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Misc nonbenzodiazepine hypnotics - why they stop working after awhile?

Good for you slice! That's the spirit. There are always options left to be chosen, and you made a good choice.
 
z drugs suck after about a month IME but i like ambien to just get high on but for long term sleep problems the only thing that has helped me is zyprexa
 
I've taken all the z-drugs and they all kinda suck after a week of use, IMO. tolerance builds insanely fast. and lunesta just sucked from night 1.

don't take anti-psychotics to sleep. they'll cause so much weight gain and make you really groggy in the morning.

the best drug for sleep is triazolam, but it's highly addictive and docs don't really give it out. aside from that specific benzo, I think TRAZODONE is by far more superior than ANY z-drug and any benzo, minus triazolam. and tolerance doesn't build to trazodone. it's non scheduled so just ask your psych for a month's supply and see how you like it. i take 50 mgs a night and have been for over half a year and haven't had to increase my dose at all. I can eat 10 mg of xanax and not be sleepy, but if i take 100 mg of trazodone i'm absolutely knocked on my ass
 
GABAking said:
I've taken all the z-drugs and they all kinda suck after a week of use, IMO. tolerance builds insanely fast. and lunesta just sucked from night 1.

don't take anti-psychotics to sleep. they'll cause so much weight gain and make you really groggy in the morning.

the best drug for sleep is triazolam, but it's highly addictive and docs don't really give it out. aside from that specific benzo, I think TRAZODONE is by far more superior than ANY z-drug and any benzo, minus triazolam. and tolerance doesn't build to trazodone. it's non scheduled so just ask your psych for a month's supply and see how you like it. i take 50 mgs a night and have been for over half a year and haven't had to increase my dose at all. I can eat 10 mg of xanax and not be sleepy, but if i take 100 mg of trazodone i'm absolutely knocked on my ass
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Woah! My psych suggested this too and I might try this route as my pain is just half assed controlled and Zolpidem aint cutting it anymore :/
 
Do you think I should apply? I want to make more posts first, show my dedication and the quality of my info. I am quite knowledgeable and resourceful. I'm one of those science and math people that people get jealous of in school. I remember almost everything.

I would enjoy a career like this.

Kudos to you Tricomb. I had no idea! You must love life. I already love bluelight, and I can't stop using it. I would love to be paid for it. I'll wait till I can build a rep.
 
Haha, there are open modspots in other forums just not Other Drugs right now.
intelligentmind said:
I don't understand. If Etizolam is a Thienodiazepine then why is Olanzapine classed as an anti psychotic & not a Thienodiazapine?
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Olanzepine is a thienodiazepine, but for whatever reason not understood by me, it has a different mechanism of action. Therefore I am suspicious of thienodiazepines, probably for no reason, but I have no need or desire to try etizolam or any thienodiazepines.
 
I didn't like the other sections with available spots, I'll only apply for places where my knowledge is best put to use. I was sad to see that the OD position had been filled.
 
tricomb said:
Haha, there are open modspots in other forums just not Other Drugs right now.


Olanzepine is a thienodiazepine, but for whatever reason not understood by me, it has a different mechanism of action. Therefore I am suspicious of thienodiazepines, probably for no reason, but I have no need or desire to try etizolam or any thienodiazepines.
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I just took my medical shelf exam in behaviroal science a few months ago...let's see what i can remember

olanzepine is an anti-psychotic, second generation (also called atypical)...this class of drugs antagonize dopamine receptors (mainly D2) as well as 5HT2 receptors (serotonin)...typical antipsychotics like haloperidol only affect the D2 receptor (thus they only treat the positive symptoms of schizophrenia...atypicals treat positive and negative symptoms, thus are first line treatment)

ive never taken, nor do i ever want to take, etizolam but from what i've read it binds to GABA receptors like benzos. but it also increases prolactin levels like antipsychotics....so basically it's like a benzo, but it's gonna cause gynecomastia. I'll stick with my trusted xanax and klonopin. i dont want male boobs
 
GABAking said:
it's gonna cause gynecomastia. i dont want male boobs
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Is there any evidence to suggest that elevated prolactin levels cause gynecomastia? I haven't found any (aside from speculation in steroid forums). Also who knows how much etizolam actually elevates prolactin, and one would have to be taking etiz chronically for it to really matter. Many many many drugs affect hormone levels.
 
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