
When I got clean and moved to North Florida, I never touched anything, a few years later I went back and there was open-air crack or as close to open air as it gets....If you can just run in a house and buy dope it's essentially the same thing, I guess all open air means is that there's somebody on the street with drugs on them ready to sell.....you couldn't get me to stand on the street and sell drugs for 100 dollars an hour! Fuck that!

It's really the most sketchy thing you could possibly think of, it's like "I'm gonna stand here in the worst street in the area on the worst part of the street with a bunch of heroin and sell it to whoever the fuck walks up that I don't get "bad vibes" from! Sounds like a plan!

I think there used to just be so much of it, it was too much of a cluster-fuck to even figure out who was doing what, but eventually the police figured out how to effectively deal with it, they busted tons of people and it's probably hard to get anybody to do it anymore....I gotta hand it to the cops on that one..
 
^^yea crack is open air down n S Dallas n lots of places down south. so i guess that counts but i dont count it cuz ive never used care n dont really care bout it

i dont consider running into a house n coming out open air tho personally, if that is considered open air by most then yea i guess trap houses are open air

but its not like just walkin up to someone n not gettin bad vibes, i dunno bout most places but i had to have someone 'introduce' me to the trap house n then i was welcome down there whether the other dude was there or not, but i picked him up to come with me damn near all of the time cuz he grew up down there n was good friends/aquintances with everyone down there, and i do mean everyone, we would pull up to a stop sign n have 3 crack heads homeless dudes shout out, "hey, thats tip, yo tip you need anything?" it blew my mind how in the highly populated inner city this dude was constantly runnin into people, it was like he was the dope mayor. <- i know he was just another user n wasnt anyone special in the scene down there but im just sayin to me it was like he was the mayor, but then again he was like 40 so i guess thats what happens when you've been in the game doin the same shit for 20+years
 
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Blues if someone is actually holding the stuff on them when they offer it to you they arent gonna be selling for long anyway
 
Yeah, if I never bought shit off you before and you want me to give you money on the promise that Joe Schmoe across the street is gonna give me dope, no way....It really doesn't offer you that much protection legally other than they can't prove without a doubt that the wad of money is connected to the drugs, so you don't lose the money, if it gets to the point that the police are actively trying to bust you, you're pretty much fucked no matter what....

that's where stamp bags differ a little from sandwich corners, with crack they usually keep it in there mouth and just spit out however many you need and take your money, when you're dealing with stamp bags, somebody else will go grab whatever you bought from a stash spot after you hand the money the the first guy, but if I have no idea who the fuck you are, no way in hell am I giving money up until the other guy is standing there handing me the drugs at the exact same time!
 
sometimes they will ask you to do a bag inside or something

it's not the ideal situation for sure though
 
I guess that whole signal the other guy shit after you have the money is the old school way, because it's not as obvious as handing the guy money and having him fish around for your drugs and hand them too you, at least thats the theory....but IMO, it looks even more shady to hand one guy money walk across the street over to some other guy, grab something from him and then walk back to your car with stamp bags, which is terrifying because you can't get rid of the fucking things!

for me, I don't even care if I get handed drugs on the street.....the way it is now in a lot of places, like you said...you see somebody on the street talk to him for a minute and he says ,"Lets take a walk" and then you follow him into a house or down an alley or whatever, but that freaks me the fuck out too!!

I've had people walk me to a house to buy directly off the dealer, have the guy open the door ask me what I need, I tell him hand him the money and he slams the door in my face....Some of these assholes will go through a twenty minute scripted routine to rip you off for 10 dollars!!

It's annoying, I could write about it all day but it's pointless....

a lot of phone connects have made me do things that TO ME make it 10x more obvious that there's a drug deal going on! But they somehow think they're throwing off the police or whatever...it's funny....and that's pretty much all drug dealers from weed to heroin or anything....
 
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Brooklyn dope=fucking bad ass.
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Hmmm, Kinda hard to believe since I don't do Dope but I am from that Area. Most of the drugs in Brooklyn or NYC over all have terrible quality. Really struck me when you said Brooklyn has the best dope. I would put my money on NJ having the best dope from what I hear.
 
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