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Non-raving Bluelighters...

candyflip

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This is a seriously OLD thread (1999):

Non-raving Bluelighters

Great discussion from back in the days when some people would write a 1000 word post without even thinking about it (so much time on our hands! Haaaa!) :) The audience was a lot smaller and more attentive too, I suppose.

Anybody got any modern day opinions on this subject now?
 
I enjoy going to parties and go now and then, i also like the music. But, i wouldn't consider myself a raver.

Ravers are druggies ;)
 
i think it all depends on what you classify as raving or not raving. whats a rave club and whats not? where do you draw the line between going out to clubs and being a raver? this is a topic i often ponder so im glad somethings been posted im interested to see what others opinions are on this.

i think another dificulty is that we rarely use the 'r' word now and this leads to us being less willing to classify ourselves(a not altogether bad thing dont you think?).

i think i go out a lot and get dressed up for the bigger events and some club nights but id me more inclined to say that i party a lot rather than im a raver especially because im not frequenting bass or kandy every week. but then others would say that i am because of things like sheer volume of nights i go out, musical tastes, phat pants, etc.... i guess like so much else these things are relative.

fuck i dunno im just confused now... i think a lot of it comes down to fashion... its just not a popular word at the moment



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Prom... theres a name i havent seen in a long time... and missed throughtout.
 
I haven't been to a "rave" for close to 18 months. Hell, the closest I get to "partying" is having scat people at my house, or going to the pub for a beer.

I'm still at bluelight because there's some intelligent thought and discussion here and when I'm at home with a small, loud child all day, it's as close to adult conversation as I come ;)
 
I got to raves, therefore I'm a raver. Simple as that.

I'm 29 and have never gone to raves because of the drug scene. I've done plenty of drugs before I was in the scene, and I don't need to goto a rave to do drugs. I go for other reasons, the music, the atmosphere, the vibe, the people, to go out and dance till I'm ready to collapse, to sit back and watch the array of people around me, basically, to go out and have fun.
 
From my perspective of partying, there's a very clear distinction between ravers and clubbers. I meet lots of people who I see regularly in clubs who I never see at big parties, mostly because they're older and a bit over it. Then there are people who I see at big parties, but never in clubs. I guess I would call them ravers, even though they might not dress in an appropriate manner.

Then there's people like me who you see at everything, we're just called 'drug pigs'. (Uhh?? There's a Dee-Jay? What's that?) =D

I think a majority of Bluelighters are ravers, including those who go to doofs, this board just seems to attract them, nothing wrong with that. Trance fans come here, other music fans are usually found around inthemix.com.au or TheScene.com.au. There's also a smaller minority of Bluelighters who aren't into the electronic music scene specifically at all; for example, those into the gay scene, the commercial club scene, the goth/punk/industrial scene or the rock/pub/live band scene.

I guess what I like about BL is the only thing you can assume about other BL'ers is that they like drugs.
 
I'll read that thread later but I just wanted to put my hand up and say (like everyone doesn't *already* know 8) )....


Meeeeeeeeeee !!!


Non-raver here. Completly textbook non-raver. Never been to one, have probably 10-15% desire to ever do so, and probably go to a club maybe once, twice a year at most. Yet I take E quite regularly.

I dropped my first E in a pub, and since then have mostly done it at house parties, pubs, anniversaries, weddings, birthdays, seeing live bands, outside in nature, and in my own home sweet home. I still consider any techno music 'doof doof' (sorry).

I like Skid Row, Motley Crue, Pearl Jam, Nirvana and various really cheesy 'mainstream' alternative rock acts. You wouldn't catch me dead wearing rave gear. Long live cock rock.

In fact my best time ever taking pills was at a KISS concert. How non- raver can you get ;)

And believe me, there's plenty more like me out there...... just not on this board.

< disclaimer: I still love all of ya! >
 
I wouldn't classify myself as a raver.

I do go to the occasional big party- eg welcome 2003, TT and the odd transmission, but you will more often find me at a breaks party or a club in the breaks room.

I guess one of the primary reasons I wouldn't classify myself as a raver, is because I don't particularly appreciate the music that is classified as rave music- trance, happy hard and all that are OK, but you will more that likely find me in the chillout area where they're playing someting a little more funky.

I enjoy the vibe at raves, don't get me wrong... but there are things that I would rather spend my money on to have a good time =D
 
I think the term 'rave' has pretty much died since this thread was written 4 years ago. Now it only seems to be used by parents ("you're off to one ofthose raves, are you?!"), the media and the occasional American.

Perhaps the more modern title for this thread would be "Non-Doofing Bluelighter"?
 
candyflip said:
Perhaps the more modern title for this thread would be "Non-Doofing Bluelighter"?
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I think these 'Parties' we talk about are more classified by the type of music they provide now.

I like breaks- so i go to breaks events.
My boyfriends likes trance- so he goes to trance events.
My Good friend likes Happy hard- so she goes to Happy hard parties.

I think you're right about the term "rave". It has gradually over the last few years been used looser and looser.

Does the "rave" as we used to know it still exist?
 
