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NY - can't do MDMA on advise of the forum...please choose me another drug!

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On another thread, we've discussed I need a big break from MDMA. I am in agreement.

I have a club night on NY now...my favourite people are going and I am driving (although I may park car up for the night when I get to the venue).

I have access to all drugs of high quality.

So here are my thoughts :

CB-2 - trippy, I've been told close to MDMA. What concerns me with this is too little = nothing. Too much is tripping your balls off. Will I get bad-LSD trip with too much? I can obtain 18mg capsules from solid vendor.

Cocaine - I have never done coke. I have an addictive personality. I am somewhat concerned. But more importantly, I am concerned about my heart and the damage it might do as I am pushing 40. Again, I can get coke that tests as 'very strong/pure' on the coke test. This appeals to me as I expect once it has worn off, I will be able to drive.

Speed - I haven't done speed since 1994. After that terrible comedown from 1/3 gram of very pure speed, I swore never again. I am also concerned about my heart. I have benzos though to comedown on. It does appeal to me because I know it's superb for dancing on and I can drive prob better than being straight.

Ketamine - it looks good, I have access to top of the range Ket. But I don't want to be a total mess. It looks more like a drug for sitting in looking smacked up.

Mephedrone - I've heard this is a good MDMA alternative. But it's the amphet family and again concerned about my heart.

Advice please!
 
CB-2...? You mean 2C-B?

lol who told you that too little of that = nothing? That's certainly not true, just the opposite is in fact. 2C-B is actually a GREAT drug to take in low doses, it will add a bit of a psychedelic effect and body high without getting you fucked off your feet... or you can take a whole dose and get to a great high.

2C-B isn't really that trippy of a psychedelic AT ALL, it's a really light hearted and easy going psych. I would take that for your night out for sure.


Fuck coke, fuck speed. Don't even consider them... ket is good for some people, but that shit will have you FUCKED UP in the club. Mephedrone has a pretty similar action to MDMA and amphetamine, so it's not really safe to use on a break.




"What should I take?" threads are generally discouraged on Bluelight, but since you want to know what would be the safest to take on your MDMA break, it might be allowed.
 
2c-b! Yeah that's what I meant. Can you advise me on dose? Also will I feel like dancing? Duration?

Also will I be able to drive post? I guess not...
 
If you haven't done it before than 15-20mg should be fine, depending on how high you want to be. 15 would be a more mild experience and 20+mg is going to be a pretty full out experience.

If you have 18mg I'd say that would be just about the perfect dose. 2C-B is a pretty uplifting and energetic psychedelic, so yeah it's likely that you'll be dancing.. it's pretty damn similar to MDMA from what most people say


It should last like 4-5 hours, but I wouldn't be driving until like 8 hours after. Better safe than dead, right?


There will be plenty of taxis in New York if you need to get home anyways haha
 
please don't drive home after doing psychedelics or recreational doses of stimulants. not in nyc, not anywhere. there's even less need for it in nyc as the train runs all night. and, cabs are cheap there, too.
 
Yeah I'm thanks for the advice! I am thinking about just taking the car to the club and parking it up IF I do some shit. I do know we'll be at the club late, so I'll prob just not bother doing drugs as it'll shut early and it'll take 1 hour to come up. It pains me to go out with the group sometimes, we're doing midnight in a bar...then I gotta do 2 x drives of 7 miles. We'll be lucky to hit the club for 1am. And they shut like 3-4am. I have a feeling I will be sober but I am going to source 2c-b anyway and keep it handy.
 
Coke sucks. Seriously... not worth your time, especially if you're the kind of person that loves E. It's easy to get addicted to, the high doesn't last long, and it's really not as fun or amazing as people say it is. After a few tries I decided it wasn't worth my time, plus I didn't like the way I always wanted more afterward... freaked me out too much and I saw how easy it was to get hooked. Avoid it.
 
2-CB for sure!

SCREW SPEED! Worst comedown ever & the worst part is say byebye to erection during it lol
 
I've used a lot of E in my lifetime and am on a long break. I'm also somewhat experienced with mushrooms and LSD, and if I were in your shoes I would definitely go for the 2C-B. To be fair, I've never used it but from a lot of research and drug experiences I've read about it seems like a really fun experience that is a lot like MDMA with a trippy edge to it. It sounds like a milder psychedelic that could be very dance and club friendly.

The only thing that has kept me from jumping into 2C-B is that I'm quite terrified of HPPD, and from what I've read it seems that 2C-B can come with an increased risk of HPPD.
 
