Tryptamite
Bluelighter
8( Sorry for the long history.Apologies in advance if my questions arent clear, im really just looking for advice, experience and an opportunity to rant.
Ok. Ive had drug dependency problems from the get go, addictive personality. Basically just liked to be high so stayed that way through most of school.
When I was 19 I turned on to heroin and methadone for 4 solid years. I went to detox this year and left after day 1 of 0mg methadone. I stupidly took high doses of xanax everyday all day for almost 2 months to deal with the physical WDs of the methadone which only really started as I left the detox center.
Coming off the xanax without a taper by myself was a long arduous process. It took months to feel somewhat normal again.
When i did start to feel like myself again I started to dabble back with occasional heroin use. I managed this well for a while. Then circumstance changed and I found myself having to kick the H again. As it was only a few weeks of using the WDs were much easier but I still used benzos to dull the pain and help me sleep.
I figured I would have WDs from the benzos so I began to take Lyrica in high doses 600mg/day as a substitute. This worked wonderfully at first, but tolerance builds fast and I felt whatever effect i still got from these tablets after a week or two was not worth the cost or addiction. Trying to stop cold turkey did not work as I could not sleep or function. I slowly tapered down to 100mg/day around a month ago.
At the same time I picked up a heroin habit again. I did not miss 100mg Lyrica a day because heroin is a cure all for everything, so I made the best of a bad situation and stopped at 100mg instead of drawing out the taper any further.
So I am now 10 days over my most recent H binge (which lasted about a month or 5 weeks). From experience I think I can say I am over the H WDs. However I sleep very very poorly, am exhausted and have GI issues and ahedonia. This feels like benzo WD. I was 7 days on valium and zopiclone in quite high doses to overcome my most recent binge.
Perhaps the long diazepam half life and build up leaving my system is causing this. But can 7 days really re-trigger benzo WD?? Is there any way to tell how long they will last?
I just took 200mg Lyrica but do not plan on resuming lyrica maintenance. Perhaps feeling a little better now.
Basically if its going to be a few days of feeling uncomfortable I'll stick it out. If its any more than this Ill buy some valiums and do a taper from 10mg a day. What do you guys think?
I dont think im ready to stop playing with the heroin. But more than this the real issue is I dont feel "right" unless im "on" something.
I have very a unhelpful doctor. Everything is illicitly sourced. Perhaps I should be on a low dose of a benzo everyday? It would certainly improve my quality of life. Better Living Through Chemistry and all that.
I just dont like the idea of being dependent on a substance as this means WDs inevitably. I had an idea to cycle drug use targeting different receptors like valium (Gaba-A) day 1, phenibut (Gaba-B) day 2, Lyrica (calcium channels???) day 3, day 4 a break with nothing or something like L-theanine, rinse and repeat.
However Im not sure how viable this would be in the long term.
I do plan to investigate tianeptine in recommended doses as an anxiolotic and antidepressant.
Any response appreciated guys. And mods feel free to move to a more suitable forum if necessary. Thanks BL.
Ok. Ive had drug dependency problems from the get go, addictive personality. Basically just liked to be high so stayed that way through most of school.
When I was 19 I turned on to heroin and methadone for 4 solid years. I went to detox this year and left after day 1 of 0mg methadone. I stupidly took high doses of xanax everyday all day for almost 2 months to deal with the physical WDs of the methadone which only really started as I left the detox center.
Coming off the xanax without a taper by myself was a long arduous process. It took months to feel somewhat normal again.
When i did start to feel like myself again I started to dabble back with occasional heroin use. I managed this well for a while. Then circumstance changed and I found myself having to kick the H again. As it was only a few weeks of using the WDs were much easier but I still used benzos to dull the pain and help me sleep.
I figured I would have WDs from the benzos so I began to take Lyrica in high doses 600mg/day as a substitute. This worked wonderfully at first, but tolerance builds fast and I felt whatever effect i still got from these tablets after a week or two was not worth the cost or addiction. Trying to stop cold turkey did not work as I could not sleep or function. I slowly tapered down to 100mg/day around a month ago.
At the same time I picked up a heroin habit again. I did not miss 100mg Lyrica a day because heroin is a cure all for everything, so I made the best of a bad situation and stopped at 100mg instead of drawing out the taper any further.
So I am now 10 days over my most recent H binge (which lasted about a month or 5 weeks). From experience I think I can say I am over the H WDs. However I sleep very very poorly, am exhausted and have GI issues and ahedonia. This feels like benzo WD. I was 7 days on valium and zopiclone in quite high doses to overcome my most recent binge.
Perhaps the long diazepam half life and build up leaving my system is causing this. But can 7 days really re-trigger benzo WD?? Is there any way to tell how long they will last?
I just took 200mg Lyrica but do not plan on resuming lyrica maintenance. Perhaps feeling a little better now.
Basically if its going to be a few days of feeling uncomfortable I'll stick it out. If its any more than this Ill buy some valiums and do a taper from 10mg a day. What do you guys think?
I dont think im ready to stop playing with the heroin. But more than this the real issue is I dont feel "right" unless im "on" something.
I have very a unhelpful doctor. Everything is illicitly sourced. Perhaps I should be on a low dose of a benzo everyday? It would certainly improve my quality of life. Better Living Through Chemistry and all that.
I just dont like the idea of being dependent on a substance as this means WDs inevitably. I had an idea to cycle drug use targeting different receptors like valium (Gaba-A) day 1, phenibut (Gaba-B) day 2, Lyrica (calcium channels???) day 3, day 4 a break with nothing or something like L-theanine, rinse and repeat.
However Im not sure how viable this would be in the long term.
I do plan to investigate tianeptine in recommended doses as an anxiolotic and antidepressant.
Any response appreciated guys. And mods feel free to move to a more suitable forum if necessary. Thanks BL.
