Alcohol now someone told me that drugs and drinks dont mix, but...

[Lorne???]

nope im 28 and cant drink no more. stomach is pretty screwed up

this is coming a pretty interesting study as it were. but some questions went unanswered. now before you say it, yes i get the point, dont do it cause you shouldnt do it. but, i like an answer just so i can say "hey guys this is what folks i met came up with".

So if 15 mg wouldn't set off the vomiting or gag reflex, at what amount will? And again, would dissolving the pill minimize that vomiting effect? at what limit, will A: you start vomiting, and a OD could be or rather should be intermediate? and B:in the event you do end up starting to vomit, what can be down to either stop it?, if you want to make sure the pain killers do get rid of the headache.

im assuming the effects of this kinda OD would be the same as ODing on the drug itself without the drinks. just cause from what i'm getting out of what was said is that yes, booze will increase the effects of the pill, and its timing

Ok, first off OD'ing on alcohol and opioids simultaneously is completely different than opioids alone. It's also a lot easier to OD on the combination(it would take hundreds of mg's codeine to OD you(unless you are an ultra-rapid metabolizer via CYP2D6, making even that risky if you're inexperienced) yet 60mg with alcohol could kill an opioid naive person.

Secondly... WTF are you talking about? You taking codeine and alcohol is not an experiment. Drugs aren't a game.

At this point you're making no sense, and this all seems self-serving. I see no point in this, you're simple question has been answered.

And for the last time, alcohol doesn't make opioids any stronger, just DEADLIER.

And we can't tell you at what dose it will induce emesis, or exactly when you'll become a flaccid, itcy drowsy mess, and certainly not at what dose you OD. It is not a fucking mathematical equation, it's a process through which the drugs gradually induce there effects, and it's different for everyone.

 

[Lorne???]

I'm not sure if I wrote my original post correctly. I'm incredibly high at the moment - so much so that I'm not even sure how I'm typing this out - especially since I can't see straight. But lemme see if I can explain better what I meant.

I meant that everything is connected. Everything in the universe, everything in the world. The keyboard I'm typing this on, is also part of the universe. We all have one thing in common, we all 'belong' to this universe. Whether we ever find it possible to 'leave' this universe is something that may or may not happen. In fact, other universes may not even exist for all we know. But I do know one thing that everyone, all living things in this universe with the capacity to think such a thought.... the definition of home. Where is home?

That is something I know that everyone can answer (I count homeless people calling home, the city they were born in/choose to be in) I know one thing - there is always a place that people consider 'their home'. If someone were to ask you where you live, you would respond with something like "At Northwoords 12345 Avenue East, St. Louis, Missouri, 63006" - If you went to a different country - they would have no idea what your exact street you live on is called - so you just say "Oh, I'm from Missouri in the United States.

Now lets say you go visit an 'alien' world and you meet some nice ol' aliens there and they ask you where you're from - what would you tell them? A street number? A city? A state? A country? - No of course not, because they would have no idea what you're talking about, but it's quite possible they would know what planet you mean - so you would just simply say "I'm from planet Earth"

Anyways, I hope you get my point - that there is an explanation, but sometimes the exact explanation would is not something that could be understood, by anyone or anything - except you. So you say the first thing that you know, whatever is asking you 'Where are you from?" - even outside our own universe - you would still say, I'm from 'this' Universe. No matter what, you can never change the fact that you were born in this universe, and that's something that everything and nothing shares.

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Now lets put it this way, but shrink that same idea, that same concept, that same truth (because it is the truth - we are all from this universe and nothing can change that) and apply it to the human body. We are, our bodies. We didn't choose it - we didn't pick it, it just was and always will be 'your body'. But more of what I mean is - you are your body, and you are the creation of two things coming together to make one.

In that same sense and meaning, every 'system' in the body is connected to every other part through means of downstream messaging from nerve impulses generated anywhere in the brain, and some that are also controlled by your spinal cord. Basically, think of the neurotransmitter and, well... Actually think of the entire nervous system as a chain of dominoes that never ends, until you "end". One thing always leads to another.

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I woke up about a half-hour ago, brought my computer out of sleep, and noticed that I had this post (above) just sitting here. I have no idea what it's about, but here's a page worth of philosophical thoughts that no one will understand... enjoy

LOL should have known you we're high.

I actually agree with everything being interconnected, but that involves complex mechanisms we still don't fully grasp.

Sorry, I'm just sensitive to being called wrong ?

 

[Deadeyes]

Well ok deadlier in what way? The fact that you can choke on your own vomit? And no it's not self induced. Been researching for awhile.

 

[Tommyboy]

A friend of mineuse to pop the 40mg original OC's & use to drink 2 or 3 beers & he absolutely loved the combo but he also had a huge tolerance to alcohol & a moderate tolerance to opiates.

I use to tell him he shouldn't mix it but he never listened........luckily nothing ever happened.

As others have mentioned, never mix alcohol with apap/opiates or just plain Tylenol. I know a girl that will drink a few beers & pop 2 Tylenol's for her headache, not a good idea. She will even pop 10 Tylenol in 1 day for her pain as she is a waitress.. ...stay far away from mixing alcohol with Tylenol & other strong pain meds.

I had a friend that was the typical 'college beer drinker' and one night he popped an 80mg oxy while drinking like he usually did. He ended up passing out and snoring so loud that everyone left the room. The next morning my other friend went to say goodbye to him on his way out and found him dead. That's an extreme case though since oxy 80s were so potent and only one person had known he had taken it so nobody there thought anything of it when he passed out, and he was a little heavy so the snoring was no surprise.

 

[Deadeyes]

Holy shoot!!! Just 80mg... And a regular user, but how potent are we talking thou? 80mg in the 80's isn't the same as as today?

 

[fizzymk]

Whenever I hear someone say they like to combine all kinds of drugs with booze(especially opiates), I kind of look them strange, I guess the exception would be mixing booze with coke, thats a pretty good time. I have never had a good experience mixing these 2 things, I do recall my ex-GF and I planned a BIG night, we hit the casino, then got a nice hotel room, spent ALOT of money on pills back then, (roxis, and opanas), and kind of were just going to get really fucked up and stumble back to the hotel room, I was drinking bourbon, scotches thru the night, but was more into the pills...I could feel I was getting drunk, but kept popping pills thru out the night too, we had a great time, lost $1500. at the casino, but still had a baggie with alot of pills left.

I also noticed that night I lost all control and did not care what I took or how much, IDK if this was a effect of the mixture of booze and pills, but an hour before we were going to bed, I was truly ready to take 3 more Opana 40s, which probably would have killed me (with everything else I had that night)...I did not like feeling that 'out of it' tho, so I dont combine the 2 now

Actually I dont even crave alcohol at all, I have a bourbon or scotch if I go to a restaurant, but other than that, my DOC is opiates!

 

[Deadeyes]

yeah, doesnt sound like its a good idea seeing as most people either dont want to talk about it, or cant talk about it.

 

[neurotic]

Wtf man, what do you mean cant or dont want to talk about it? If you wanna have a beer with a t2 go ahead you aint gonna die, but you aint gonna get high either.

If you wanna get high on codeine, stick to the t2, why t f would you add alcohol to the mix? I agree with the poster who said alcohol goes well with coke but IMO not with opiates.

No one can tell you the exact doses for OD and puking

 

[sekio]

what a trainwreck of a thread.

This is being closed. Play it safe and listen to your body people Like has been mentioned before, nobody can give you a precise number where things get unsafe.