Ketamine is too over-powering. I had not tried it in years, and just recently I got some legit K and jeesus. I can't even explain how I felt, basically it just fucks you up. 2-cb would probably be your best option. You could always just stick to alcohol, but I guess that is too mainstream :P
 
pokepoke420 said:
Ketamine is too over-powering. I had not tried it in years, and just recently I got some legit K and jeesus. I can't even explain how I felt, basically it just fucks you up. 2-cb would probably be your best option. You could always just stick to alcohol, but I guess that is too mainstream :P
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Is it really that over powering? I have a pretty intense NYE weekend (more like 5-6 days) and I only plan on rolling on one of them. What appeals most to me is that you can always redose and up your dosage if said high is underachieved.
 
vancbc said:
The only thing that has kept me from jumping into 2C-B is that I'm quite terrified of HPPD, and from what I've read it seems that 2C-B can come with an increased risk of HPPD.
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HPPD - is that permanent?

Again thanks to everyone for the feedback, keep it coming. People on this forum are the *best* :)
 
2c-b with ketamine bumps throughout = heaven.

First time I would dose very low on each. Maybe 10mg 2cb and 20mg bumps of k PRN.

Have fun!

Oh - and if you're planning on driving on psychedelics - don't. Speed wouldn't be a problem but pscyhs/driving big no no.
 
mark881 said:
Ketamine - it looks good, I have access to top of the range Ket. But I don't want to be a total mess. It looks more like a drug for sitting in looking smacked up.

Mephedrone - I've heard this is a good MDMA alternative. But it's the amphet family and again concerned about my heart.

Advice please!
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Wouldn't surprise me if Meph is worse on your heart mate.

Go for the ketamine, it's really good for getting into the music and giving you a nice bit of euphoria. Do small bumps of it off a key and test out doses beforehand in your own home so you know how much to do. As far as I know ketamine doesn't put any strain on the heart, also it wears off completely after about an hour and you can drive home.

Wouldn't do 2C-B at a rave without previous experience, its effects vary a lot with different doses. I did it at a dnb night in fabric and it made me just want to chat to people in the smoking area wasn't really up for dancing at all (which is unlike me).

I was also disappointed with 2C-B at a low dose but probably just because I expected a bit more. My preference would be bumps of ket. Ketamine and bass is an awesome combination.
 
Thou said:
2c-b with ketamine bumps throughout = heaven.
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Mmmm. That sounds interesting. Do you have a write up on that experience? ;)

@OP

2c-b is pretty novelty experience. I've read that some people compare it to MDMA/MDA, but personally have never found that connection.

If by speed you are referring to a racemic mixture of street-amphetamine a-la 'amphetamine paste', I would honestly have to recommend this, depending on quality. I know the quality of street-amphetamine in the United States in pretty low, but there is plethora of really good Euro-speed. So just be careful.

@ the poster who said if he uses speed to kiss his erection goodbye... You can combat this with vasodilators such as low dose aspirin, L-Arginine, Vitamin B3 Niacin, and a ginger supplement.

Personally I find all phenthylamines to be vasoconstrictive to some degree. So taking any of those vasodilators would probably help regardless of whatever you take be it 2c-b, speed, or 4-MMC.

Just be careful OP, and don't drive if you are under the influence. Even on speed, it can be dangerous (especially at night).
 
mark881 said:
HPPD - is that permanent?

Again thanks to everyone for the feedback, keep it coming. People on this forum are the *best* :)
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I've tripped over 100 times in a year with no lasting HPPD, your mileage may vary obviously however.



I don't know why he said 2C-B will give an increased risk of HPPD though.. increased over what? Being sober?

The risk would be MUCH less than a heavy psychedelic with a lot of visuals like LSD or mushroooms
 
Folley said:
I don't know why he said 2C-B will give an increased risk of HPPD though.. increased over what? Being sober?
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Lol.

I like how you initially described 2c-b. Light hearted. That seems like the best description for it. Albeit a somewhat short-lived experience and a bit comical/novel, I could see 2c-b being great at a club night.

I just think regardless of what OP decides, he should find a sober driver.
 
Thanks guys. I'm going to order in some 2c-b and ketamine crystal of the highest quality.

Should I dump the car, I will

- drop 18mg of 2c-b. I have a group of friends with me, if for someone reason I trip right out they'll be there to look after me.
- if I feel a need a real buzz up, I'll bump some small bits of ketamine up my nose. Should I get some bullet/snorter thing that takes little shots?
 
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