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  • Trip Reports Moderator: Cheshire_Kat

Not LSD - Experienced - This totally sucks

Just because this guy's dealer personally feels mushrooms are more visual, that doesn't say anything about the quality of his LSD.

I disagree, twenty hits of acid of acid would blow away any mushrooms experience I've ever had, as far as intensity of the visuals are concerned.

Having never taken a threshold dose of LSD, Komodo, how can you even begin to guess what it would feel like for you?

Actually, I have. I wasn't buzzing like this for so long.

Folks, LSD is like any other psychedelic drug, you can have a great time with it or it can be hell, and usually it's somewhere in between.

No offense, but did you even read my post? The problem wasn't being in hell, it's that we were bored out of our skulls.

BD and Coolio: I can understand your skeptism, but seriously every piece of information we have points to it being 5-meo-AMT. Also, half a tab is reportably strong enough to break threshold, so if we say that half a tab is 20ug LSD, then we took 100 ug (two and a half hits) LSD... which DEFINITELY should have resulted in more pronounced visual effects, and / or at least SOME kind of mental stimulation.
 
just write it as a bad deal, and go fucking beat the shit out of him, thats what i do :D
 
(Sounds like weak LSD to me!!!)

Was there any taste?

I have no experience with 5-meo-amt, but I do know that many tryptamines have a strong foul chemical taste that is easily detectable in milligram amounts. If there was no taste and no real body load, I'd stay it was weak LSD.
 
evlove said:
I do know that many tryptamines have a strong foul chemical taste that is easily detectable in milligram amounts.

haha not to try to make what you said obsolete but acid is ingested by micrograms not milligrams. I figure you know that though.
 
I was referring to 5-MeO-AMT in that comment, figuring that if it was an active dose of 5-MeO-AMT (>~3 mg) it would probably have a bitter taste if you put it on the tongue. For the most part a weak dose of LSD would be tasteless.
 
The tabs I took had a bitter taste but not extremely bitter, there was a kind of weird sweet after taste, this bloke I know has bought a whole vile of what I think is the same stuff aswell, same taste, I've only had a few drops which didn't seem to be enough to feel much effects, I was on alot of stuff at the time tho. I personally don't think you would confuse a low dose of LSD for anything else i've had lots of weak acid experiences in my time and this was nothing like it :\
 
Can you please just answer whether or not there was a foul taste to the blotter?
 
damn i had almost the exact same experience except on sugar cubes. it definitley seemed what would be a low dose of acid (having never tried acid before) and i kept expecting the trip to get more intense but it didnt. also sleeping was definitley a problem and i was starting to get worried about what i took. judging by a lot of the posts, it seems like there is some new chemical going around...who knows how safe it is?
 
Komodo Rogue said:
Well first of all, you guys are right, I won't turn him in... as much as I dislike him, there's something just "wrong" about it.

Karmatic justice will be done, whether you see it or not. If you had ratted on him, the same would have happened to you.

Based on what I've read here (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5me...amt_info2.shtml) on Erowid, doesn't it at least seem plausible that it wasn't LSD?

Funny, this reminds me of that trip report ages ago, about those bermuda triangles going around, and nobody believed it could be LSD, yet the GC/MS test proved it so. If you didn't test the product, then you'll never ever know. Everything here on in is just speculation :\
 
What kinds of potential health implications might there be if it's not LSD? I'm considering trying something that sounds like what you're describing here, even if it's not that hard a trip. I just don't want to end up in the hospital or something.
 
I agree that it is majoryl fucked he ripped you off, but if you turn him into the cops you become the bigger asshole. Grow some balls and go kick his ass, but never, ever bring the pigs into the situation. That is like betraying the whole community you embrace.
 
chances are he doesn't even know what hes selling, best thing to do would be to buy some more and see if you can UV test it or something.
 
That is like betraying the whole community you embrace.

Hey, I'm not going to turn him in because in retrospect, it's an asshole thing to do. But shitty dealers who rip people off and spread misinformation aren't part of a community I embrace.
 
Don't let a bad experience find a way to stick inside you like this...let it go. Karma will handle the rest. Just spread the word that the guy is bunk. That or sell him some oregeno back.
 
I just want to say; Considering the potency of LSD today, it is extreamly week per hit! In most cases.

5-MEO-AMT is now found on the streets; sold as LSD! 5-meo-amt is very potent and may Over Dose You!

Because of the Very Different potencies of LSD placed on a single blotter hit; the fact that it may not be LSD but 5-meo-amt, bob, doi etc...

I highly suggest that ppl only take ONE DOSE, if you are ABSOLUTELY not sure its LSD. Never tust a new source!

Back in the day we would take 2 or 3 hits at a time, before any one knew what RC's were. Now that they are around and because of that, i would never take more then 2 hits of anything, unless i absolutely know my sorce!
Thinking smart.
 
expecting to trip off 1 tab was dumb - a second hours later also not cleva due to tolerance - unless u take a load mor - I c nothing that suggests this is 5meoamt at all really - part from that u didnt lik it - if u had a good dose 5meo-amt ud probly enjoy it - low dose cid sucks anyhow - justboring & yeah will make it total imposible to sleep

you bought 10 & took 2 (x4) so u got 2 left yeah? do a test on them wif an e kit - otherwise ut just guess work

most cid is just piss weak
 
Acid is soooo much more incredibly visual tham shrooms for me even off one hit of good cid, and i have eaten up to 7 grams dried
 
i agree with salviamind. you fucked it up for yourself. 1 hit of even decent blotter, these days, wont take you very far, should have taken 2 to start :/. also, if the guy said he took 20 hits, that should have told you it was weak right there. 20 hits is a bit excessive for legit stuff, when you could just as easily take 10 and get destroyed. as for this 5-meo mumbo jumbo, i hope it fades with the strychnine myth--until i see some lab results, i will see blotter as fake, old, or fresh. the unnecessary paranoia stemming from this theory seems to be almost as dangerous as actually dropping this supposedly layed RC.
 
1 hit of even decent blotter, these days, wont take you very far, should have taken 2 to start

Hmm. Well like I *already* said, half a hit was enough to break threshold, and the dealer suggested only taking *one* hit, so to say that "you fucked it up for yourself" by not taking two at once is not only insulting but incorrect.

as for this 5-meo mumbo jumbo, i hope it fades with the strychnine myth

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_amt/5meo_amt_info2.shtml

It's not a myth. I don't know how prevalent "RCs" are sold in LSD style blotter, but nevertheless, it does happen.

I suppose that I'm just going to have to just respecfully disagree with those who believe it was weak LSD (I'm open to the idea, but I'm still leaning towards 5-meo-AMT). But to you people, is there any reason you can find that suggests that it's NOT something else?
 
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