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jiffilube

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I recently started really thinking while on psychedelics. I never really used them to explore my mind, I mostly just did them for fun. In a space of about two months since them my view of everything has entirely changed. Ive realized how stupid so much of everything that people do is. Just little things, like dress codes and victimless crime laws and just everything. I see how terrible pollution is, and how terrible processed food is. I really see how fucked up the government is. It all seemed great before like, yay America but I realized how messed up it was, most governments. I was always athiests, but i see how terrible so many religions are now, how fake, yet i understand so much philosophy. Ive realized that any right and wrong is in the eyes of whoever beholds it, and that government restricts this pointlessly to an unbelievable degree. Possibly most of ill ive learned how stupid most of the public is. All of this seems so true to me, but is it or am I just losing it? please be serious?
 
Youre not losing it. Many people including myself have come to similar conclusions. Youre just opening your third eye.
 
Clarity is a wonderful thing. I think the best thing is to not care if other people have arrived at your same conclusions. It's a personal thing, there isn't a right and a wrong here. Unless your conclusion is to abuse the crap out of hallucinogens, in which case you are wrong.
 
no not at all, but i believe in using them. I really dont care what others think, i kind of feel really alone though. Like im the only person realizing this. Im in high school, a junior, and i have one friend who always seems to get what I say. Me and him have come to the same conclusions on so many things, but everyone looks at us like we're crazy, insane. We go to a private school, where pretty much everyone but us has a lot of money. We have to wear a suit and tie every day, and just follow some really stupid rules. But I think so radically different. Like, i feel like theres no point to manners at the dinner table, or any point to censorship. I dont know, but i like to think that what were realizing is how it all really is...
 
^ You are definitely not alone in your realizations. There are many others who understand these things and more. Your new mission: Find The Others :)
 
You're about as far away from being the only one as is possible. To be honest, i came to most of those conclusions before i met psyches, and since then my opinions have somewhat shifted on some of those subjects, for example politics and governance. Not to say that i necessarily agree with with the governance that exists, but a greater understanding of its reasons and inner workings and a greater acceptance of its necessity for instance.

Your opinions aren't static, you will grow as a person and events will occur in your life and it will likely if not definitely shift again, to some degree at least.

And i wasn't saying that you would abuse it, I'm just saying that's probably the only conclusion you could come to where the answer would be "you're wrong".
 
I wish we could find more people like us. Where we live everyone else is so different, we say stuff like this and they call us insane. Neither of us have a license so we cant really go anywhere to meet people who think the same as we do.. But I'm really glad to hear that there really are other people who have come to these conclusions :)
 
Yeah I haven't been with Bluelight too long, but I have already seen a couple discussions like yours. I started using psychedelics my junior year in high school and felt the same as you. I felt very lonely and it eventually led to a depression. Don't let that happen to you! I believe there are millions like you that are in this world. Try finding a psychedelic oriented rave if you want to meet some new people that are likely to think along the same lines as you.
 
Choose your fellow psyconauts with a grain of salt though. There are bad eggs. They can be quite convincing. This can lead to bad consequences.
 
Eldaren; elaborate? And i would love to go to a rave or some shows or something but theres nothing close I live in rural PA and i have no way to really get anywhere
 
Well as you feel a bit isolated now, sometimes grasping for acceptance from people you feel have the same view as you leads you to make decisions that you know are wrong, or at least have an inkling that you shouldn't. And remember, people know how to use other people, especially if you spill your guts and they decide to just agree with you. It happens.

Not that you should be paranoid, just keep an open mind and when the little voice in your head says no, take it into proper consideration. Also, if people are pushy with hallucinogens, get rid of them. Nobody needs that.
 
I promise... this is but the start.

I am very happy for you to open up past what you have known before... it doesn't really matter if we are wrong or if we are right more so than the next guy... it all goes back to the point of perception...

either way, we can all band together and unite to do better for the world, regardless of how we feel we should do that. :)
 
i actually started totally on my own, i wanted to see what it was really like. I see what you are saying, but i always believe what i believe and am willing to argue it with someone, even if i want their acceptance. i really try to be careful too
 
If they argue with you, they're probably going to be a good egg. They have a perception, as do you. They probably won't intertwine perfectly, there'll be hits and misses. the discussion is part of the learning experience. If they're just listening and agreeing with you, it's likely they just want to get free drugs off you because you want someone else to view it like you.
 
jiffilube said:
I recently started really thinking while on psychedelics. I never really used them to explore my mind, I mostly just did them for fun. In a space of about two months since them my view of everything has entirely changed. Ive realized how stupid so much of everything that people do is. Just little things, like dress codes and victimless crime laws and just everything. I see how terrible pollution is, and how terrible processed food is. I really see how fucked up the government is. It all seemed great before like, yay America but I realized how messed up it was, most governments. I was always athiests, but i see how terrible so many religions are now, how fake, yet i understand so much philosophy. Ive realized that any right and wrong is in the eyes of whoever beholds it, and that government restricts this pointlessly to an unbelievable degree. Possibly most of ill ive learned how stupid most of the public is. All of this seems so true to me, but is it or am I just losing it? please be serious?
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Don't fear- you are right. However, try and temper these thoughts with ackowledgement that, while nothing makes sense, that thought in itself actually adds some sense to this madness. Instead of getting worried about the pettiness of life and law and society, break out and revel in your freedom :)

Also- try reading the Book of Tao; essentially, that book emphasises that nothing, really, ever needs to concern you, as you don't concern it, and even if you are concerned, it won;t change the situation you face- the only good thing that Dr Leary said was "Tune in, turn on, drop out"- but he forgot to add "drop back in again when turned on and tuned out- its great!!!"...:D You are safe in this world of form, thats for sure <3
 
This is normal.

Your mind will just fall back into our social system in about 2 weeks.

Thinking is torture, for me personally..
Don't think too much.
 
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