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Nutmeg(17.5g first time)+IAP(40mg experienced)+2C-E(unknown- Experienced) - too much!

p-mo

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Ok guys this is my first trip report so take it easy.... I have also been ridiculously lazy- havent really logged on since I left to go to Fiji in January. This trip was only a month or so ago so still fairly fresh in my mind- feel free to ask questions and I'll do my best to answer them. Apart from the drugs listed I also consumed 350ml of vodka, a bottle of wine, 750mg L-tyrosine and a multi vit. I also cut up some weed stalks and smoked them during the trip (can u tell I was DESPERATE for some weed?)

Here are my notes from the trip:

9:30 ingested IAP + Nutmeg (already consumed 1/4 bottle of wine). Meal eaten about 45 mins earlier. Noted this is store bought ground nutmeg rather than self ground nuts. Placed in "00" Caps. IAP was ingested first so first alerts should be based on IAP.

10:05 Ingestion of Nutmeg complete. Takes quite a while to wash down 20 "00" Caps! Ingested a good ammount of water which should help with Hangover-ness. IAP is starting to kick in- feel a little tense. Ive got 2 litres of water, a bucket (in case of vomit), 20 cigs and 35cl of Vodka (with a litre or so of Coke). Finished other 1/4 of wine whilst writing. Starting to get the odd nutmeg-gy burps. Not actually too unpleasent. Good thing I love the taste of Nutmeg! Also meal beforehand was a curry so just feel like it was a spicy curry!!

11:30 Certainly no feeling of drowsiness. A fair bit of stimulation in fact. A very small ammount of colour changes/breathing although fairly minute and unnoticable (unless looking for it as I am!) A bit of a twinge towards further observation of everyday objects as is common with psychadelics. The buddah on my desk has been a focus of observation. Feels a little like coming up on a poorish pill. Although whilst writing this I have started feeling a few of the warm rushes which overpower me whilst on MDA/MDMA. Hoping that this experience starts to peak sometime soon. Thoughts drift towards the (extremly small and depleted) baggie of 2C-E I have in my drugs case. I'll wait another hour or so then maybe bump the experience with more IAP/2C-E. At the moment tho I'll try one of my Multi-Vits which is full of B-vits and Ginseng and have a cap of L-Tyrosine (750mg). Ooh just before sign off for this time I'll describe a small hallucination I just experienced when I focus on the screen some of this text that Im not focused on looks like its highlighted in a light brown/purple colour.

11:50 Ok a little more drowsiness now. Feels like more of a psychadelic experiece than an amphetemine based experience. Pupils dialated (which they wern't an hour ago). No more big waves of euphoria only a few minor twinges. Experince seems to take over when the mind wanders. Smoking more than usual. Think I'll prolly skip on upping the psychadelic experience for now. Alcohol tastes good. Starting to miss the stimulation of half an hour ago.

00:10 Still drowsy. Sensuality fantstic. My tounge longs to explore all the items around me- curved metal, wool, glass. Feelings of touch on body are fantastic. Sexulaity is a little unaffected though. Sexual images have an effect on basic desires but dont feel the desire (or able to) respond.

00:30 Psychadelic experience has slowed substantially, Sensuality decreased substantially. Feel like the best way to up this experience is a VERY small dose of 2-CE. Significant drowsiness now. If the 2-CE does not increase stimulation then I may add a small ammount of Ephedrine (to counter this damn drowsiness!). Currently about 1/3rd through my bottle of 35cl Vodka. Watching "The Sky At Night" (A serious Astronomy based program) which is involving. Will report back in 10 after I have snorted a VERY SMALL ammount of 2C-E.

00:47 Ouch ouch ouch! Maybe a bad idea! Around 2mg snorted has increased light perception and has swiched this back on to a psychadelic experience. Vision now decreasing into red persian carpet style visuals. Wow this compound has had a HUGE effect. Far more time space distortion than before. Blue/green visuals sweep over at the moment. Ability to type coherent interesting statments becoming less...

1:02 Definetly a +3. NOT what I was expecting! Still drowsy tho. Some averts have an emotional impact. Want the baseball to start! Woo-Hoo here it is! :D:D

1:11 Discoordinated. Impact of the 2C-e is starting to diminish a little. (Although this is BY FAR the most domement force in this combo). A lil nausious but just in my usual psychadelic sea-sick kinda way.

1:33 Starting to become a little more controllable now. Pat half hour has involved curling up in balls on my bed grapping sheets. Feel over stimulated.last cig took a lot out of me. Would LOVE a shower now if my parents werent around.