Wow, just read that original thread - didn't some people get their panties in a bunch! :D

As for the 'raver' definition; perhaps I am just lurking in a territory I'm completely uneducated in, but I thought:

Raver (in this thread's context) = someone who listens to techno music of any genre, who goes to clubs to listen to that music, or goes to raves to listen to that music. (not anything about dress style, lifestyle,etc)

Non-raver = those into other, completely different types of music. ie. blues, jazz, rock, heavy metal, classical.

? ^^ perhaps that definition is way too broad. But I didn't think we were debating different types of music preference within the rave scene itself, more so just trying to find out who is not into it *whatsoever*. Personally, that's the more interesting topic for me. I'm gonna estimate the percentage of the 2nd group on bluelight might be, around 5% perhaps? Maybe 10% tops?
 
SLM: Skid Row!!! cmon your taste cant be THAT bad!!! ;) cock rock is just so painful.. how do they get into those jeans???????

im a non-raver. dont listen to electro music.. been to a total of 2 raves and spent most of the night wandering pretty bored. i like rock music. i like lyrics that are more than "reach for the stars". i like emotion in my music. i have been told there are these things in electo, or emotion at least, but i certainly cant find it *shrugs*. so i like a wide variety of music, anything from Sigur Ros, Bjork, Tool, Pantera (tho rarely nowadays) NIN, Modest Mouse, etc etc etc the list is of course pretty endless :).... but Skid Row... i mean cmon :-P
 
*claps!!!*
I BELONG!!!!!!!!!!
:D

i started posting here when i was one of those dumb 16y/o girls going to all ages raves in her spare time (=a lot of spare time when you're 16)
then i realised i only liked them because i was off my tits most of the time, so i gave up the parties and kept up the drugs.
shit my priorities are terrible.

like slm, i've had more fun getting on at with friends and at concerts
(haha morbid tales metal fest, it was so wrong it was right)
:):)
 
I don't think that anyone could enjoy extacy and not like raves, the rave term now is very loose but if you enjoy pilling and dancing to music then your in my words a raver.
 
The term raver may be very broad, but I think your definition of a raver doofhard is way too broad.

IMO I wouldn't even call someone that only took pills at somewhere like Q Bar and at a home environment a raver, but I guess that's purely my opinion.
 
the fundamental reasons for people raving were to enjoy being a little different from mainstream society...

they came to dance, to enjoy drugs, some to enjoy the music, to meet people, to have a good time and to express who they are...

i'm sure all of us are aware of the basic fundamentals of why bluelight exists, and as to why it has become so popular...

it is, in itself, a symbol of everything that "raving" symbolised...

so i say, show me a non-raving bluelighter, and i'll show you a nazi who loves jews*

*sorry to be so harsh in my comparison, but it was the best idea i could come up with at the time... but i hope u get my drift... =D
 
^^^^^^
Sorry Muzby, I don't concur.

The fundamental reason I came to 'raving' (and I have never been a 'raver', as I don't agree with the definitions some of you have) was to enjoy myself with a new tool (drugs). The reason I came to BL was to share those new experiences (then) and, in search of good conversation and a decent argument with like-minded people who may, or may not, still take drugs (now).

Just because you are a BL, doesn't make you a raver, as has been demonstarted many times. SLM, Miss Apple and myself (for example) are definitely NOT ravers. We are not 'jew loving nazis' either! (think harder on your analogies next time mate, that was pretty poor). :|
 
*scracthes head* ok well where do i fit in?

i have been to raves... at one point of my life i loved going to them *lol* as does anyone who likes them...

but if you were to ask me now if i had the choice of going to a rave or going to 'drop' at a pub and have a few drinks and listen to non electronic music it would be the first choice...the pub =D

everyone gets over the rave stage of the life...

for me it wwent in this process..

my music tastes change.
i went back to how i was before getting into chems...
so my friends changed.
my interests changed.
my life started to head off in a different direction...

i am totally over big and any form of event...the occassional one is good...i havent been to a huge event since NYE last year...and a small club i went to Easter in sydney.

my music tatstes have changed from doof doof hard nrg and hhcore to more Marilyn Manson, Bjork, A Perfect Circle, Queens Of The Stone Age, Modest Mouse, Augie March, Portishead, Tool and some good old classics. i still like a dose of good old psy trance everynoe and then...

i use to go to events and raves for the MUSIC, cause that was what it was all about and for the people and the atmosphere...thats what it all was all about... but now give me a couch and a cosy atmosphere and i am happy :)

i dont take chems much anymore...havent dropped a pill in nearlly three quarters of a year =D ocassionaly have a speed or something like acid but havent in quite a while now.

being involved with BL certainly doesnt mean u have to be a raver...a fair vast magority of Bler's are but there are those out there like myself,SLM, candyflip, Miss Apples and a few OLD SKOOL BL's i still see on a regular basis in the comfort of their own homes over a cup off coffee. We much prefer that than having our ears bleed 8) ;)

i have very fond memories of my raving times and i will always cherish them...i guess i just moved on and got over it alot quicker than my friends eh?

*shrugs*
 
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