1:37 Although I havent tried to play since snorting the 2-CE this is the first time I feel able enough to actually save and quit the comp game I was playing! Lots of trails. In fact more trails than I have experienced on any substance so far. The Hallucinations that were RAGING an hour ago have receded into a gentle peter-pater. Trying to keep hyrdated by drinking water. Might throw some more booze in there soon tho to try and cut this stimulation!

2:05 well no need for the booze. Lots of psyacadelic sedation occuring. been curled up in sheets watching baseball. Physical stimulae has been tremendous although the room is warm I feel cold without touch. This 2Ce was a Baaad Idea- took this a lil too far I thinK!! still needs another hour or 2 to cool down tho.

2:30 havent been out of bed. nose and arms feel cold.yer half hour of cool needed! :D

2:45 baseball is feeling a little uninspirining. Shivering although Im sure my body temp is well up. Weird combo of stimulation and sedation. My bladder will need a little explaining to soon. Dont fancy making the trip downstairs to the bathroom but feel free to add more water and booze on top of it!! Must look like a total nutcase at the mo (well for the past 2 hours) currently hoodie up watching baseball in my rooom tryping frantically at a keyboard!

2:50 just been to the bathroom. Still shivering! way more observent and sure footed than I should be given the ammount of alcohol thats been consumed. Wow shivers turned into euphoric rushes....... These are VERY noticable tremors- whole body shakes becoming hugely euphoric tho in the last stages...... Errr Parkinsons anyone? First (noticed) burp in a while. Euphoric rushes I guess are similar to MDMA shivers more intense. Maybe like a VERY high dose MDMA experiment. very small ammounts of eyeball shivers...

3:04 Certainly different from an MDMA experiment! No way anywhere near the level of social interaction possible. Dont even feel able to buy a happy meal at the moment. But feel content, happy, stimulated ( a little over so) nice psychadelic aspect. Still havent actually turned off the baseball....

3:51 Started watching wear and loathing.... feel rather tooooooo interconnected with the characters. I mean even more than the 200000 times beforehand....

5:23 hmm hangover scene from F&L seem to drive home a huge reality. Back to normality. Just been to the bathroom. That vit pill id taken hours before had dyed my piss bright green. Felt clear enough to replace the toilet paper though. Been drinking heavily throught the film- the vodkas almost gone. Although Im GASPING FOR WEED!!

5:42 films over still drowsiessh but needing some stimualant in any direction at the moment. Prolly just going to finish the booze and watch Pulp fiction.

7:03 stimulation almost gone just kinda pleasent mellowness befitting the time of day.. gonna crash out with this drink and rest of pulp fiction- catch u in a few.

8:13 Pulp fiction was coool. Managed to scrape together a bongs worth out of assorted stems and empty baggies. Finished my booze. Still feel over stimulated for this time of the morning. Sunshine seems to dominate the screen. Jean imprints from 5 mins ago dominate my skin like tatoos. Nose still feels cold. Dogs- cold/wet nose sign of good health: coincidence?

lol ok this is where I signed off from writing. Very soon after finishing I texted my friend to see if he could sort me out with some valium for the next day- By this time I knew the day was a write off. I expected him to be asleep (it was only 8:30am or so) but amazingly he called me within 5 mins. It turned out he'd been up all night as well tripping on LSD. He was wanting to get out the house and do something so we agreed to meet up for a pint ort two a little later on. He was going to have a little snooze but realised that this would leave me unconsious for a huge period of time and prolly unwilling to move once I had closed my eyes. I instead decided to go and take a shower which was rather refreshing. However once I got out I realised I stil had 3 or 4 hours to kill so followed his lead and went for a nap.

I woke up at a little after 1pm ready to get out into the world and start drinking! Unfortunatly this is when it dawned on me that I had a chiropractors appointment on the other side of town in about an hour. This was a HUGE bummer as I'd usually drive but was in absolutly no fit state to do so. This meant getting a bus and walking a huge distance (both to get the bus and once I'd gotten off). I called my friend and explained the situation. Took a 25mg cap of ephedine and 200mg of caffine to wake myself up. Got to the chiro's about 20 mins late which meant I had to sit around for 45min or so till they could fit me in again. I felt the receptionists eyes watching me the whole time. Must have drank 5 or 6 cups of water from their fountain- dry throat was getting worse. The chiropractor asked me lots of odd questions when I was there and noticed that I looked a little worse for wear- I just said that I'd been out all night drinking.

After the chiros got to my friends house chilled and watched TV all afternoon/evening. Some friends managed to score me some weed which was MUCH appriciated although roilling was still a bit much of an effort. Caught a bus home and smoked some weed until the need for sleep gripped me and I passed out at a little after midnight.

Hope this has been eductaional for someone!! =D
 
Well it formed the base of the experience. It coloured the IAP expeience forming it into a more rounded epothatic experience. The two together created an MDMA/MDA "like" experience there were huge rushes that resembled MDMA. I would start shivering and these shivers would become HUGELY euphoric. I must have looked like a freak tho- sitting in front of the comp visibly shaking with a look of orgasm like euphoria. This however lasted for too long to create a peak as such. I think it also added to the sedation that I felt later on as well as some of the more physical effects (dry mouth in particular). I did not experience any "brain movies" as such though. I never really enjoyed shutting my eyes and looking at the CEV's. It WAS dreamy but only in a typical phenylthaliminy kinda way rather than a close the eyes and welcome to another universe.

(like the avatar too- have noticed that more than a couple of peeps have stolen mine since I started using it!)
 
Oh I should prolly mention that Ive been on Prozac (fluoxetine) for about 2 years. Im almost off it now so only taking about 2x20mg a week. Hadnt taken any for about a week and a half but must have coloured the experience to some degree.

Plus Im a hugely experienced tripper: 2C-E, 2C-I, 2C-T2, 2C-T21, IAP, MDMA/MDA/MDEA, LSD, 4-ho-dipt, Mushrooms, DXM, Diphenhydramine, ketamine, etc - please dont try at home!
 
p-mo said:
Well it formed the base of the experience. It coloured the IAP expeience forming it into a more rounded epothatic experience. The two together created an MDMA/MDA "like" experience there were huge rushes that resembled MDMA.
Well, well, well... interesting. Although, I suppose it makes some sense at a chemical level - both with the IAP (being a similar, if not analogous compound) and nutmeg (being an essential oil carrier of miniscule amounts of safrole).
p-mo said:
I would start shivering and these shivers would become HUGELY euphoric. I must have looked like a freak tho- sitting in front of the comp visibly shaking with a look of orgasm like euphoria. This however lasted for too long to create a peak as such. I think it also added to the sedation that I felt later on as well as some of the more physical effects (dry mouth in particular).
Any cramping, bodily aches? How was your liver the day after?
p-mo said:
I did not experience any "brain movies" as such though. I never really enjoyed shutting my eyes and looking at the CEV's. It WAS dreamy but only in a typical phenylthaliminy kinda way rather than a close the eyes and welcome to another universe.
Sounds lovely.
p-mo said:
like the avatar too- have noticed that more than a couple of peeps have stolen mine since I started using it!
You can't buy taste, dude. ;)
 
Well all my muscles did indeed feel tense after although no cramps to speak of (I guess my good diet and hydration had a bit to play here). Actually now u bring it up I did actually have a couple of iboprofens before I left to see the chiropractor to try and de-tense a bit for her. During the experience I was sooo tense- as I describe curling up in my bed this is presumably due to my muscles wanting to contract (or me wanting to contract my musles).

As for the liver I do quite regularly take milk-thistle and I think that I prolly took 750mg before starting and again the next day before going out. But I still did feel a bit sore in that area- but I would prolly blame the alcohol/nutmeg for this more than anything else. As a warning to everyone- make sure you are in 100% best physical condition that you can be before begining a drug trial. Good diet for several days before hand and good hydration are VERY important. Liver detoxifiers such as milk thistle, ALA and NAC are also good things to take both before and after as well as multi-vits and L-tyrosine.
 
p-mo said:
As for the liver I do quite regularly take milk-thistle and I think that I prolly took 750mg before starting and again the next day before going out. But I still did feel a bit sore in that area- but I would prolly blame the alcohol/nutmeg for this more than anything else. As a warning to everyone- make sure you are in 100% best physical condition that you can be before begining a drug trial. Good diet for several days before hand and good hydration are VERY important. Liver detoxifiers such as milk thistle, ALA and NAC are also good things to take both before and after as well as multi-vits and L-tyrosine.
Good advice.

High nutmeg doses are rather taxing on the liver (and potentially quite damaging)... hence why I've never bothered. Sounds like you took the necessary precautions. Thanks for posting.
 
Having a bit of experience with hepatoxic steriods I have some understanding of liver problems. I would suggest that everyone buy some liver detoxifiers. The liver is FANTASTIC at regenerating itself but if you put too much strain at anyone time you'll cause irreversable scarring. So take one before and after every heavy night out and it'll go a LONG way towards preventing damage.
 
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